Udoka Ejection

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Originally Posted by td4mvp21

I wish he would kept shut, but who know that ref would take on the persona of the Jazz players/crowd and go into bitch pms mode? I love Udoka, he is a tough guy. Did you see him lay Kirilenko the fuck out? That bitch just laid there while Udoka stood over him and talked shit. That was fucking good to see, I'm glad someone on this team has some balls.

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Yep someone has to step up for this team cause we're letting other teams push us around.

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

That's what I reckon.

Bruce/Mike, doesn't matter, bench one of them for Ime, but also play him with the second unit at times. Just get him on the floor, and lots!

We may be seeing the end of Bowen's effective career this season... very sad.

If only we could combine the following pairs of players into one, we'd have a super-deep team:

Fin/Bruce
Rob/Bonner
Fab/Fran

Unfortunately, at the moment individually they are sucking it up... :depressed

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Bowen is still playing pretty damn good D on most nights. His shot is just off. He loses it at some point every year. Last year he lost it Dec-Feb if I remember correctly.

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We may be seeing the end of Bowen's effective career this season

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:lol

Yeah I guess you missed his defense in that 4th quarter.

But keep buying into that flawed and BS thinking

If it was the Playoffs, I would say it was stupid and unnecessary. Since it's still January, I think it's a good thing.
He didn't back down from Boozer on the Double T and then he called out AK47 for trying to flop on Manu's Free Throw.
In the big picture, I think this is the kind of thing that can bring some toughness to the Spurs - something we desperately need.

Bowen got beat down the court on a regular basis tonight and was mostly ineffective in his pestering D.

I'm nowhere near saying he's done, but he has struggled in some recent games keeping up his defensive intensity.

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Originally Posted by PHAT TONY

Two techs = automatic ejection....so you're arguing semantics.

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No I am not. Some people thought he got ejected for one thing he did at that moment and did not realize he already had a technical. They wondered what he did so awful to warrant an ejection. It was not one thing- it was two separate things and 2 different instances.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Bowen is still playing pretty damn good D on most nights. His shot is just off.

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correction, his shot is way, way off. same as horry's and bonner's . damn. I'm surprised we actually competitive at this point

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Originally Posted by nkdlunch

correction, his shot is way, way off. same as horry's and bonner's . damn. I'm surprised we actually competitive at this point

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I believe last year he went something like six weeks where he shot 15% from 3 or something like that. I'm used to Bowen slumping badly at points every season. I'm not sure why other Spurs fans aren't used to it :lol

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Yep someone has to step up for this team cause we're letting other teams push us around.

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Pop still has not pulled out the "soft" speech.

Spurs fans act like these shooting slumps and losing streaks are all brand new.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Spurs fans act like these shooting slumps and losing streaks are all brand new.

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Well this kind of losing is pretty new. The Spurs haven't looked this bad on an ongoing basis in years.

What do you think about starting Ime Kori???

I'd like to know your thoughts on it. I prefer Micahel to be benched. Bruce still plays good D most nights. Fin not so much. Spurs need consistency in the starting lineup. Manu having to carry too much of a load off the bench.

long time lurker here, but i felt the need to register after udoka's ejection....


Ime became a spur tonight. with passion. with intensity. i liked it. he wants to win here. he knows he can!


its all good :smokin

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Well this kind of losing is pretty new. The Spurs haven't looked this bad on an ongoing basis in years.

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yup. that's why I said 2-7 in this road trip. at best.

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Originally Posted by nkdlunch

yup. that's why I said 2-7 in this road trip. at best.

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I know everyone is frustrated, but you can't toss in the towel now. GOT TO keep fighting. I think a few tweaks will get us going again with out even having to make a trade. Maybe a minor trade. Also, I'd take a long hard look at Stoudamire right about now, if Tony is hurting that much.

Pop HATES players getting ejected. It's not a laughing matter with Pop.

To Pop, keeping your cool in the face of adversity is huge. I remember in 1998 Monty Williams was playing well and playing a decent amount of minutes. He lost his cool and got ejected (IIRC against the Lakers) and then Pop took him out of the rotation and never played him again. Even Glenn Robinson was playing pretty regularly in the playoffs until he picked up a couple technicals and then Pop stopped playing him.

This was a major F up by Udoka. Some coaches like the "passion". However, Pop's whole mantra is too stay level headed and chip away at the rock. I guarantee that Udoka is getting an ear full right now.

We'll see if Pop cuts back Udoka's minutes in coming games. Udoka's lucky Barry is injured because Pop doesn't really have a choice but to play Udoka.

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Even Glenn Robinson was playing pretty regularly in the playoffs until he picked up a couple technicals and then Pop stopped playing him.

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Game 4 vs Seattle.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Pop HATES players getting ejected. It's not a laughing matter with Pop.

To Pop, keeping your cool in the face of adversity is huge. I remember in 1998 Monty Williams was playing well and playing a decent amount of minutes. He lost his cool and got ejected (IIRC against the Lakers) and then Pop took him out of the rotation and never played him again. Even Glenn Robinson was playing pretty regularly in the playoffs until he picked up a couple technicals and then Pop stopped playing him.

This was a major F up by Udoka. Some coaches like the "passion". However, Pop's whole mantra is too stay level headed and chip away at the rock. I guarantee that Udoka is getting an ear full right now.

We'll see if Pop cuts back Udoka's minutes in coming games. Udoka's lucky Barry is injured because Pop doesn't really have a choice but to play Udoka.

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Exactly

or maybe Pop right now is soft and the next game Ime is a starter

but i think he deserves a spot in the doghouse

I can't imagine Pop getting upset with Ime. And if Pop does then he would be sending the wrong message. The team needs intensity in the worst way. Tim and Manu played well enough to win. Tony's slump is getting ridiculous. The Big 3 is a Big 2 right now until Tony gets his quickness back. His flailing is painful to watch as a Spurs fan. He looks like the ghost of Tony future out there. I felt like we played better with Jacque than Tony for large stretches. I would love to see the plus/minus on that one. But back to Ime - he adds rebounding, scoring, and defense. What's not to like? Neither Bruce nor Finley can offer more than one of those things right now.

As for the tech, who is to say it was even warranted? The Jazz are an odd bunch of tough players and total cream puffs. No wonder Ime was getting pissed. He gets hammered by Harpring and Boozer and then has to watch Korver and AK47 flop. At least the Spurs players who flop are also tough-minded (Manu, Oberto, Bowen.)

This game might be an unlikely spark to get the team going. Horry looked like a living person for the first time all year. He didn't score but got angry a bunch and that seemed to snap him back into reality.

Bonner doesn't have the right kind of intensity. I remember Tim yelling at him to remember a certain play call/hand signal. I hope he turns it around and proves he can hang.

But like everyone, I can only wonder what happens next. The team could go on a tear and win the title or get even worse and have to fight for the 8th seed.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Pop HATES players getting ejected. It's not a laughing matter with Pop.

To Pop, keeping your cool in the face of adversity is huge. I remember in 1998 Monty Williams was playing well and playing a decent amount of minutes. He lost his cool and got ejected (IIRC against the Lakers) and then Pop took him out of the rotation and never played him again. Even Glenn Robinson was playing pretty regularly in the playoffs until he picked up a couple technicals and then Pop stopped playing him.

This was a major F up by Udoka. Some coaches like the "passion". However, Pop's whole mantra is too stay level headed and chip away at the rock. I guarantee that Udoka is getting an ear full right now.

We'll see if Pop cuts back Udoka's minutes in coming games. Udoka's lucky Barry is injured because Pop doesn't really have a choice but to play Udoka.

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Well those players are no where near as good as Udoka. We really need Udoka. DO you want to throw the whole season away over an ejection in freaking JANUARY????? If Pop does he needs to be fired.

Ime definitely deserves an earful, but he CANNOT be benched permanently because of it. If he does it again lock him away and throw the away the key, but Pop can't do it for one stuff up early in January.

Would Pop do that with Rasheed if he had him. Pop really has to look at the situation very carefully this time.

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Originally Posted by The Truth #6

I can't imagine Pop getting upset with Ime. And if Pop does then he would be sending the wrong message. The team needs intensity in the worst way.

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+1 This team needs to push back when pushed.

Right before he got tossed Ak flops after a free throw attempt. And Ime is barking at him. " Get yo ass up bitch!". classic... :lol

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Originally Posted by T Park

Spurs fans act like these shooting slumps and losing streaks are all brand new.

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Who said anything about shooting slumps? The Spurs look like ass, have for a couple of weeks, even when you factor in their typical winter slumps of years past.

Lots of work to do for this team right now, no matter what the homers say.

I personally like Ime's fire. However, that's not how Pop thinks. Udoka getting ejected in that situation goes against everything Pop preaches.

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Originally Posted by Ice009

What do you think about starting Ime Kori???

I'd like to know your thoughts on it. I prefer Micahel to be benched. Bruce still plays good D most nights. Fin not so much. Spurs need consistency in the starting lineup. Manu having to carry too much of a load off the bench.

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I have been saying for about a week now that I think Ime will start over Fin soon.