C'mon man. That was an flop.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Take the homer glasses off.
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C'mon man. That was an flop.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Take the homer glasses off.
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Originally Posted by BonnerDynasty
For once an unbiased opinion.
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Originally Posted by T Park
Um I believe Parker blew by everyone last year, if I'm not mistaken. Didn't he get Finals MVP? I'm pretty sure Parker can blow by anyone in the NBA when he's injury free. Then again I may have ridiculous opinions.
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Originally Posted by SequSpur
saying Oberto is a stiff is pretty Fing rediculous yes.Quote:
Then again I may have ridiculous opinions.
Justifying Manu flopping then turning around and giving some BS thing about Oberto flopping being bad is rediculous yes.
If I were to choose one, I would say...Barry for James Posey. Posey is a good defensive player and he has a shot from the outside. He's can also be physical on defense because he has a big build.I think posey is tailored made for the spurs. He's,first of all defensive minded.Second, he only shoots when necessary (He's like, bruce bowen). Lasstly, he's scrappy (like manu). A junk yard dog!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek_XX
Not that I don't like barry. He's also a great player, he can shoot from the outside and can also do defense. But to get something , you must give something. He's the only guy in the bench ,except finley, that is enticing enough to the other teams. Boston , can really benefit from barry's three point shooting. That will give them a fourth option on offense (besides the big three). What you think guys? fair deal?
So wait a second, just because K. Thomas gave up some lay ups to one of the better finishers in the NBA you dont think hes is a good defender? I guess by that logic you dont think that highly of Duncan, because he gets dunked on at least once a week
same logic you guys use for Oberto.Quote:
So wait a second, just because K. Thomas gave up some lay ups to one of the better finishers in the NBA you dont think hes is a good defender? I guess by that logic you dont think that highly of Duncan, because he gets dunked on at least once a week
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Originally Posted by T Park
Oberto is a stiff. He's should be nothing more than the 4th big in our rotation. You tell me what he brings besides back cutting, making open lay ups, and tipping the ball for offensive rebounds .5 times a game.
Oberto is a big man. Big men who flop defensively are pussies.
I'd take Rasho back for Oberto's salary in a heartbeat.
Obviously nothing you know far more about the game than Gregg Popovich who thinks Oberto is a hell of a player.Quote:
You tell me what he brings besides back cutting, making open lay ups, and tipping the ball for offensive rebounds .5 times a game.
But if Manu does it, its GOLD!!!Quote:
Oberto is a big man. Big men who flop defensively are pussies.
GENIUS!!
:lol
name me the games Rasho had like Oberto's in the playoffs please?Quote:
I'd take Rasho back for Oberto's salary in a heartbeat.
Stats also to back em up, cause stats tell the whole story.
Pop has also said Beno is a hell of a player.
Manu has no choice when rotating defensively to take a charge. He's a fraile stick. He can't stand his ground and contest shots like big men should.
:lmao
Thats the comeback
"Well well well pop said Beno is a hell of a player"
Pardon me
BTW
when Oberto put 21 and 13 on the Nuggets
what does that say about Marcus Camby?
Kind of different wouldnt you say?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Kurt Thomas was giving up lay ups with zero help side defense on the Phoenix Suns who pay zero attention to defense. Also most of that series he was defending Duncan.
Oberto is playing alongside Tim Duncan and inside Poppavich's system that preaches defense.
Good comparison though.
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Manu has no choice when rotating defensively to take a charge. He's a fraile stick. He can't stand his ground and contest shots like big men should
God what apuss
:lmao @ spelling Pop's nameQuote:
Oberto is playing alongside Tim Duncan and inside Poppavich's system that preaches defense.
congrats on botching that one there.
Whatever, you guys can bag on Oberto all you want, but where were you guys earlier this year when he was busting out double doubles left and right saying he is a stiff?
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Oberto did flop. But it was also offensive. If not for running into Oberto, right before that for pushing with off arm on Bowen. But you aren't going to get that call that often.
Anyway, the Spurs game wasn't about a flop, or TP's missed free thows or Manu's miss at the end, it was about playing like crap for the majority of the game. If you keep getting down big, you have to expend all your energy crawling back. You could tell Tony/Manu were running out of gas at the end.
Anyway, Spurs Big 3 were pretty decent today. The rest of the team sucked though.
Write down all the excuses or complaints you want.
"We won't win with this old team."
"It's only one loss."
"Our bigs outside Tim suck."
"4 Rings!!"
blahblahblah
The Spurs aren't a very cohesive unit right now. Blame it on too many injuries not giving them enough time on the court together. Blame it on not enough trust in the role players, leading to too much one-on-one play from Manu and Tony. Blame it on Duncan not trying that hard on D.
I'm not that worried. Last year in January, I didn't like the Spurs team and I worried/complained a lot. I hated our bigs and I thought Barry should be dealt. Pop and the Spurs f'd me over and won a Championship. So apparently they know what they are doing. :lol
Pop will call them soft. The team will respond. They'll go on a 10 game winning streak. They'll drop a couple games to crap teams. And then we'll roll the dice and head into the playoffs and see what happens.
gotta love when people go after spelling on a message board. Forgive me master of the English language,I didn't take the time to Google the correct spelling,It made my whole arguement insignificant.
Where was i when Oberto was pulling down double double? I wasn't bitching about him because he was actually doing his job. Forgive me for not having faith in a 3rd year player who so far has been inconsistent at best. When someone not named Tim, Tony, Manu, or Bruce isn't performing I'd prefer to have a backup plan. I don't want to go into the playoffs with a glaring weakness
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Originally Posted by T Park
Pop always praises his players at one time or another to some extent. There is that mutual respect no matter how much PT a player gets or how he performs. You hardly ever hear Pop dog one his players in the media. Just because he has said Oberto and Beno are hell of a player doesn't justify that they are superb. Yes Oberto had a 2 -4 good games in the playoffs. Overall in the end hes nothing better than a 4th big in the rotation. Just an average big guy.( 5 points 5 boards .2 blocks in 20 mpg.)
And that game says nothing about Marcus Camby. Camby is a proven defensive rebounding blocking machine thats why he got DPOY award last year.
Well if your a Spurs fan I would think you would at least know how to spell the coach's name rightQuote:
gotta love when people go after spelling on a message board. Forgive me master of the English language,I didn't take the time to Google the correct spelling,It made my whole arguement insignificant.
don't get so butt hurt.
So, when he plays bad trade him, when hes playing goodQuote:
Where was i when Oberto was pulling down double double? I wasn't bitching about him because he was actually doing his job.
silence
the epitome of a "hater"
I don't think you have a right to ever question anyone's spelling. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by T Park
2-4 games in the playoffs?Quote:
Yes Oberto had a 2 -4 good games in the playoffs. Overall in the end hes nothing better than a 4th big in the rotation. Just an average big guy.( 5 points 5 boards .2 blocks in 20 mpg.)
Your shitting me...
He was fucking huge in every win they had.
Sorry but as you will someday learn kiddo, players do alot of things that matter that don't show up in the stat sheet.
A rotation that forces a bad shot.
A screen under the basket that opens up an open three for Bowen in the corner.
Learn to watch the games, Oberto was a stud damn near all playoffs long.
I don't think Sequ has a right to question my fanhood yet nothings said about that.Quote:
I don't think you have a right to ever question anyone's spelling