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Seems to be a lot of discussion about big men and PGs, but how about drafting a long wing?
Drafting a Wing Forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
Methinks he's too flawed. I don't think he could play defense at the pro level. But I think a 2nd round flier wouldn't be so bad. At that point, though, I'd prefer Ponkrashov. But that's my hobby horse...Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I like Josh Duncan (Xavier - 6'9" ~230). Although he can step out and shoot it, he seems to play more like a PF, so he probably won't fit. But if he can show some quickness on the defensive end, his size will be great against the stronger SFs like James and Anthony, and shooting PFs like Dirk.
We need to go all out to get Batum
from all accounts Batum won't be available when we pick (29th i hope?). I don't think we can package anything to move up that many slots.
And even if we could, the FO hasn't shown much willingness to do that in the past.
Chad Ford mentioned in his chat today that he expects Batum to drop to the late first round. Though I wouldn't call him the most credible source on foreign prospects.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
International prospects the world over are on the slide. The Darko knee jerk might have relaxed if not for Andrea Bargnani, whose suckage casts a shadow over the rest of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor
I say good for the Spurs. Maybe they can get Batum and Casspi, in that order, 1, 2. Odds are strong that one of the two will develop into a servicable wing. This is why Holt owns the Toros, right?
Perhaps this is the year to pick up another late first/early second and take a flier on a sliding player or two, such as the aforementioned or someone like Bill Walker or Brandon Rush. I know four picks would be a lot, but given the team's age and unique relationship to Austin, why not?
I wonder if Bonner could bring a pair of 2nd round picks?
Darko and Bargs have nothing to do with this year's international draft class, which just isn't that great.
Batum will not slide all the way to the Spurs.
Which two picks would the Spurs give up? 2008, 2009?Quote:
Originally Posted by tav1
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Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Ford had Dumars on his podcast a few months back and Joe D said just the opposite--that recent international draft pick failures had given many of the GMs in the league cold feet. They'd rather wait and see on the internationals and pick 'em up later as free agents.
Pretty handy to say, since the current generation is considered tapped out.Quote:
Originally Posted by tav1
Casspi : 18 points and 10 rebounds in Euroleague quarter final.
Not bad for a 19 years old player. :smokin
If Spurs want to move up or to get another pick, their best assets are Splitter, Mahinmi or cash.
I think Spurs are quite high on Mahinmi and Splitter, so cash is Spurs best asset.
Throwing cash isn't Spurs way but Holt could be ready to do that given that Spurs payroll will be about $10M lower next year than this year.
With $3M in cash, Spurs could get another late first/early.
With $3M in cash and their pick, Spurs could move up in the early 20's.
Goran Dragič is playing great lately in Adriatic league Playoffs...
Other teams see the Spurs' run coming to a close, but will still be unlikely to trade draft picks to them. And do you truly think the Spurs would pay $3 million for an untested rookie, even before his salary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
The Spurs supposedly have tried to trade up every year in the draft and never have. Teams are usually never likely to trade down late in the draft, even for several places. They have their short lists of players and stick by those instead. A drop of five places, from 23 to 28, can mean their pet guy is gone. If the Spurs couldn't trade up using Scola last year, they're not moving up this year.
Most likely they have their 2 or 3 guys they like and if those guys drop off the board, they'll draft for someone else and trade out of the first round. Last year they liked Splitter and Daequan Cook; if both were gone (one was), they would have dumped the pick.
Spurs cap situation is quite different next year. If they like a player, i can see them spending $3M to get his rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
It depends on the situation of the other team. A rebuilding team or an ECF team, has no serious reason to avoid a trade with Spurs. And it's not like the team trade the first overall pick to Spurs.
Agree on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Trading up almost never happen.
I'm just saying that if Spurs want to trade up their best assets to do it is cash.
I'd be stunned to see the Spurs spend money to buy up or buy a draft pick, especially since they'd need that money to sell Bonner's contract to someone. I could see them make a push if Batum falls, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
I believe Minnesota has the 1st and 3rd picks in the second round. I wonder if a 2 for 2 pick swap could be done there, as someone mentioned - our first and one second for those two. I see the Spurs wanting to get away from guaranteed salary to get themselves off the hook.
Draftexpress reports that a rule change has come into effect: underclassmen can be sponsored to travel to NBA sites for workouts. Before, they were on the hook for expenses, which made it hard for a lot of athletes to get themselves seen. DX suggests this will lead to more underclassmen testing the waters, with the benefit of getting seen by teams who want to see them. The impact will be on seniors, who cannot test the water and face increased crowding for spots and attention.
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Originally Posted by Bruno
I think the Suns have posted their pick on ebay. I wonder if the Blazers have multiple picks this year--if so, they might be willing to sell. I like your thinking here Bruno.
Phoenix gets Atlanta's first round pick this year from the Joe Johnson trade. It will be late lottery, but most assuredly they'll use it. They most assuredly would not let the Spurs have it, if they wanted to let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by tav1
Portland has multiple 2nd round picks, but their first rounder is about #13, which they would not sell outright. They might sell 2nd rounders or package them for something else.
So... try again.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Point taken. But the Atlanta pick will not be a lottery pick. Atlanta is in the playoffs. They'll pick 14 or 15.
I need to check the standings. For some reason both nbadraft and DX list it as a lottery pick. Sucks to be Phoenix, actually. The one year Atlanta is any good, they got their pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by tav1
I'd love for Holt to open his checkbook and buy a ticket to get Batum, but I doubt it happens on either end.
Atlanta being out of the lottery and teams like Golden State and Portland being in is the best argument for reformatting the playoffs. If it were simply the best 16 teams then this wouldn't be a problem. The current system will actually help the Western conference become better. I'll laugh for a month if a team like Portland winds up with a top 5 pick. And then I'll cry when I start to project their line up going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I suggested Caspi as a second round pick before. He's very young and raw, but has some talent and is projected as a long SF I think so he wouldn't be competing against Splitter or Ian in the organization.
Not that competition within the org based on talent is a bad thing.