The Battle for team of the Decade

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Originally Posted by Harry Callahan

These LA guys think they are going back the good old days where they could just buy someone or a team would make a horrible trade - like the rights to Kobe for an aging Vlade D in the last year of his contract to the Hornets.

Face it, Kobe's had several medical procedures on his knees. He has played an enormous number of minutes his entire career. I don't care how much he conditions himself, the wear and tear is going to catch up with him soon. It will be a dramatic decline. BTW, is Kobe even signed after next season? I don't think so. Without him, this is a .500 basketball team at the very best.

LA has not won a championship in almost 5 years. That was really a pretty short window of success to me (the 2000-2002 seasons). Missing the playoffs entirely after Shaq left is not good.

When the Spurs' era of dominance ends, the Laker fans need to look to the Pacific Northwest to see the next franchise that will put them in their place. Portland - their talent will overwhelm the Lakers very soon.

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Portland's supposed franchise center has already had microfracture surgery on his knees and he hasn't even played one damn game in the NBA yet. I wouldn't crown them just yet.

Bynum is proven talent as far as I'm concerned. There is a reason why every single NBA analyst, GM, and coach has touted this kid as the best young center prospect in the NBA outside of Dwight Howard.

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Originally Posted by bostonguy

Only reason why they would pull out the victories is because Duncan didnt have enough help. Thats why the next year when he had better players/shooters/slashers, they raped the living fuck out of LA. They lost some of those key guys and replaced them with downgrades which didnt help them much in 04 against the Lakers. If you are going to throw the stamina card for 2003, then the Spurs didnt have Duncan in 2000, and didnt have the slashers/shooters in 2001 and 2002. Then when they were healthy and had those types of players, they dominated the Lakers. Then lost those players and lost in 04.

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Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Results are all that matters. If the Spurs had such a great team then why'd they dismantle it? You play the game with the players you have and let the chips fall where they may. You don't whine like a little bitch after you lose. Oh wait, you're a Celtics fan whose team hasn't been relevant in over two decades. My mistake.

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Originally Posted by Lakeshow1

The Spurs didn't play thru June for 3 years straight, the Lakers did.

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So that's the excuse why they got their asses handed to them in 2003? It wasnt because the Spurs literally outplayed them? I mean having leads like they did in that series cant be sugercoated by "playing in June for 3 years in a row." Whats the plan B excuse? Rick Fox would have made a difference in that series?

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Originally Posted by bostonguy

So that's the excuse why they got their asses handed to them in 2003? It wasnt because the Spurs literally outplayed them? I mean having leads like they did in that series cant be sugercoated by "playing in June for 3 years in a row." Whats the plan B excuse? Rick Fox would have made a difference in that series?

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It's not an excuse. Its a fact! Look it up and show me where another team did that and won the title. :smokin

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Results are all that matters. If the Spurs had such a great team then why'd they dismantle it? You play the game with the players you have and let the chips fall where they may. You don't whine like a little bitch after you lose. Oh wait, you're a Celtics fan whose team hasn't been relevant in over two decades. My mistake.

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They are relevant now. Oh wait, you're a Lakers fan who witnessed the Celtics kicking their asses all over the court in both meetings this year. My mistake.

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Portland's supposed franchise center has already had microfracture surgery on his knees and he hasn't even played one damn game in the NBA yet. I wouldn't crown them just yet.

Bynum is proven talent as far as I'm concerned. There is a reason why every single NBA analyst, GM, and coach has touted this kid as the best young center prospect in the NBA outside of Dwight Howard.

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Even without Oden, Portland is moving very quickly past LA with their roster. What about Kobe? The clock is ticking and his "Franchise Center" dislocated his kneecap - out for two months? The current collection of players in LA outside of Kobe is OK, but nothing to be afraid of.

The Lakers have gone past the first round of the playoffs once in the past five years. Sorry Faker fans. Not your decade.

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Originally Posted by bostonguy

They are relevant now. You should know that after the way they kicked your asses in both meetings this year.

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LOL it only took you 20+ years and an ex-Celtic GM to get you there! At least we've managed to be a relevant team the whole way through. The Lakers have the highest winning percentage of any NBA team in history. We've been THE team since the 1970's, Boston got all their rings when there were only 12 or so teams in the league.

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

LOL it only took you 20+ years and an ex-Celtic GM to get you there! At least we've managed to be a relevant team the whole way through. The Lakers have the highest winning percentage of any NBA team in history. We've been THE team since the 1970's, Boston got all their rings when there were only 12 or so teams in the league.

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and when Doctors and Lawyers bought their sons a spot on the teams. :lol

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Originally Posted by Harry Callahan

Even without Oden, Portland is moving very quickly past them with their roster. What about Kobe? The clock is ticking and his "Franchise Center" dislocated his kneecap - out for two months? The current collection of players in LA outside of Kobe is OK, but nothing to be afraid of.

The Lakers have gone past the first round of the playoffs once in the past five years. Sorry. Not your decade bud.

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Right because Tim Duncan has never gone down with an injury. Injuries are a part of life, and Bynum' setback will not cost him down the line. He will recover completely from it and could come back earlier than 8 weeks.

You really are an idiot. Franchise center + Best player in the NBA = championship team. Or maybe you forgot about Shaq & Kobe.

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Originally Posted by Harry Callahan

Even without Oden, Portland is moving very quickly past LA with their roster. What about Kobe? The clock is ticking and his "Franchise Center" dislocated his kneecap - out for two months? The current collection of players in LA outside of Kobe is OK, but nothing to be afraid of.

The Lakers have gone past the first round of the playoffs once in the past five years. Sorry Faker fans. Not your decade.

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Kobe's only 29 too you moron. He will be an effective player like Jordan was into his late 30's. He doesn't need his athleticism to dominate the game.

I would be a lot more impressed with the Lakers and the future if they were developing a PG instead of the archaic Fisher. Fact is they will only go as far as Kobe lets him and historically big men like Duncan play longer and better than even athletic swing men. Plus wake me when Bynum can defend anyone - shot blocker he is but he is also slow to respond, K. Brown for all his faults is a better defender of Duncan and other bigs. Again, T. Splitter has the potential to be every bit as dominant for Spurs alongside Duncan as Bynum can be on the Lakers with the mentally
soft Odom beside him.

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Originally Posted by Rummpd

I would be a lot more impressed with the Lakers and the future if they were developing a PG instead of the archaic Fisher. Fact is they will only go as far as Kobe lets him and historically big men like Duncan play longer and better than even athletic swing men. Plus wake me when Bynum can defend anyone - shot blocker he is but he is also slow to respond, K. Brown for all his faults is a better defender of Duncan and other bigs. Again, T. Splitter has the potential to be every bit as dominant for Spurs alongside Duncan as Bynum can be on the Lakers with the mentally
soft Odom beside him.

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Jordan Farmar maybe?

Please, you obviously have not followed Bynum this season. Kwame can't get back his starting position because Bynum controls the paint. He was playing excellent defense before injury.

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Originally Posted by Rummpd

I would be a lot more impressed with the Lakers and the future if they were developing a PG instead of the archaic Fisher. Fact is they will only go as far as Kobe lets him and historically big men like Duncan play longer and better than even athletic swing men. Plus wake me when Bynum can defend anyone - shot blocker he is but he is also slow to respond, K. Brown for all his faults is a better defender of Duncan and other bigs. Again, T. Splitter has the potential to be every bit as dominant for Spurs alongside Duncan as Bynum can be on the Lakers with the mentally
soft Odom beside him.

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LOL do you even follow basketball? Jordan Farmar and Javaris Crittenton are both excellent PG prospects the Lakers are grooming to take over when Fisher is done.

Bynum's defense has improved by leaps and bounds, and he was already better than Kwame before he went down. In the last 10-15 games he played he was literally averaging over 3-4 blocks a game. And it's not just about blocks, his presence in the lane is an intimidation factor towards penetrating guards and he alters many shots that he doesn't block.

Tiago Splitter hasn't proved shit in the NBA, Bynum has. Until he does then you can't make that argument.

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

LOL it only took you 20+ years and an ex-Celtic GM to get you there! At least we've managed to be a relevant team the whole way through. The Lakers have the highest winning percentage of any NBA team in history. We've been THE team since the 1970's, Boston got all their rings when there were only 12 or so teams in the league.

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:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao The days of Domique Wilkins in his decline, Antoine Walker, Rodney Rodgers. Sadly that is true. We were a laughing stock for some time. Hell other than this past summer, beating the Bulls on opening night in 97 and going to the ECF with that shitty roster in 2002 were the high moments the past 10 years.

Absolutely stupid fucking thread.

No team, in any sport, has won more than the SA SPURS over the last decade. Period!

So, the TEAM of the last decade is the SPURS. No contest, no debate...fact.

Now, if you want to figure out the team of the 2000-2010 Decade...bring it up in 2010!

Christ...rofl

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Kobe's only 29 too you moron. He will be an effective player like Jordan was into his late 30's. He doesn't need his athleticism to dominate the game.

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I am not a moron - you are. Andrew Bynum is a decent, developing player, but he is NOT there yet. He is NOT a dominating player. He also has an element of immaturity and flakiness as well. By the time he "gets it" - Bryant MAY no longer be a dominant player.

Bryant has been playing huge minutes since he was 18 or 19 years old - it is entirely possible Kobes' legs break down on him much sooner than Jordan's did, who entered the NBA at 21. That's an extra three years of wear and tear on his body. Hasn't Kobe had surgery on his knees and ankles several times in the last three or four off seasons?

Remember back in the summer, Bryant wanted to leave your beloved Lakers. He can opt still out after next year if he wants to. You must be Dazed and Confused if you think Bryant does not need his hops and explosiveness to be effective.

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Originally Posted by bostonguy

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao The days of Domique Wilkins in his decline, Antoine Walker, Rodney Rodgers. Sadly that is true. We were a laughing stock for some time. Hell other than this past summer, beating the Bulls on opening night in 97 and going to the ECF with that shitty roster in 2002 were the high moments the past 10 years.

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Cheer up you have a team that is good enough to make the NBA Finals for the next 3-4 years. You also have the Red Sox and Patriots. Life is good in Boston.

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Cheer up you have a team that is good enough to make the NBA Finals for the next 3-4 years. You also have the Red Sox and Patriots. Life is good in Boston.

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Oh I know that. I just laugh and remember those times. I cant hate Ainge for making these moves even if it means a short 3-4 year window. If he didnt make these moves, we would still be a below average team.

Kenny Anderson :lmao

IF the Celts had gotten lucky in the 97 draft, we might have seen Lakers/Celts rivalry renewed during the 2000's. But instead we drafted Billups.



Ron Mercer :lmao :lmao :lmao

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Instead of calling me confused point out where you think I"m wrong.

It's a fact the Spurs team is old getting older. Players lose effectiveness as they age and health issues start to come up. We've already seen each of the big 3 go down this season with injuries. Who is waiting in the wings to take over? You have no real young promising talent outside of Tony Parker, and you can't build championship teams around a PG.

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well, technically they are older. they are .3 years older than last season. but they pretty much have been the same age since the start of the 2004-05 season (above 30, below 31).

yes, players eventually lose their effectiveness. michael jordan didnt play as well his last two season. but you didnt actually say who lost their effectiveness. there is nothing to dispute here.

spurs big three have had injuries. yes. maybe tim duncan was losing his effectiveness in 1998 when he was injured against the jazz in the playoffs. or maybe injuries happen to players of any age and you dont have anything here.

and you say they have no promising young talent outside tony parker. i dont know what is "promising" and what is not. spurs have several young players dying to play for the spurs and one or two or three might turn out to be as good as say... bynum. just because they stash their players in d-league and overseas means nothing. they have been successful doing that before.

sorry, i was just playing on your name.

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Originally Posted by Harry Callahan

I am not a moron - you are. Andrew Bynum is a decent, developing player, but he is NOT there yet. He is NOT a dominating player. He also has an element of immaturity and flakiness as well. By the time he "gets it" - Bryant MAY no longer be a dominant player.

Bryant has been playing huge minutes since he was 18 or 19 years old - it is entirely possible Kobes' legs break down on him much sooner than Jordan's did, who entered the NBA at 21. That's an extra three years of wear and tear on his body. Hasn't Kobe had surgery on his knees and ankles several times in the last three or four off seasons?

Remember back in the summer, Bryant wanted to leave your beloved Lakers. He can opt still out after next year if he wants to. You must be Dazed and Confused if you think Bryant does not need his hops and explosiveness to be effective.

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When you lead the league in FG% and are 2nd in dunks only to Dwight Howard you ARE there. When you are in the top 10 in rebounding and blocks you ARE there. Bynum has arrived, clearly to the dismay of fans around the league. He's going to dominate this league for years to come, and the scariest thing of all is he is only 20 years old. When Bynum bulks up even more and really develops into his athletic potential nobody will be able to contain him on the block. 7 ft centers with his length, athleticism, footwork, speed, soft hands and touch, and willingness to learn don't grow on trees. He's also being tutored by the best Center of all time in the NBA, KAJ.

The Lakers hit a homerun out of the park when they drafted this kid.

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The SPURS are far and away much better than the Lakers. Hands down. They had a 3-peat. Big F'in Deal! What have they done since then!? Oh, thats right NOTHING! Yes, the spurs have not repeated, but have they missed the playoffs like your lakers? And that year that they did make it to the finals, what happened? they got utterly embarassed by the pistons. The same pistons that the spurs beat!

So for what its worth, you can take your 3-peat and hold on to it for dear life, cuz thats the only memory of a title you will have!

The "*" '99-championship doesnt need an *...everyone played the exact same amount of games the spurs played; the spurs just were the ones that played the best. Besides, if ANY team has showed that they come on strong, if not stronger, towards the end of a season, its has been the Spurs!

Let it go....until you actually win again or even make it deep into the playoffs, you have no fodder for your pathetic fire.

Build a bridge..................and get over the fact that your team WAS good.

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

LOL it only took you 20+ years and an ex-Celtic GM to get you there! At least we've managed to be a relevant team the whole way through. The Lakers have the highest winning percentage of any NBA team in history. We've been THE team since the 1970's, Boston got all their rings when there were only 12 or so teams in the league.

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And the competition couldn't even make it as Accountants today. :stirpot:

Earlier today when Purple and Gold heard Gasol was traded to the Lakers.
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Purple and Gold to wife: "Honey, where did I pack the Laker car flags?"

Wife to Purple and Gold: "I don't know honey. It's been years since we packed those away."

As he rummages through boxes of christmas decorations and old Raider gear, he finds his threepeat car flag.

"Nevermind. I found it." He places his Laker carflag proudly on his white mini-van as championship dreams dances through his head.

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Keep on dreamin, Lakerfan.

FTL!