I'm getting sick of this hack a shaq BS...

Call us Floppers now bitch.

Shaq shouldn't be able to throw is fat ass around either.

This thread is beyond stupid. It's up there with SpursDynasty21 threads. Congrats OP. :toast

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Originally Posted by BonnerDynasty

Call us Floppers now bitch.

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Pass me off as a Suns fan if you want... I'm still rooting for the Spurs.

A real Spurs fan would remember our history with hack a whoever...and not be so quick to cheer its return to these playoffs. Especially while we still need a player like Bowen on the floor if and when we meet the Kobe lead Lakers.

They are free points to be had and he can't take advantage. A similar situation occurs late in a game when teams keep fouling to avoid time been wasted, trying to make a comeback. That's why when the spurs are in that situation they take Bowen out.

This is Shaq's problem and the Suns have to deal with it.

Nobody thought it was a bad ploy when they used to foul Bowen all the time for exactly the same reason--to exploit his weak foul shooting skills. Pop sometimes had to hide him on the bench to counter it.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

Pass me off as a Suns fan if you want... I'm still rooting for the Spurs.

A real Spurs fan would remember our history with hack a whoever...and not be so quick to cheer its return to these playoffs. Especially while we still need a player like Bowen on the floor if and when we meet the Kobe lead Lakers.

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If the Spurs were to lose to such a stupid tactic then they don't deserve to even play in the first place.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

I'm getting sick of this hack a shaq BS. Honestly, it's been played out....And I agree the rules need to be changed if any nba team can use a deficiency of one great player to dominate all the momentum.

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What's the problem brother? Don't be a whiny winner.:lol

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

It isn't tainted for me because the Spurs would have won anyways the way they were playing, but now we are robbed of the opportunity to have the proof of that.

As fans of the game we are seeing a gimmick being used as a go to defense. It's ridiculous and insulting. And it sure as hell isn't in the spirit of the game. Nor is it winning the right way.

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You're looking at it the wrong way if you think this is Pop's defensive plan. It's not even about that anymore. He has employed it while the Spurs were trailing, and while the Spurs were leading. 4th Q, 2nd Q, 1st Q... He's just toying with Shaq now, disrupting Phoenix's offense, keep the Suns guesging. It's a brilliant move because the Suns can't buckle down and toughen up mentally. If they are able to do that, Pop would drop this like a hot potato. But they're playing right into his hands.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

No I am remembering 2006 when AJ used hack a Bowen during a crucial stretch against the Spurs that might have cost us the title.

But I guess it's a great strategy :rolleyes ....When the Spurs do it

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It is a great strategy. We'd be pissed, but it's within the rules.

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Originally Posted by wildbill2u

Nobody thought it was a bad ploy when they used to foul Bowen all the time for exactly the same reason--to exploit his weak foul shooting skills. Pop sometimes had to hide him on the bench to counter it.

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Really not in 2006 and fans were calling for AJ's head when he used it when the Mavs were ahead.

Look I don't even mind Hack a shaq so much as a means of catching up to a team, but using it to avoid playing defense is just weak ass basketball. And the Spurs sure as hell didn't look like the weaker team tonight did they?

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Originally Posted by NASpurs

If the Spurs were to lose to such a stupid tactic then they don't deserve to even play in the first place.

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That's it you're catching on. Who's next that wants to defend this BS?

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

That's it you're catching on. Who's next that wants to defend this BS?

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Exactly it's stupid yet it's effective if the player can't shoot FTs and the coach is an idiot. You seem to have some kind of selective hearing going on here.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

That's it you're catching on. Who's next that wants to defend this BS?

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"You may advance and be absolutely irresistible if you make for the enemy's weak points; you may retire and be safe from pursuit if your movements are more rapid than those of the enemy."

- Sun Tzu

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Originally Posted by carina_gino20

You're looking at it the wrong way if you think this is Pop's defensive plan. It's not even about that anymore. He has employed it while the Spurs were trailing, and while the Spurs were leading. 4th Q, 2nd Q, 1st Q... He's just toying with Shaq now, disrupting Phoenix's offense, keep the Suns guesging. It's a brilliant move because the Suns can't buckle down and toughen up mentally. If they are able to do that, Pop would drop this like a hot potato. But they're playing right into his hands.

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+1...we have a winner!!!

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

Pass me off as a Suns fan if you want... I'm still rooting for the Spurs.

A real Spurs fan would remember our history with hack a whoever...and not be so quick to cheer its return to these playoffs. Especially while we still need a player like Bowen on the floor if and when we meet the Kobe lead Lakers.

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not you, Shaq

my bad :(

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

I'm getting sick of this hack a shaq BS. Honestly, it's been played out....And I agree the rules need to be changed if any nba team can use a deficiency of one great player to dominate all the momentum.

It's unreal that Spurs fans are advocating so hard for doing this. I loved it in choice moments in the first game but this is just ridiculous...It's bad for the game to make hack-an-anybody a go to defensive mode. This might just ruin what was an epic series for me.

The Spurs have always been about winning the right way. That is how it should be, not like this.

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I'm ashamed of this guy using my name for this pieboy post...

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Originally Posted by NASpurs

Exactly it's stupid yet it's effective if the player can't shoot FTs and the coach is an idiot. You seem to have some kind of selective hearing going on here.

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It's a game changing kind of effectiveness. And it's weak sauce especially since the Suns were never able to recover from it in tonight's series deciding game, since no team has ever recovered from down 0-3.

I don't want any part of a Spurs team that ever has to use such a strategy, as anything more than a gimmick. Three straight games in which crucial momentum shifting moments were stifled was weak. It was painful to watch.

Call me a purist, but the game should be played not over burdened with free throws.

I absolutely love the tactic. Pop is psychologically pissing on the entire Suns organization. It doesn't matter if Shaq hits every single one of his free throws, because it completely prevents the three point shooters from getting any momentum at the ends of quarters. Mentally weak teams don't do well having to sit there between periods thinking about how badly they are doing.

Secondly, and allow me to make this very clear: Fuck the Suns. They've had no class for years and can't admit that they lost to a better team. They lobby for suspensions, hurl accusations and blame everyone else for their failures, and I'm sure the Spurs are completely sick of it. They deserve no mercy. Fucking eliminate their asses and move on.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

"You may advance and be absolutely irresistible if you make for the enemy's weak points; you may retire and be safe from pursuit if your movements are more rapid than those of the enemy."

- Sun Tzu

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War is different from a sport...In war the trojan horse is a brilliant plan. In basketball I don't want to see Duncan dressed as the Suns gorilla. :lol On second thought maybe that would be classic.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Secondly, and allow me to make this very clear: Fuck the Suns. They've had no class for years and can't admit that they lost to a better team. They lobby for suspensions, hurl accusations and blame everyone else for their failures, and I'm sure the Spurs are completely sick of it. They deserve no mercy. Fucking eliminate their asses and move on.

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I agree but the Spurs are better a better team/ organization than the Suns in every way. Why stoop when we had their jugular in hand?

All Shaq would have to do is hit 55% (still a pathetic number) from the line to make this strategy unusable.

It's HIS fault (and all his). Not Pop's, not Stern's, not the Refs, and not even D'Antoni's. Shaq is a PROFESSIONAL. And that many people on this board could go out and hit more FTs than him should EMBARRASS him to the point of improving.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

Really not in 2006 and fans were calling for AJ's head when he used it when the Mavs were ahead.

Look I don't even mind Hack a shaq so much as a means of catching up to a team, but using it to avoid playing defense is just weak ass basketball. And the Spurs sure as hell didn't look like the weaker team tonight did they?

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Again, this is not true. You think Pop doesn't trust his defense enough to play it straight up? This is just a mental game Pop is playing. He doesn't care if Shaq makes all of them. He's just toying with them, and it's worked brilliantly.

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Originally Posted by DespЏrado

It's a game changing kind of effectiveness. And it's weak sauce especially since the Suns were never able to recover from it in tonight's series deciding game, since no team has ever recovered from down 0-3.

I don't want any part of a Spurs team that ever has to use such a strategy, as anything more than a gimmick. Three straight games in which crucial momentum shifting moments were stifled was weak. It was painful to watch.

Call me a purist, but the game should be played not over burdened with free throws.

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Wow. What do you want them to do? Allow the Suns to gain some steam? Let them get into a run, out of a crucial game-changing moment? Shouldn't you be happy the Spurs are actually stopping the suns from gaining momentum?

Spurs are up 3-0 i am happy as can be.