I'm getting sick of this hack a shaq BS...

Snaq missing free throws is a poor substitute for scoring points.

Fuck him.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

Baseball deserves no mention with basketball. The game has been so tainted by the use of steroids that it's ruined the nature of the sport.

Hacking Shaq is a poor substitute for good team defense.

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Whatever. Hitting your free throws would render this argument moot. Blame Shaq for not hitting them, not the Spurs for taking advantage of this weakness.

Hack a Bowen used to be a tactic employed by other team in past playoff series. If there's a weakness, exploit it.

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Originally Posted by Strike

Winning is the right way.

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Not really no. Steroids can give an edge to a player in most sports, so winning isn't the measuring stick by itself if the measuring stick can be bent. Merely winning without rules and a spirit of the game is meaningless. It ceases to be a sport and is just about who can exploit the rules better.

Are we beating the Suns down because of hack a shaq? No most definetely not. But we cheapened the game tonight by denying the Suns a chance to play their offense against our defense for a pretty damn crucial period of this game.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

Playing defense takes effort, Otherwise everyone would magically be able to force Manu to go right. Hack a Shaq takes zero energy and effort. It's BS. It's like cheering for the special olympic kid to make his free throws.

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It takes zero effort for Shaq to back someone down with his fat ass and then turn and dunk, but I don't see you on here crying about that or begging for it to be outlawed.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

Not really no. Steroids can give an edge to a player in most sports, so winning isn't the measuring stick by itself if the measuring stick can be bent. Merely winning without rules and a spirit of the game is meaningless. It ceases to be a sport and is just about who can exploit the rules better.

Are we beating the Suns down because of hack a shaq? No most definetely not. But we cheapened the game tonight by denying the Suns a chance to play their offense against our defense for a pretty damn crucial period of this game.

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i was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt...are you really a spurs fan???

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

and you had to respect Shaq's shoulder lowering game.

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You just offered the textbook definition of a charge. I rest my case.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

We cheapened the game tonight by denying the Suns a chance to play their offense against our defense for a pretty damn crucial period of this game.

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Ok, how about Pop pulls duncan so the Suns have a CHANCE. Or maybe the Spurs just stop rebounding altogether. You know, so the Suns have a CHANCE. Or how about the Spurs just forfeit the next two games. Just so the Suns have a CHANCE!

Are you a closet Suns fan? Good Christ! I can't believe you would even defend Snaq's fat overrated ass!

Take your ass over to phxsuns.net

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

It takes zero effort for Shaq to back someone down with his fat ass and then turn and dunk, but I don't see you on here crying about that or begging for it to be outlawed.

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I did when he used to do it against DRob/ Malik/ Rasho/ etc. in his day. Shaq has gotten away with more offensive fouls in a single series against the Spurs than most players have in a career.

But don't let that stop you from cheering the exploitation of the rules....Make no mistake it is taking an advantage of a rule designed to be a deterrent/ reward.

I hope the NBA fixes it, because it is bad basketball.

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Originally Posted by VaSpursFan

i was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt...are you really a spurs fan???

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Need to see my ticket stub from the memorial day miracle?

I'm glad the Spurs won, and Tony played a hell of a game. It was a good win overall, but I hope we don't run into another poor ft shooting team in these playoffs. It's shit to watch when we hack a player to avoid having to play defense.

How is it exploitation of the rules? How would it be any different than fouling him as he goes up to shoot and making him shoot FTs instead of letting him get a dunk or a layup?

Maybe we should outlaw the pick and roll too, because Shaq's fat ass couldn't handle that either, and clearly that wasn't fair to the Suns defense that we exploited their D like that at a key time in the game, right?

You sound like a friggin' Suns fan. Or D'Antoni.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

I hope the NBA fixes it, because it is bad basketball.

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What the fuck? Are you that fucking dense? What part of GOOD basketball involves NEVER developing a shot outside of 6 feet? Hell, even STAT has that! Yao Ming a guy with bigger hands than Shaq can hit from range!

How the FUCK is shooting 50% at the fucking FREE THROW LINE GOOD FUCKING BASKETBALL?

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

I did when he used to do it against DRob/ Malik/ Rasho/ etc. in his day. Shaq has gotten away with more offensive fouls in a single series against the Spurs than most players have in a career.

But don't let that stop you from cheering the exploitation of the rules....Make no mistake it is taking an advantage of a rule designed to be a deterrent/ reward.

I hope the NBA fixes it, because it is bad basketball.

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this is silly. people strategically exploit gaps in rules all the time whether it's basketball or corporate america. the way to prevent you from getting your ass handed to you is to become proficient at that weakness...i.e., snaq practicing his free throws.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

I'm getting sick of this hack a shaq BS. Honestly, it's been played out....And I agree the rules need to be changed if any nba team can use a deficiency of one great player to dominate all the momentum.

It's unreal that Spurs fans are advocating so hard for doing this. I loved it in choice moments in the first game but this is just ridiculous...It's bad for the game to make hack-an-anybody a go to defensive mode. This might just ruin what was an epic series for me.

The Spurs have always been about winning the right way. That is how it should be, not like this.

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Dude seriously......freethrows are the easiest shot in the game besides a layup......hell, it may even be easier because noone can contest it. You have to learn to shoot free throws if you want to play basketball. Defending Shaq is just dumb. Learn how to play basketball before you open your pie hole next time.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

How the FUCK is shooting 50% at the fucking FREE THROW LINE GOOD FUCKING BASKETBALL?

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I agree completely, however it's not any better basketball to foul said player to avoid playing defense.

Trust me Despurado...this is the one and only team we'll be hacking. No other team we could face has a player with such a glaring weakness at FT shooting. There's Ben Wallace, but the Cavs aren't getting out of the East.

I dont understand the whining......this is basketball, you exploit the other teams weakness.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

Need to see my ticket stub from the memorial day miracle?

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And? I'm sure there's a Blazers fan or two with a ticket stub from that game.

It's not exploitation. It's strategy. But if you want the Suns to have a CHANCE to win, give Pop a call. I'm sure he'll take time out of his day to listen to you.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

How is it exploitation of the rules? How would it be any different than fouling him as he goes up to shoot and making him shoot FTs instead of letting him get a dunk or a layup?

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It is an exploitation of the rules in that in that free throws were explicitly created as a penalty to prevent body contact that would otherwise disrupt a good shot.

A penalty that has been expanded to include the use of time management in a close game. But taking what was first instated as a penalty and using that to not have to play defense is an obvious exploitation.

I hated it back when other teams hacked Bowen or Duncan and I hate it now. It is shit basketball.

Do you really believe--honestly--that the Spurs are trying to avoid playing defense? It may not be the most popular thing to do, but the real problem lies in Snaq's fat hands.

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Originally Posted by jmard5

Pop is making this a mental game. :lol
Poor Shaq. Can't defend the pick 'n roll. Can't shoot free throws. Major exploitation!

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Coach Brown just said that on radio. It's not only the FTs but the way they play after the hack a Shaq

Fine. Go support the Suns.

Give a guy a bagful of money and he complains about the bag. In the name of everything that is holy the Spurs just won a game in dominating fashion and a fan is nitpicking a facet of a beautifully played game. Relax and just enjoy the exhibition of basketball that we just had the privilege of seeing.

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Originally Posted by adam8065

It is a great tactic and it takes the Suns out of their rhythm, but your too stupid to see that.

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No I am remembering 2006 when AJ used hack a Bowen during a crucial stretch against the Spurs that might have cost us the title.

But I guess it's a great strategy :rolleyes ....When the Spurs do it

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Give a guy a bagful of money and he complains about the bag.

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