I gets this from the realgm
He say he still think about play for Spurs, fan still not interest?
Please no ban of me Kori for post?
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I gets this from the realgm
He say he still think about play for Spurs, fan still not interest?
Please no ban of me Kori for post?
fan still not interest
i think he *might* be better than the average american high school point guard.
eye of the tiger, wow, europeans are so cool.
Still not interested.
As a combo guard he wouldn't be a terrible option.
Spurs don't have a third PG at present and might be losing either Fin, Barry, or both.
I'd say it depends how much he is willing to take for salary will factor in, but the Spurs could do worse than this kid.
He wants more money than Bowen makes.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
In that case....no thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Spurs can find options for long-term backup PG and SG elsewhere and most likely for cheaper.
The guy who let weasly little Jeff Van Gundy send him home crying to mama? No thanks.
we no want
I'm thankful we've finally been given the opportunity to view some of this average player's mediocre highlights. Thanks Bill!
the greek my left ball
The Greek Steve Nash? What is that like the same thing as the White Tim Duncan?
At the right price, kid looks like a decent option. NBA is a whole different game tho, saw some terrible D on his layups. Still, he looks like he has potential NBA material.
But, I don't think the price he wants is gonna fit with the Spurs. This kid needs to play a lot to feel comfortable, and it ain't happening in San Antonio. A good Don Nelson type. Prolly would be better then Beno too.
Not gonna happen in San Antonio that I can see tho. Sorry.
It look to me like in game verse team US nba all-stars also terrible defense on layups then yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernFried
Also it have from the realgm a nba video I gives link below look like also the terrible defense by NBA players on his layups even look much worse to me than the Euroleague defenders in other video even Spurs defenders not even close to stop them.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JxYa3QqBYo
Look, do you need RC Buford's email address or something? There's not a damned person here that has anything to do with who the Spurs sign. I keep hoping you will figure this out but you seem pretty dense.
Kill Bill Pana has convinced me. I've been handwriting letters to R.C. Buford for several months now, imploring the Spurs to spend whatever it takes to bring Billy to U.S.
Trade Duncan if you must, but bring me Billy!!
:lmao at this thread.
Ok, fine. His layups were on bad Defensive USA team in olympics too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
Still wont change the fact there is no room for him on the Spurs. I think he has potential NBA talent...just wont fit right now for the Spurs. Sorry.
Here we go again... :lmao
Spanoulis hasn't a great season so far.
Dude, i don't like Spanoulis, but i don't see any reason to beat on the poor guy who started the thread, he is just excited he is hearing cool stuff about a local player. :downspin:
shouldnt kill bill pana stop posting here anymore?
based on his previous thread.
Spanoulis' fans didn't even know what Spanoulis has won. :lol
For example, Spanoulis didn't won the U18 European championship in 2000.
and :rollin to "this video is dedicated to the greatest point guard on Earth".
Isn't this jackass confined to post on the original spanoulis thread??
the greek steve nash :lmao :lol :lmao
You must be new around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cian
If Darius Washington hangs one on Billy, does that make Darius the new Greek Steve Nash?
No only if Steve Nash does..and then let the "I was Steve Nash in Greece" rumors start lol.
Overrated and never won anything, but Greek. Ah.
No, that would just confirm that Billy is indeed the Greek Steve Nash.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
:smokin
so he is back in Europe. Isn't he? Where is he playing now?
Spanoulis is the greatest player in basketball history, if only to Kill_Bill_Panna.
We might not want V-SPAN, but you may want to go ahead next door over to KINGS TALK.
Rumor is they've been itching to get their hands on a quality point guard.
And unlike our front office, they actually take advice from their fans. That might explain why they are such a quality team.
more like the greek snatch
Did you see how he made highlight plays against basketball powerhouse Qatar?
Also, he got Nash's d down pat.
Nobody needs Spanoulis in San Antonio. I've seen many Euroleague Games this year - but Spanoulis is not one of the Superstars here. He is a solid PG in one of the best Teams in Europe - but nothing more. He would never have a real chance to get into Spurs rotation.
Exactly. If he can't handle Jeff Van Gundy, he sure as hell won't be able to handle a pissed off Popovich. He'd be running back to Greece after a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerIsGood!
No. Not interested.
:lol :lol That would be halarious to actually see.Quote:
Originally Posted by IceColdBrewski
They could make an HEB commercial
Pan to VSPAN runnning off court as he cries.
Manu says: What's his problem?
Bowen: Pop just wanted some refreshing HEB bottled water....
Brent: Wait till he see's post-season Pop.
Seriously,the funniest thing I've read on ST...Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Retard posters make this site so entertaining.
I don't know if Spanoulis can make the team, but you have a great future as a publicist or agent.
Your persistence is very like Pop's slogan for the Spurs--" it's not the last blow of the hammer that breaks the rock, but all those that have gone before it."
I ask Billy he use myspace sites again he say maybe he will so Spur fan can ask him the question he not decide yet but here
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=129634939
Then if he decide use again you can ask him question there so not get mad at me relate thing from him.
If Billy makes decisions based on what fans say then he will have a very short NBA career. Billy needs to decide for himself whether or not he want's the NBA and if he is good enough to make it in this league. Fans and opinions matter very little. All NBA players get their share of player haters and Vspan is no exception.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
SHHHH..... :nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Scolarules
I like the idea of Billy making decision based on the opinions of those here at ST. It's a great idea. Think if it works out, the possibilities. We will finally have someone on the inside. :smokin
we no want no more, you say leave now.
:dizzyQuote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
I'm sure Beno's highlights looked like that too.
I'll pass. Gimme' a Anthony Carter. I'd rather pay him 2-3 mill a year.
I think Spanoulis would be an excellent addition to the Spurs.
not.
After another poster suggested it, and thinking more about it, yes I believe Don Nelson's system would be perfect for him. He could actually excel in the Warrior's system although he'd be playing behind Baron Davis, Jackson, and Ellis. Hmmm come to think of it..he'd never get playing time there lol. He needs to go where the NBA team is short on guards so yeah the Kings or the Clippers would be a good start.
Pepe Sanchez is better :downspin:
If this guy is the "Greek Steve Nash" why isn't he in the NBA?
:toast :downspin:Quote:
Originally Posted by kuato
I find proof Spanoulis tell truth and Van Gundy lie and trick him. This story from 2 YEAR BEFORE he sign with Rocket and match exact story he keep tells every person and same story Greek press keep say was true that he have such agreement with Rocket or they know he never sign and then they break contract because coach mad just because they sign player he not ask for.
http://www.draftexpress.com/dedaily.php?p=251
The DraftExpress Daily
Tuesday, March 29, 2005
Spanoulis giving Rockets reason for optimism?
By Jonathan Givony
Written by Dimitris Ritsonis
Outside the NCAA final four and NBA draft excitement of the previous weeks, comes a point guard which has been mentioned again in DraftCity and has been a product of hard work and absolute belief in improvement of every talent. It is the captain of Maroussi, the second best team in the Greek A1, Vassilis Spanoulis. The 22-year old point guard, a player whom nobody outside Greece had even heard of before last year's NBA Draft.
Spanoulis, an old school PG, a player with great court vision and very good knowledge of basketball fundamentals is not what you would call a "great talent". He is not particularly athletic and is not the fastest player in the world. But that's where "natural" drawbacks end. Having been completely unknown before the beginning of last season (2003-2004), Spanoulis was voted the team captain by his teammates in Maroussi, normally the 6th-10th best Greek team before last year.
Starting as the team's 6th man, Spanoulis had an exciting year last season averaging more or less 13.0 ppg, 1.0 spg and 4.0 apg to help Maroussi to an exciting 10-0 run early in the season and first place in the league for most of the year, losing it only two weeks before the end of the regular season, when the team finished 2nd behind the 3-time European Champions Panathinaikos. Spanoulis became famous in Greece for his strong defensive game, nice slashing abilities and his very strong, demanding character. His buzzer-beating abilities were memorable too. He was a leader in the making.
The surprising Maroussi team went undefeated in the playoffs, losing only in the finals to Panathinaikos, but was not able to qualify for Euroleague, as ULEB has two more contracts with other teams (Olympiakos, AEK) and thus, only the Champions make it to Euroleague. Alongside his domestic league performance, Spanoulis had a spectacular FIBA Europe League semifinal win against Hapoel Tel Aviv, where he scored 26 points along with 5 assists. Spanoulis' good momentum continued into the summer, as he was selected in the NBA Draft (at #50 by Dallas, which traded him immediately to Houston) and he was also called to the National Team of Greece which finished 5th in the Olympic tournament.
Spanoulis was more of a spectator in the Olympics, as Greece's roster includes some really great and experienced point guards. However, he must have learned a lot by the competitiveness in the Athens Olympics, as his season started in a very strong way...
The A1 proved to be more competitive than anyone would expect, but Maroussi, a Cinderella last year, started the season strongly, despite a very tough schedule early in the year. He had 24 points and the buzzer beating trey in an 90-92 away win over the Euroleague top-16 team AEK, 22 points and 4 assists in a 89-87 win over Aris and 13 points, 6 assists and 4 steals in a spectacular and very important 75-55 win over top-spot rivals Panathinaikos, two days ago. In all these games, Spanoulis was voted the MVP of the match day, something that makes him now one of the top (if not the main) favorite for the MVP of the regular season.
Spanoulis has improved his game decisively and this is proved by the additional shots he is taking and making every game. Having shot more than any other Maroussi player, he is now the team's first option, after being the third last year. He is averaging a good 15.0 ppg (shooting 44% from the field, 41% from downtown and 80% from the free throw line) 1.0 spg and 4.0 apg, while he is a "lock" for the national team for this summer's Eurobasket. According to information from his team, he will go to the Houston Rockets only if he is given 10-15 minutes per game, while the Rockets have been sending him tapes all year, looking for him to participate in their summer camp in a few months.
It seems as everything is going well for the 6-4 PG, who has also said that the only reason for not playing in the NBA is qualifying for the Euroleague. Something that doesn't look impossible for Maroussi after last Sunday's game.
Now all stupid Rocket fan and also fan here call me liar and believe Van Gundy lie explain this. Look like Greek media one tell truth and again only Amerikan media one tell lie. Every of all Greek media had report when he sign he promise 10 minute play time by coach on phone but Amerika media refuse report this. I like see how Amerikan react if this happen to Amerikan player go to Greece after take much less money.
Were you banned from all the Rockets boards or why do you keep posting this s#it on the Spurs board?
I'm starting to believe that kill bill pana IS vaginis spanoulis.
Spanoulis still like play Spurs if thing works out right.
:sleep
Thank you so much for posting three-year old crap. Anyone who thinks he can come from the bush leagues and dictate NBA playing time deserves to stay in the bush leagues.
Fuck off and die. Slowly and painfully.
Video of him plays with ROCKETS LAST YEAR. You obvious not even watch video just make stupid comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by CubanMustGo
Trying to read this made my eyes bleed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jeff_van_gundy.jpg
Public Enemy Number 1 in Greece
Really, based on Kill-Bill's posts I would have assumed this was:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ocotillo
http://www.atleest.com/media/GreekLexAbridgeLiddell.jpg
We need him now because TP is obviously hurting.
How soon before Pop rests TP's ankle injury before the post season?
That dude sucks, I hope the Spurs pick him up
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
Amerikan player no go Greece less money, Amerikan player very greed, love the money's.
Hmm Darius Washington only get about 1/5 as much as Spanoulis get in Greece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flight3107
He have say before he knows now his family and him cannot have the vacation time in Athens again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ocotillo
Why give a guy 10-15 minutes per game if he sucks like a certain Hallass player did last season in Houston?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
He get bench after he have best game of season. You explain this how? van Gundy say he best player for team when on court of this game then say he bench him anyway because he not like how he decide driver ball instead pass to T-mac.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
He didn't play well in the NBA. You explain this how?Quote:
He get bench after he have best game of season. You explain this how?
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Flight3107
If you convert Bill to the redneck dialect, it becomes much more understandable:
Quote:
I fin` proof Spanoulis tell truth `n` Van Gundy lie `n` trick him. dis story from 2 YEAR b4 he sign wif Rocket `n` match exact story he keep tells evary person `n` same story Greek press keep say was true dat he have such agreement wif Rocket er they know he ne`er sign `n` then they break contract because coach mad just because they sign player he not ask for.
Spanoulis have good new video. I sends to Billy he tell me like this one.
:ihit
How's ya boy Billy doing in Greece this season? Stat line don't look to good. Is he regretting going back to Greece right now when he had a chance to sign with the NBA Champs?
I would be....
why are you bumpin this thread over a turd who will never wear the silver and black or play in the nba
2:22 in was pretty sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
No Panathinaikos BC team 27-2 record so far with 1-0 Greek Cup, 14-0 Greek Championship and 12-2 Euroleague and rank #1 all team of Europe at eurobasket.com in 31 game he lead team in point scored and assist. Not bad lead team in point and assist when best team in Europe. Spanoulis lead Greek league in assist (also the NBA kind of assist but this not official stats) and 2nd in Greek League in the player economy he probably be MVP of Greek League and this good accomplishment because league have Diamantidis and he have won 3 MVP already. Diamantidis better than any player in Spanish League. Spanoulis 2nd best defender at guard position in Euroleague after Diamantidis base on how he play defense so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Team will win Triple Crown Championship be only 3rd ever history to do this back to back years. This equal 6 championship in row.
Then he can opt out of contract at end of year if he choose. He always want play Spurs you misunderstands he have to leave because mommy sick remembers? He love Spurs team very much just like he love Panathinaikos team.
http://www.freelayouticons.com/graph...-z68844418.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
:lmao
I thought he signed a 5 year deal with a massive buy out, how is he going to get out of that in only one year?
If he does, we would like him back in Houston...
DD
Kill Bill what about Papaloukas. Isn't he coming over soon? Also what about Prignoni from Tau?
Aaahhh!!!!!
I watched the vids from Prigioni. If anyone can claim the Euroleague Steve Nash title it's this guy. His passing is amazing. He's also Argentinian. Scola and Ginobili's teammate. Why isn't this guy in the NBA?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02056704877253
he can't score
I thought he could score enough if he puts his mind to it.
http://217.13.116.51/noticia.jsp?tem...nada=25&id=908
23:57mpg 7.2ppg 42.9%2pt 38.1%3pt 94.4%ft 3.9ast 2.3to
good D, great court vision, amazing on the pickandroll but an awful shooter
How is 42 percent 2pt shooting aweful? He was a Euroleague MVP candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemotivo
nice vid, especially with some of it from NBA footage when he got off JVG bench.
If he wants to play for the Spurs I assume:
1. he is in contact with them to let them know he's serious about coming back next year
2. has resolved his family problems and
3. Understands Pop's attitude toward minutes: no guarantees and
4. he'd have to earn his spot on a good veteran team them as well as the minutes.
5. The Spurs play defense first. No D--No can do, No play.
6. Asking Salary has to be in line with team payroll, needs, and his projected value to the Spurs in the NBA, not his status in Greece.
Those are a lot of conditions, but he should already be aware of them if he is serious about playing for the SPURS.
Lots of fans here were turned off by his turn down of the Spurs, but the final judgment by Pop is the only one that counts.
no "arc" in his shotsQuote:
Originally Posted by Scolarules
LOL perfect JVG player. Actually most coaches would like a pass first pt guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemotivo
how long does his currnt euro contract run for?
He would be a great addition to the torros! lol
I've watched enough Spanoulis games. He is fearless. Takes the ball to the rack and very good interior passer. Problem is that if you are his teammate and are unprepared for the ball coming to you, it's gonna result in a turn over. Spanoulis turns the ball over a lot. Just like Ginobili. High energy player and can create off the dribble. Very fast. JVG benched him cause he doesn't like rookies who turn the ball over.
Someone hack this cause it doesn't work anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnerDynasty
No he sign 3 year for €5 million this be = $7.318 million now I checks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaDakota
He also get amount of €800,000 buyout which Panathinaikos have to pay to Spurs then they gives to Billy. I checks this be = $1.17 million now.
He also get the 200,000 per year for house and car expense pay by team which not be count in contract amount and he also get all tax pay by team.
Tax be 40% for his salary so he have the salary of the €1,666,667 per year and then he have the tax of €666,666 per year. Panathinaikos team have to pay all tax salary. So his salary each year be €1,666,667 NET all amount plus the €200,000 tax free also for player expense. Also Panathinaikos have to pay all tax amount on his €800,000 buyout so it be net.
Plus remembers Billy agree much less money to play Panathinaikos because this best team of Europe and they plays right in Athens and he plays there before and like coach and owner and teammate very much.
But he gets offer same buyout plus same expense for car and house plus same pay all taxes from other team to only instead offer the 1.67 million salary a year they offers the 2 million salary a year this be Olympiacos, CSKA Moscow, FC Barcelona, Tau Vitoria, Real Madrid all offers him this so give Panathinaikos discount.
By NBA salary since team have to count player expense pay like car and home and also if team pay taxes must count because NBA not NET then with the exchange rates and buyouts Billy get about $9.36 million the US money NET salary for 3 years from Panathinaikos but he offers the $10.8 million the US money NET then for 3 years from other teams. But he takes the less money to play on defending Euroleague champions.
They says in Greek newspaper that since Billy get this money about like the $9.36 million US be NET this mean NBA team have to pay him about $4.8 million per year then to = Panathinaikos salary this because the salary be tax 35% in US and team not pay it like in Greece. Of course this be even higher salary if he not take pay cuts like do for Panathinaikos.
So this mean offers he gets from other teams in Europe be = NBA MLE.
Team have to pay more if NBA team that not have no state tax. As say Texas team like Spur and Rocket have not the tax so Billy can get more money if play them. Just like Billy take pay cut from offers play Rockets before and this Panathinaikos he willing do this for right NBA team.
If no state tax Texas and willing take pay cut right team this mean he not have to get MLE for 3 years even though can get this amount in Europe. He have say before when sign with Rocket he have market value then of half MLE in NBA as he offer this by 3 NBA teams but he take Rockets LLE amount.
He have right now $12 million for 3 years market value for NBA this be asking price if not right NBA team but he willing take LLE maybe if team like Spurs or willing give him playing time but he have to play because be take such huge pay cuts he not do like before take big pay cut from Greece then get bench all year by coach.
Yes he have buyout but way I understand is Billy have player option for 2nd year of contract. His first year not option and 3 year not but second year player option. So he have so many day after season to stay in contract or not only after first year of contract which be this year. So guess mean this year he have so many day to opt out if choose. Agent make this so he can go back NBA if want and also at end of year if team win Triple Crown champion again he be worth much more money.
Billy like Rockets teammate very much he say so. He friend with Lucas and Tsakalidis but they not with team now but he also friend with Novak and Battier and T-Mac and he say many time Yao is like idol for him. He like Rocket owner and he also like Rocket GM Dawson and the old one Lindsey and Morey. But he also upset that they just keeps tell him they want him be starting point guard but that coach have final say. He not understand they let this happen.
He make sure he never play there if Van Gundy stay. He have say he like Adelman very much he say Peja tell him play with him. Peja is friend from Greece. Adelman and Yao have call him and ask he return. Also T-Mac have been to his home over summer and also to Eurobasket to see him play. T-Mac at summer time ask him to come back after season over they good friend. Rocket GM Morey and coach have open offer. He allow come back if he choose.
But he have many doubt can Rocket GM be trust after how they handle him before just let van Gundy decide all. Like he say even owner seem not able tie own shoe without Van Gundy permission there. He have much thought about how he can be use by coach like Adelman and how he can play pick and roll with Yao and T-mac this why he sign in first place. T-Mac and Yao call him several time and tell him they want him back and he get play with new coach.
But also Billy loves Spurs very much. If he gets chance play with team have won the 4 championship this be team get first say for him plays there. Also he have say before he probable can no play Houston again because he very upset and mad about how the Rocket fan talk about him. He read the clutchfan site many time and get so angry he not forget all the thing say about him and Greece and also how all the lie about he say "I T-Mac in Greece" and all joke about something he never say. The lie of Van Gundy and how fans act to him and also how on radio they make fun of his accent and how he talk and all Greek people this make him very mad at how people act there.
I try it now it work you should try again work now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scolarules
I also likes this one because it have him against US team
I ask Greek who make video if he have more and he say he can make another video and many the best highlight play he not use yet.
What's going on with Papaloukas and Diamantidis? If Billy doesn't want to play with the Rockets then what about these other two?
Prigioni I not know what he do. Papaloukas get offer the MLE this summer from Heats, Clippers, Lakers, Hawks, Celtics and also be starting point guards on teams but he decide not to because he upset how Spanoulis benched. He say Spanoulis best player in practice of national team and if he treat such way by coach in NBA something wrong with NBA and he not interest. He get huge contract for 3 year with CSKA Moscow and he I think 30 year old now so by time contract over I think this mean he never plays in NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scolarules
But he kind of mad because after Celtics get Kevin Garnett he change his mind and want badly be Celtics point guard and they still want him as starter but he have already sign with CSKA team. I think he regret now not join Celtics team.
"The Greek Steve Nash". Didn't George Michael get arrested for doing that in a public bathroom?