2008 NBA All-Star Balloting Third Returns Announced

http://www.nba.com//news/returns_080103.html

2008 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING EASTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: Kevin Garnett (Bos) 1,527,963; LeBron James (Clev) 1,294,019; Chris Bosh (Tor) 411,313; Paul Pierce (Bos) 352,243; Yi Jianlian (Mil) 291,447; Caron Butler (Was) 187,396; Hedo Turkoglu (Orl) 172,720; Tayshaun Prince (Det) 155,502; Josh Smith (Atl) 143,518; Rashard Lewis (Orl) 143,118.

Guards: Dwyane Wade (Mia) 1,019,582; Jason Kidd (NJ) 743,683; Ray Allen (Bos) 617,123; Vince Carter (NJ) 612,543; Gilbert Arenas (Was) 511,763; Chauncey Billups (Det) 331,872; Michael Redd (Mil) 221,777; Richard Hamilton (Det) 163,250; Joe Johnson (Atl) 149,367; Andre Iguodala (Phi) 140, 292.

Centers: Dwight Howard (Orl) 1,260,987; Shaquille O'Neal (Mia) 609,597; Rasheed Wallace (Det) 162,792; Ben Wallace (Chi) 146,332; Andrew Bogut (Mil) 132,469; Jermaine O’Neal (Ind) 120,690; Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Clev) 77,350; Emeka Okafor (Cha) 74,269; Zaza Pachulia (Atl) 58,430; Eddy Curry (NY) 53,084.

2008 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING WESTERN CONFERENCE

Forwards: Tim Duncan (SA) 1,049,641; Carmelo Anthony (Den) 1,029,335; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 830,970; Carlos Boozer (Utah) 347,899; Shane Battier (Hou) 297,672; Shawn Marion (Pho) 296,917; Josh Howard (Dal) 285,580; Luis Scola (Hou) 279,970; Kevin Durant (Sea) 242,953; Grant Hill (Pho) 209,057.

Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,234,111; Tracy McGrady (Hou) 809,395; Allen Iverson (Den) 694,611; Steve Nash (Pho) 684,813; Manu Ginobili (SA) 360,408; Tony Parker (SA) 316,541; Chris Paul (NO) 261,169; Baron Davis (GS) 247,187; Jason Terry (Dal) 218,052; Jerry Stackhouse (Dal) 192,017.

Centers: Yao Ming (Hou) 1,077,244; Amaré Stoudemire (Pho) 583,249; Marcus Camby (Den) 221,527; Erick Dampier (Dal) 184,689; Pau Gasol (Mem) 139,254; Mehmet Okur (Utah) 112,434; Tyson Chandler (NO) 98,424; LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 93,043; Chris Kaman (LAC) 83,516; Andris Biedrins (GS) 81,611.

Nice to see Duncan take first place.
The most decorated active player in the league should start.

When he was listed as a center I was okay with him not starting but now that it's fixed I'm happy to see him get the votes.

Wasn't Tim behind someone in the last returns?

behind Melo

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Luis Scola (Hou) 279,970

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wtf?

Man, Howard+Garnett+LeBron is going to be a nasty starting frontcourt for the East.

LMAO if Scola passes up J-HO.

Scola in front of Durant and Hill is the most hilarious thing I've ever read.

Kaman in last place is a travesty

Strange, I remember when Grant Hill used to get voted in (or close) when he was out full seasons with injuries. Now he's having a near-All Star calibur year and he's a distant 10th.

Duncan has almost as many votes as Yao? Sounds like China's basketball fans are more sophisticated than many give them credit for.

Shane Battier in 5th says otherwise

:lol

Yeah, I wonder how they are liking that Rudy Gay for Shane trade in Houston now.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...onald_d_8.html

Jeff McDonald: Duncan surging in All-Star voting

DENVER -- The Spurs' Tim Duncan leads all Western Conference forwards in All-Star voting, according to the latest round of results released by league Thursday.

Duncan has drawn in 1,049,641 votes, and leads the second-place forward -- Denver's Carmelo Anthony -- by 20,306. More importantly for Duncan's bid to start his ninth consecutive All-Star game, he leads the No. 3 forward -- Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki -- by 218,617 votes.

The top two forwards at the end of the voting earn starting nods.

Duncan isn't drawing badly at all, considering he is listed as a center on the paper ballots. (After a modicum of controversy, he was moved back to his traditional power forward slot for on-line balloting).

As for the other prominent Spurs, Manu Ginobili (360,408 votes) and Tony Parker (316,541) are ranked fifth and sixth among Western Conference guards.

lmao. Battier

TWA.

I still contend that Duncan's losing a ton of votes because of the listing on the paper ballots. That he's leading despite that is really a pleasant surprise.

It looks really good for Duncan. Dirk is more than 200,000 vote behind him.
Right now, I don't see coaches selecting Ginobili or Parker. Both have had a quite bad December month and there are too much quality guards in the western conference.

Kidd
Wade
LeBron
Garnett
Howard

DAMN...

Does Duncan get those Center votes added to his PF votes?

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Does Duncan get those Center votes added to his PF votes?

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Yes.

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/duncan_ballot.html

Duncan Moved to Forward on NBA All-Star Ballot

NEW YORK, Nov. 21 (AP) -- The NBA shifted Tim Duncan from center to forward on its All-Star ballot on Wednesday, boosting the San Antonio player's chances of making his ninth consecutive start.

The seven-member media panel that selected the players for the original ballot had Duncan as a center, even though he has always been listed as a forward. He was voted to start for the Western Conference each of the last eight seasons, but that streak would have been in jeopardy if he was a center.

Houston center Yao Ming gets overwhelming support from China and has been elected to start every year of his career. He received the highest vote total in history in 2005, and the fourth-highest ever last season.

"It's great that they did that. ... It makes total sense and we're thrilled that they made that change,'' Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said in San Antonio. "That's what he's been, he's been that way (a power forward) for 10 years. There's no reason to change it.''

Though the paper ballots can't be changed, Duncan will be moved to forward on the online ballot on NBA.com. All votes he has received or receives in the future will be credited toward him at forward.

The All-Star game is Feb. 17 in New Orleans.

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Though the paper ballots can't be changed

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So how did their votes for Duncan at center get switched?

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So how did their votes for Duncan at center get switched?

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They can't reprint the paper ballots.
Any vote Duncan gets on paper, for center, will be counted as a forward vote.
And it's counted from the beginning. Every vote he's gotten, even before the switch, is counted as forward.

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So how did their votes for Duncan at center get switched?

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They just tally them up. The only problem is, someone in an arena that might vote for Duncan at forward but wants to vote for someone else at center won't vote for two centers. And if they do, the ballot is probably invalidated. I haven't seen any explanation otherwise.

Duncan loses some votes simply because Yao is so popular. He probably gets the majority of the anti-Yao votes thou.

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Duncan loses some votes simply because Yao is so popular. He probably gets the majority of the anti-Yao votes thou.

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He's not that far behind Yao. He's closer than I would have guessed.
Of course, Duncan never would get the start if he'd stayed listed as a center.

Yao Ming (Hou) 1,077,244

Tim Duncan (SA) 1,049,641

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He's not that far behind Yao. He's closer than I would have guessed.

Yao Ming (Hou) 1,077,244

Tim Duncan (SA) 1,049,641

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It would probably be inversed if Duncan was Forward on the paper ballots.

Some of these votings are fucked up IMO.
Scola??
McGrady over Nash?
Carmela with so many votes?
Dampier over Kaman???

that tim duncan dude,

his that damn good

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Some of these votings are fucked up IMO.
Scola??
McGrady over Nash?
Carmela with so many votes?
Dampier over Kaman???

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That's why I figured nobody from the Spurs would make the team. Mark Cuban will get his employees voting on multiple computers and clearing their cookies now. The Mavs will surge, just watch.

The All-Star game is half popularity contest, half merit based

I'm happy to see Timmy at the top. The schools I work at are in a contest and combined both schools turned in over 30,000 ballots with all votes for the Spurs!

My guess is that Yao's votes are more adversely affected by Duncan's position on the paper ballots than Duncan's. Remember the paper ballots are distributed here, not China.

Damn! I thought Yao with the billion in support of him would get the most votes!

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Damn! I thought Yao with the billion in support of him would get the most votes!

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how many of those billions have internet access anyway? of those numbers, how many are basketball fans? judging by the numbers, probably around 20,000 if they each vote for yao once a day.

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Kaman in last place is a travesty

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Im shocked. actually. he is playing so good.

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Forwards: Tim Duncan (SA) 1,049,641; Carmelo Anthony (Den) 1,029,335; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 830,970; Carlos Boozer (Utah) 347,899; Shane Battier (Hou) 297,672; Shawn Marion (Pho) 296,917; Josh Howard (Dal) 285,580; Luis Scola (Hou) 279,970; Kevin Durant (Sea) 242,953; Grant Hill (Pho) 209,057.

Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,234,111; Tracy McGrady (Hou) 809,395; Allen Iverson (Den) 694,611; Steve Nash (Pho) 684,813; Manu Ginobili (SA) 360,408; Tony Parker (SA) 316,541;

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yehey :elephant

I'm so happy Tim Duncan finally gets the respect he deserves. There's no way those pretenders can start ahead of him in the ASG.

I hope Manu/TP make the line-up too.

You owe me Timmy. I am responsible for the extra 1000 of those votes. :lmao :lmao :lmao

YAY for Timmy in the first place...the way it should be...

I'm also hoping that both Manu and Tony make the All Stars too...they have a ton of competition though...so it's kinda unlikely for them to make it...but you never know...

By the way, what date is the deadline for the coaches to select the players? Sometime in early February?