Trade Elson for....

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Originally Posted by tav1

Bruno, with all due respect, and I mean that sincerely, this front court is much worse than in past years. Horry's game is greatly diminished, Elson misses more rotations than he makes, Oberto is lifeless right now and Bonner can not find a niche.

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I don't give a fuck to what the frontcourt does in January. What is important is what he does during the playoffs.
This year frontcourt is the same one that was solid during last playoffs.
I'm confident that Oberto will be very solid this year. He is a big game guy and looked as lifeless last January than this January.
Horry is a kind of mystery, nobody knows if he will turn it on this year. Horry was very good in 05 and 07 but sucked in 04 and 06. If he turns it on, Spurs will be fine with a main rotation of Duncan/Oberto/Horry.
If Horry sucks in the playoffs this year, Spurs have some alternate solution with Bonner and Elson. It won't be as good as a good Horry but I think that Bonner can give you some qualities minutes with his energy and shooting touch. Elson wasn't that bad last year as end of the bench guy during the playoffs.

In 04, Spurs bigs were horrible by fully diseaspearing against Lakers.
In 05, Spurs' frontcourt was good but not great. Horry was very good but Nazr was quite incosnsitent.
In 06, Spurs frontcourt was horrible by his inability to match up with Dallas.

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Originally Posted by tav1

I'd gladly take Nesterovic or Scola over any of those guys.

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Scola has never been a Spurs.
and :lmao on Rasho. I like Rasho, he is a good guy and has a lot of fundamentals but he sucks when playoffs time comes.
Oberto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rasho.

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Originally Posted by tav1

And Udoka is a tough defender, but small ball is going to win a championship if he is at the 4.

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You have certain matchups when you have to play small.
Spurs win number 4 with small ball.

Elson has a lot of potential. Personally I don't think the Spurs utilize his strengths nearly enough, and he ends up looking like he sucks.

i agree somewhat that the Spurs would have to change into more of an uptempo team to get the most out of him, and that's what I thought his signing actually signaled. I guess it's true to an extent but Pop makes it happen by going small rather than playing Elson. Apparently we still need Derrick McKey.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

You can't send Elson in the D-League. Only players in their first or second year can be send down in D-League.

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I forgot aboout that rule, shoot. He sure doesn't play like a veteran alot of the times. He has potential, but soooo inconsistent it is nerve racking.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

In 04, Spurs bigs were horrible by fully diseaspearing against Lakers.

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Rasho did a good job on Shaq in that series-- even his haters were praising him. Unfortunately, Malik was already in the doghouse because he always did a good job on Shaq, as well. The Spurs lost to the Lakers because Tony couldn't get into the lane and nobody-- Hedo, Manu, Bruce-- could make an outside shot. To claim they were horrible because the Spurs did not win a title that year shows just how little you actually know. The Spurs SURVIVED with Oberto last year because they got lucky and did not have to play certain teams.

I laugh at all the Oberto praise- because last year about this time people on this site claimed he was the WORST starting center in the whole NBA! :lol

This is exactly what I've been talking about the entire time. The reason that I think they signed Cisco was to have a guy that can run the floor and play at an uptemo pace, but the Spurs are cancelling that by going small. I don't see that working out at all, and as a result, everybody bashes Elson because it makes him seem like he sucks. In a half court offense, Elson would be a contributor by cutting, slashing, and doing little things. He is a much better shooter than most of you give him credit for. I think in the right situation he can be a good player but Pop hasn't given him that opporitunity.