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I would like Bowen to score more points night in and night out, but its not gonna happen and the Spurs have been pretty darn successful having it like that. Udoka could be that guy you're talking about, but I'd feel more comfortable having Bowen on the floor when it comes time to stopping someone. I don't think Udoka swipes the ball from Wades hands last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
Yeah that Hedo was such a clutch shooter when he played for the Spurs too.
I agree with that MoSpur.
Bring in Bowen off the bench when you need to slow a scorer down or need a stop.
So what happens if the scorer gets hot at the beginning of the game thanks to not having Bowen on him to start the game?
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Didn't we have this same argument about Bowen 4 years ago?
Bowen also is borderline dirty, high leg kicks and extending his legs under players as they jump or to trip them up. He is so limited offensively he has to push the limit to dirty play just to stay in the league.
Its better to get a replacement sooner than later before Bowen is worthless on both ends.
Yeah and you guys lost that arguement after his performances in 03, 05, 07Quote:
Didn't we have this same argument about Bowen 4 years ago?
yet your still spouting the same BS.
Benching Bowen makes a ton of sense. A team who's calling card is defense should definitely bench their best defender.
i agree with this. i'd like to see udoka log a few more more minutes per game to keep bowen fresher. bowen does a good job now and his stamina at his age amazes me...but i think we need to limit his minutes so he can come in at key periods of the game and just lock mofos down (like last night) and to keep him fresher for the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoSpur
Don't be dummies.
You bring Bowen in if a scorer heats up.
When you need a stop, you sub for him.
And please don't act like Bowen proved anything more than the Spurs were good enough to win without his offense in the past.
Ghost Writer: Sun Fan. :depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
I'm okay with giving more minutes to Udoka.
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Originally Posted by Ghost Writer
that's just it - you start Bowen to keep the other team's best scorer from scoring or at least slow him down and make them adjust. That's part of being a great defensive team. Does us no good if we don't get that done and yet get 15 more points out of someone else instead.
Amare scores > than Tim.
Marion scores >> than Bruce.
Nash scores ~ Manu
Barbosa scores ~ Parker
Hill scores >> anybody else on the Spurs
Spurs are doomed.
Is Ghost Ric Bucher???
Exactly.Quote:
Didn't we have this same argument about Bowen 4 years ago?
Bowen's time will come. But I haven't seen anything this year to suggest he needs to be benched.
Time for what? To be applauded for shaving a couple points off his man's season average, yet not contributing on offense?
What about the part where his man gets to rest instead of guarding Bowen?
Sub him.
I see the pros and cons of benching Bowen and I'd rather start Bowen than Udoka or anyone for that matter. Bowen is just a different kind of beast. I'm glad he starts. I'm glad he finished the game last night.
Bowen should be in at the end of games when the spurs need a defensive stop. But they should have another stronger offensive option for other times during the game at sf.
Bowen should be used as a change of pace substitute.
I like D Wilkins as a young sf option with scoring ability.
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Kay.
Good to have you back, Ghost and Me-Too.
At his age, I think it is time to consider transitioning Bruce to a situational role. He only has value for the Spurs in games they're winning or close. If they're down 10+ then you can't even have him out there.
I see nothing wrong in putting him in a "closer" role defensively the way we use Manu offensively. Udoka is already a pretty decent defender and Bowen can really be a monster defensively if we let him be fresh and limit his minutes. I think a part of why he was so good against Wade in the final minutes was because he didn't play a whole lot vs. LA.
Also, there is a lot to be said about other teams' stars being allowed to rest on defense with Bowen out there. Every time we play the Suns, Nash gets a 20 second vacation on the other end of the court. When Bruce is on the bench, then Stevie can't guard anybody we put out there and we can abuse him.
Pardon us for thinking and telling the truth.
We recognize Bowen's value...
... and his limitations.
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I like D Wilkins as a young sf option with scoring ability
Wilkins is a fucking stiff.
Of course this is the same genius who wanted to trade Manu for Vince fucking Carter.
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Pardon us for thinking and telling the truth.
We recognize Bowen's value
No you don't.
Or else you wouldn't be hanging on to this piece of shit arguement.
Very good post. This clarifys some of the logic behind limiting Bowens minutes and beginning to groom a young future replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by roycrikside
Well said, roycrikside.
T Park also believes there were Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Sub Bowen. Use him as a situational stopper. Groom someone else.
ask the Suns how that worked out for em in Game 5 last year in the playoffs.Quote:
Every time we play the Suns, Nash gets a 20 second vacation on the other end of the court. When Bruce is on the bench, then Stevie can't guard anybody we put out there and we can abuse him.