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Originally Posted by adam8065

Um...genius Manu can make his free throws and has been shooting well too! And Duncan doesn't have enough time to post up with 2 seconds left in the game!

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I'm not talking only about this game but different types of scenarios or options the spurs may have if Duncan gets the inbounds pass . There was plenty of time for Duncan to get a shot off in this game. Get the ball to Duncan and more good can come out of it.

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Originally Posted by timvp

This illustrates why Spurs fans should be on their hands and knees praying that Horry finds his game. Do you want Bonner or Elson playing key fourth quarter minutes in the playoffs ... or Horry?

Easy question.

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I love Horry but I really think he's done and should hang it up NOW. Give Bonner enough play time and he will be as good as Horry. The way Pop keeps benching him (Bonner) for long periods of time and then pulling him in cold at a clutch situation like tonight is pure bullcrap !!

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Originally Posted by timvp

This illustrates why Spurs fans should be on their hands and knees praying that Horry finds his game. Do you want Bonner or Elson playing key fourth quarter minutes in the playoffs ... or Horry?

Easy question.

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here's a question to your question:


If we're gonna say for the sake of argument that PHX and DAL aren't as good as last year (which is debatable, especially since it's only january) should Spurs fans still be worried seeing as how many holes this team appears to have and their inability to execute in the fourth?

I mean despite all our losing, we're still within a game of PHX/DAL, but even for January, this team seems off to me more so than in years past.

Should the fans be concerned? Do we need to explore any trades?

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Originally Posted by timvp

This illustrates why Spurs fans should be on their hands and knees praying that Horry finds his game. Do you want Bonner or Elson playing key fourth quarter minutes in the playoffs ... or Horry?

Easy question.

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That's like saying do you want a doctor nearby you when you get shot, or Jesus Christ himself.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

My greatest fear is that Horry wont find his game.

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First, I want Horry to catch his breath. He needs to get into game shape and get motivated to do those little intangible things that make him a great Spurs player...not just his ability to hit clutch 3s.

I think if he gets back to doing those little things (running the length of the court, being active on defense, blocking shots, setting up teammates from the high-post or top of the key), he'll already be more useful than what Elson or Bonner could give.

Bottom Line: Horry needs to get in shape and get motivated to play his heart out first and foremost. Anything beyond that, like finding his shot for instance, would just be icing on the cake.

One step at a time....

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

here's a question to your question:


If we're gonna say for the sake of argument that PHX and DAL aren't as good as last year (which is debatable, especially since it's only january) should Spurs fans still be worried seeing as how many holes this team appears to have and their inability to execute in the fourth?

I mean despite all our losing, we're still within a game of PHX/DAL, but even for January, this team seems off to me more so than in years past.

Should the fans be concerned? Do we need to explore any trades?

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I think trade should always be in the back mind because if a good prospect comes along ....why not.....
I believe that this team needs something new and fresh so that can break the stagnate and static atmosphere that the spurs are in...

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Originally Posted by PHAT TONY

First, I want Horry to catch his breath. He needs to get into game shape and get motivated to do those little intangible things that make him a great Spurs player...not just his ability to hit clutch 3s.

I think if he gets back to doing those little things (running the length of the court, being active on defense, blocking shots, setting up teammates from the high-post or top of the key), he'll already be more useful than what Elson or Bonner could give.

Bottom Line: Horry needs to get in shape and get motivated to play his heart out first and foremost. Anything beyond that, like finding his shot for instance, would just be icing on the cake.

One step at a time....

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That is exactly what is scary about this. Horry does so much for this team - the intangibles, the intelligence, the savvy plays - that literally no one else on this team can do. If he's not on or somehow doesn't find his game, it will be a big blow to the Spurs championship aspirations.

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Originally Posted by adam8065

Yeah because Duncan with 2.4 seconds can really get a great shoot off? Basically you can only set a couple of back screens and get a wide open jumper with that little time left!

And Manu and Barry are better shooters than Duncan. If there was more time then dump it down to Duncan sorry 2.4 seconds isn't enough time. And sorry the way Tim has been shooting free throws I don't want him to have the ball at the end of games!

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Duncan is a better shooter than both Manu and Barry. Its a higher % shot for Duncan. Only thing Duncan needs to work on his ft%.

Oberto seems to have regressed completely. He used to gets tons of easy baskets cutting into the lane, but now he's settling for outside jumpers and isn't rebounding nearly as well as he used to.

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Originally Posted by rascal

Duncan is a better shooter than both Manu and Barry. Its a higher % shot for Duncan. Only thing Duncan needs to work on his ft%.

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haha

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Originally Posted by rascal

Duncan is a better shooter than both Manu and Barry. Its a higher % shot for Duncan. Only thing Duncan needs to work on his ft%.

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The problem I have with TD taking close shots with less than 3 seconds left is that he almost always gets hammered and never gets the call in those situations.

case in point: game 7 against the mavs in regulation.

he had a great shot against seattle in game 5 of the 2005 playoffs, but most of the time I'd rather drive and kick it out instead of forcing it in with very little chance of a foul call

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Originally Posted by adam8065

Your are such a fucking moron it isn't even funny! Duncan isn't a better shooter than Manu or Barry. I know your such a blind homer that you can't see anything but Duncan's cock!!


Hey genius if Duncan is the best shooter on our team as you say..why doesn't Pop have Duncan with the ball at the end of games instead of Manu?

Duncan is the best player on the Spurs but he isn't the best shooter!! But your too stupid to know the difference.

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Duncan is proven clutch.

Manu is clutch but is also proven TO clutch.



turnover.

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Originally Posted by BonnerDynasty

Duncan is proven clutch.

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yeah...but he is not a better shooter than manu or barry....

From the 3, no.

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

here's a question to your question:


If we're gonna say for the sake of argument that PHX and DAL aren't as good as last year (which is debatable, especially since it's only january) should Spurs fans still be worried seeing as how many holes this team appears to have and their inability to execute in the fourth?

I mean despite all our losing, we're still within a game of PHX/DAL, but even for January, this team seems off to me more so than in years past.

Should the fans be concerned? Do we need to explore any trades?

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I know these statements I'm about to make are SO LAST YEAR, but I believe the Spurs FO should explore an opportunity to add one player to its roster. The scary thing is this team is STRUGGLING to score even when the Big Three are on the court.

Manu and Tony are the only players who can break down a defense and slash to the basket. Duncan is the only player who can score in the post. Outside of those guys, the offensive production has been very poor. This team is also deficient in rebounding and low on hustle and energy.

The Spurs DO need another player who either has a good midrange game and preferably can shoot the 3 very well. Of course, he should be at least an average or a "willing-to-be-average" defender.

I'm finally ready and willing for them to package Barry/Elson and get someone else here that can fill that void.

Possible trade targets:
Corey Maggette - Clippers
Mikael Pietrus - Warriors
Hakim Warrick - Grizzlies

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

here's a question to your question:


If we're gonna say for the sake of argument that PHX and DAL aren't as good as last year (which is debatable, especially since it's only january) should Spurs fans still be worried seeing as how many holes this team appears to have and their inability to execute in the fourth?

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History says that the Spurs should be fine. By the playoffs, whether the Spurs struggled or played well during the middle of the season is forgotten. I don't see anything happening right now that can't be corrected.

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

I mean despite all our losing, we're still within a game of PHX/DAL, but even for January, this team seems off to me more so than in years past.

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The Spurs were playing a lot worse this time last year. They looked dead in the water. This year it's not pretty but at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

Should the fans be concerned? Do we need to explore any trades?

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One year the Spurs will dig their customary midseason hole ... and then find that they aren't able to flip the switch. So yeah, it's always a bit of a concern. I don't think that's the case this year but you never know.

As far as trades, I'm not really in favor of a trade at this point. Barry's contract is the best trade bait the Spurs have but I'd rather just keep Barry.

The only trade I make is for insurance. For example, if Parker's ankle becomes chronic, you might look to trade Elson's expiring contract for a quality emergency point guard. Or if Manu's finger doesn't heal, you might look to trade for a scorer. If everyone is healthy, I like how the team is currently constructed.

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Originally Posted by adam8065

Your are such a fucking moron it isn't even funny! Duncan isn't a better shooter than Manu or Barry. I know your such a blind homer that you can't see anything but Duncan's cock!!


Hey genius if Duncan is the best shooter on our team as you say..why doesn't Pop have Duncan with the ball at the end of games instead of Manu?

Duncan is the best player on the Spurs but he isn't the best shooter!! But your too stupid to know the difference.

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You don't know what I know. First off I am not a homer nor a genious nor am I stupid. And you must be some type of fag to bring up anyones cock in this discussion.

I know Manu is a better perimeter shooter but Duncan hits at a higher % hence he is (a better shot option) when you need one basket.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

I know these statements I'm about to make are SO LAST YEAR, but I believe the Spurs FO should explore an opportunity to add one player to its roster. The scary thing is this team is STRUGGLING to score even when the Big Three are on the court.

Manu and Tony are the only players who can break down a defense and slash to the basket. Duncan is the only player who can score in the post. Outside of those guys, the offensive production has been very poor. This team is also deficient in rebounding and low on hustle and energy.

The Spurs DO need another player who either has a good midrange game and preferably can shoot the 3 very well. Of course, he should be at least an average or a "willing-to-be-average" defender.

I'm finally ready and willing for them to package Barry/Elson and get someone else here that can fill that void.

Possible trade targets:
Corey Maggette - Clippers
Mikael Pietrus - Warriors
Hakim Warrick - Grizzlies

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We don't need another 3 pt shooter. We have plenty.

I'd hate to get rid of Barry after he has FINALLY turned into the Barry we originally wanted.

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Originally Posted by adam8065

I never said Duncan isn't clutch..I'm saying he isn't a better shooter than Barry or Manu and right now the way he is shooting free throws I understand why Pop wouldn't use him as the first option. Duncan also had 5 turnovers too!

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Why would you consider free throw percentage when you are running a play with 2.4 seconds to go? The Rockets wouldn't foul on purpose and the refs likely aren't calling any fouls with such little time left.