Its a foul to slap the ball away?
Thats a new one.
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Its a foul to slap the ball away?
Thats a new one.
wade was raped on that last play, but i guess it was a make up for when tony got raped last week and they weren't calling it
Anyone else think it's a little ironic that Wade is arguing for a no-call?
he was raped?
So duncan and Oberto standing hands up and Bowen slapping the ball away constitutes a rape?
Hilarious.
I'm here.
Do you think the game would've been as close if, say, Stephen Jackson or even Hedo Turkoglu was scoring points for the Spurs as the starting SF?
Question.
Late in the fourth quarter, all I kept thinking about was Bruce's defense on Wade. It was the best I've seen from Bruce in a while. That's the best you can ask for. Great job by him.
The Spurs were tired obviously. It showed in their offense. They were laying up brick after brick. It has nothing to do with Bruce not scoring 15 + points.
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Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
That's true, we might have won this game by a bigger margin and been well on our way to Championship #3.
To win an NBA game, you need to outscore the other team.
If Bowen holds his man to 25 pts., but only scores 10, it's not as good as someone holding his man to 30 pts., but scoring 20.
Capiche?
How many 20 ppg SFs are available?
And how many shots does it take to get 25 against Bowen vs. 30 against Mike Dunleavy?
Agree. That defense for 5-6 seconds almost at the 3 pt line was superb. He just couldnt do shit and had to shoot horribly - ball bounced off the rim and nobody was around for the rebound. That and the fact they guessed Wade would go for the layup in the last play sealed the victory IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
And the final layup by Ginobili, how many times have we asked for something like that from Manu in the last seconds of a game? It finally happened. He can't be contested when he does that. Period.
Good point. Very good. However, the Spurs have Manu, Tim, and Tony do handle the scoring load. There's only one basketball to go around anyways. The Spurs don't really need a small forward who can score. They are very good with a small forward who is one of the best if not the best at guarding the oponent's best scoring option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
I would love for Bruce to be able to score 10-15 points a night, but you can't have it all. I'm sure the Lakers would love to have a PG who can score and defend like Chris Paul. I'm sure the Nets would love a power forward or center who could score like Duncan, but they don't.
Spurm:
How many 20 ppg SFs are available?
Stephen Jackson, Hedo Turkoglu... how many are we gonna let go?
And how many shots does it take to get 25 against Bowen vs. 30 against Mike Dunleavy?
That's irrelevant. Bowen does make anyone work at all to defend him. I argue that his presence allows defenses to sag.
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Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
Shooting percentage is irrelevant? That's a new one.
And if you recall, when Hedo and Jack were here, Bowen started alongside them.
It is irrelevant.
All that matters is points scored.
Bowen doesn't shut his man down enough to justify his lack of scoring.
As evidenced by all of those Golden State and Phoenix titles.Quote:
All that matters is points scored.
Don't be obtuse.
Score more points and you win.
Right or wrong?
That doesn't mean you don't defend.
But don't act like slowing a guy down and not scoring is better than giving up a few more points, but scoring an adequate amount, too.
Bottom line:
Bowen should be used situationally as a stopper off the bench.
He does not make his man work on the other end.
And he allows defenses to play off him when the Spurs have the ball.
As a team, the Spurs are 9th in the NBA in FG% and 4th in 3pt FG%. There's not much room to improve on the offensive end.
If you want to improve on offense, you upgrade your peripheral players that take shots... your Finleys and your Barrys. Replacing Bruce Bowen with another scorer downgrades your defense (which already isn't very good this year), and likely diverts shots from Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. Unless we're talking about a top tier All-Star here, that's probably not a net gain.
Honestly, if this team needs anything right now, it's a legitimate shot blocker. I don't see how anyone can be so concerned with what the Spurs are doing offensively when it's clear that what is separating us right now from Spurs Champions of the past is the defensive efficiency.
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
What do the Spurs rank in scoring?
15th, but that's irrelevant. Where did they rank last year? 2005? 2003? 1999?
They're 5th in scoring differential. That IS relevant.
That is a wrong argument there. They're not playing 1 on 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
And it is not always the points you score that constitutes a basketball game. Lot of factors. I know you know that.
C'mon.
Let's see...
In 33 minutes he was 2 for 6 from the floor with 7 points. 1 assist, 1 steal, 0 rebounds, 1 turnover, and 3 fouls.
Yeah, he's killin the haters! :rolleyes
:lol
The first game of Oct. he held your boy Brandon Roy to 2-10 shooting for 7 points and in December he held Roy to 1-9 shooting for 4 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by tlongII
It's just comical to me that the Bowen Blowers® ejaculate every time his man doesn't score or make a play.
I would rather give extended minutes to a player that can contribute on both ends of the floor.
Use Bowen as a situational stopper at this point in his career.
His numbers are disgusting, by the way.