if we got james posey that would be absolutely sick
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What ever happened to this Marcus Dove fellow some people were talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
To be honest, I've thought him a ridiculously good fit for some time now. He's taller than Bowen and as ferocious on defense... possibly an attitude problem... DUI last summer, not sure what's in his head. He's showing more offensive flashes than he did last year (because he didn't have to). Collects 5.8 rpg and averages 2.2 steals and 1.1 blocks per game. Granted he had 13 steals combined against Texas-Arlington and UTSA, so that puffed the average up slightly. He's tough and cares about basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
If he's still there at the Toronto pick, absolutely hell yes. I'd seriously consider grabbing him with the first rounder. He fills a need lickety split.
Considering he might still be there at the Raptors pick he sounds too good to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I think so. Maybe his personal profile is such he should be drafted higher, I don't know.
And this is the person you hope they plan on replacing Bowen with, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I'm curious why Pop started Richardson. He didn't seem intent on playing him much. I didn't think Richardson did anything that bad to not give him more minutes if the plan was to start him to see what he can do, so to speak.
Well, it's an idea. He's much taller and longer than most anyone that has come up, might be had with the Toronto pick, and could be a Travis Outlaw-type player (1 s, 1 b/game), but maybe he busts or is a headcase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblo...monroe_wha.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by The Truth #6
Mike Monroe: Whatever It Takes
Gregg Popovich said he decided to start Jeremy Richardson in Monday afternoon's game against the Charlotte Bobcats only because Richardson just signed his second 10-day contract and the Spurs coaches wanted to see what he migh be able to give them.
Of course, there was more to it than that. Pre-season is for looking at rookies to see what they might be able to do.
Call me cynical, but I think Popovich did it to mess with Bobcats coach Sam Vincent's head just a little.
Vincent game-planned Monday's game figuring his high-scoring power forward, Gerald Wallace, would be matched up against Fabricio Oberto, not Michael Finley, whom Popovich assigned to defend Wallace.
Popovich pretty much stuck with small lineups throughout Monday's game, and Ime Udoka did a fine defensive job on Wallace, too.
Richardson played only 11 minutes and 18 seconds, but his presence in the starting lineup seemed to befuddle the Bobcats a bit.
Can someone tell me how to post imbedded youtube videos?
Marcus Dove.
Mr.B - Dove would be about the same as Bowen, a nullity on offense. Perhaps not as great an outside shooter but perhaps a bit better everywhere else. I do think he has the skills to develop into more of a threat - he's not terrible this year and doubled his scoring average (not saying tons there).
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Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Here you go.
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From what you say I am starting to like this kid, but I'm afraid if we keep Bowen, Udoka, and draft Dove we wouldn't have enough scoring coming from our SG/SF rotation. After them 3, there would be more than likely only 2 more spots for the SG/SF rotation, one of which would belong to Manu and the other would be belong to either Finley, Barry, or Richardson assuming he makes it, or another new guy via free agency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Or unless we let him develop in Europe/D-League until Bowen retires.
Go with your first instinct....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
Brandon Rush :tu
Kid can shoot, defend, and knows how to be a supporting role player if necessary. The only thing hurting him is the injury concern with the ACL. Other than that, I think this kid should be in a Spurs uni next year.
I'd take Rush with the first rounder and be happy.
As for Dove, having Bowen still on the roster is no reason to pick him up. His size alone is attractive - he'd easily be tall enough for Nowitzki, and guarded Durant well - and Bowen doesn't have much time left, anyway.
We only have 13 on the team at the moment, anyway (I won't yet consider Richardson a teammate, figuring he'll be gone soon).
Or perhaps both?Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Draft in order, Rush, Dragic, then Dove. I would call that a successful draft. :smokin Though it's almost impossible to pull off.
Let Dove develop in the D-League, maybe send down Dragic with him.
Would Rush come in and immediately start playing or do you imagine him getting his share of time in Austin?
You and I think alot alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
The Spurs would probably have to move up in the 2nd to get Dragic, but he could start to develop as Tony's long-term backup. Of course, if he couldn't come over next year there is always the pool of young D-League PGs to choose from....like Washington, Watson, or a few that might mistakenly come out in next year's strong PG draft and go undrafted to bridge the gap.
As for Rush, I think it would depend heavily on the retirement/FA situation for Fin and Barry. I think both are good for this team and both can still contribute at the right price (vet min?), but I wonder if both will be back. If so, then I'd say Rush spends the year in the D-League and gets alot of seasoning there. However, if one or both don't come back I think you'd see Rush with ample opportunity to prove himself.
Bottom Line: I think Rush would be ready to step in and contribute, but the question would be if he had the opportunity to do so.
:lol For some reason that made me chuckle. But thank you, I appreciate that coming from one of the more knowledged members.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Does he have a contract that can keep him from entering the NBA next year? Or are you just saying if he waits until the following year to enter the draft?Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
That's what I was thinking as well. As much as I want them two to come back, we do need some young talent out there. But if they both come back and we send Rush down to the D-League, then I would be fine with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Nbadraft.net has Toronto taking Dragic with the 47th pick (ours right?) right now. Of course all this changes by the week.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame
On Dragic, I'm not sure about his contract situation and I was assuming that he is going to be in this draft. I was just saying that sometimes there are contract disputes with the Euro teams and also that sometimes there's an agreement between the NBA team and the player that they'll stay overseas for a year or two (as was the case with Mahinmi) to work on their game.
Basically, I was saying that the Spurs should definitely go after this kid, but that they could "make do" with a fill-in third PG if he was unable to come over.
On Rush, I agree that this team needs new blood and I think he appears to be a Spurs-type player. I'd be more than happy if he were there with the first round pick and the Spurs took him. Also, IF the Spurs brought back both Fin and Barry It'd be on one or two-year vet min type deals....meaning it wouldn't be long before Rush could come in and contribute.
DraftExpress has him going with the third pick in the second round.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame
At this point it's all over the board, so I wouldn't trust any one site over another.
Bottom Line: As we get closer to the draft questions will be answered about his buyout status, he will work out at camps and for individual teams, and the Spurs will have a full season of him at the Euroleague level to reflect on.
Do you see any teams willing to part with a mid-2nd rounder for Elson + cash or our 2nd rounder?
I'm trying to envision any scenarios to move us up in the 2nd round so we can nab both Dragic and Dove.
urr time i see J.Richardson I think Jason.
Not sure how we got down this road, but I just wanted to say in general...
The Spurs have an excellent opportunity next year to inject a great deal of youth into their team and I would be disappointed if they didn't at least take partial advantage of that fact.
I would love to see Elson go, and though it would be bittersweet to see Horry gone, I think it's time for that as well. I'm very excited that the Spurs have two young F/Cs in the system that should be able to come in and fill important roles from the outset and can be long-term pieces to the futuer of this team.
My hope is that the Spurs begin to take steps to accomplish the same sort of infusion with their backcourt and on the wing. I'm not saying I want Barry and Finley to be shown the door, because I think they can still provide veteran leadership, versatility, and long-range shooting to this team....but I think it's time to start the process of adding legitimate options to the table. This draft and potentially this free-agent offseason will be crucial in determining where the Spurs go from here.
I think they've started that evalaution process with the likes of Washington, Richardson, Williams, Johnson, and Langford...but I think a serious long-term investment into the future is necessary (via 1st round pick or FA signing) and hope one comes sooner rather than later.
My dream scenario would see Rush on this team in '08 and contributing significantly by '09 at the latest. It would also see the Spurs going after a long-term solution at PG, be that Goran Dragic or another of a good young crop that should be coming out in this year's draft. This long-term solution wouldn't have to be ready until '09 but should be ready to assume full-time backup duty then.
Bottom Line: Obviously, phasing young talent into a veteran-laden roster is not easy, but I think it's time for the Spurs FO to start making those steps.
Moving up in the second round or even adding a second round pick on draft day usually isn't that difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
If the Spurs could move Elson and get a second round pick back though, I'd be all for it. Hell, if the Spurs dumped Elson's salary and got nothing back, I'd be all for it.