The answer is no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuces88
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The answer is no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuces88
No matter how much I love Timmy (and he is my favorite sportsman of all time), I still cannot compare him to Michael Jordan. Tim is great, so great that league and people will realise how big he actually was when he retire... For me, Tim Duncan is big as Russell, as Bird and as Magic were... Jordan? No, not as big as Jordan was.
First Parker>Kobe thread and now TD>MJ thread
Tim is great but how bout HELL no! I've seen him mentally defeated (against the Shaq Lakers, spazzing out during the Detroit series) something Jordan would have never done. Tim is up there as one of the most consistent players ever but he has no title defense. It's one and out, one and out. Even Hakeem had two. Jordan dominated "sports" like never seen before. When it's all said and done we'll see but as of right now dude just stop.
Can we wait and have this discussion after his career is finished??? He is just too young (no matter what people say!!! still in his prime) to make that kind of comparisons at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by remingtonbo2001
I don't think Tim Duncan should be compared to Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan in all his championship runs had only 1 allstar with him (Scottie Pippen)
Tim Duncan has/had Manu Ginobli (2005), Tony Parker (2006,2007), David Robinson,
*Who knows, if Duncan would have won those rings without those players
When Duncan won in 2003, he basically did it by himself. Parker was inconsistent as hell and Duncan was like the only star on the team at that time.
You're forgetting Dennis RodmanQuote:
Originally Posted by Tacker
So did Jordan in 91 who was the only allstar on that Bulls team (pippen had bad season that year)Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuces88
Nope, Im not forgetting anyone, Dennis Rodman was only an allstar in 1990, and 1992. Never was an allstar for the Chicago Bulls.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Rodman won 3 rebounding titles with Jordan, averaging 14.9 rebounds per game each year. He was also a consistent 1st team all-defensive player, and was 1st team in 1996. Rodman was the best offensive rebounder of all time, and is ranked the 30th best player of all time in this book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacker
Who's Better, Who's Best in Basketball?: Mr Stats Sets the Record Straight on the Top 50 NBA Players of All Time
http://www.amazon.com/Whos-Better-Be.../dp/0071417885
btw
this is a great book.
It has Pippen rated # 29 and Jordan rated # 3 (behind Wilt)
It also has Duncan rated # 9 (the book came out after the 2003 season)
Besides putting Shaq first (a stupid pick intended to sell books at the time), the rest of the book is great.
Here's the complete top 50 list:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0071...pt#reader-link
Yeah, but he's still an All-star type of player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacker
To tell you the truth, I think rebounds are the most overrated stats. Just because you can rebound that doesnt mean anything. If you rebound, theres a chance the rebound will convert into points, and theres also a chance the rebound will fail resulting in a turnover. Points and assists are the real important stats, once you score or give out assists, it cant fail, itll always stay on the scoreboard.
Same goes with stealing, rebounding, and blocking, all overrated stats.
and so is Bruce Bowen, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, and David RobinsonQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
If Jordan is so good, why was Sam Bowie drafted ahead of him?
Bowie > Jordan
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Originally Posted by Galileo
That was probably the most stupidest, most ignorant, most ridiculous, counter argument I have ever heard. What are you trying to say? Just because a player was drafted before another player doesn't mean anything.
I guess we can play your IGNORANT game..... Robert Horry has more rings than Tim Duncan does that make Robert Horry better than Tim Duncan? Lorenzen Wright was drafted before Kobe Bryant, does that make Wright better than Bryant??
You fail.
You fail for taking that post seriously man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacker
you're just jealous because you didn't think of the argument first, and are a suspected Duncan/Spurs hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacker
if you're not aware, Duncan is a big man, while jordan is just a guard. Big men win championships, not guards.
Duncan is a defensive specialist while jordan was showboating shooter who dumped his wife.
Defense wins championships.
The Big Fundamental is a role model for us all.
Hakeem Olajuwon was drafted before jordan as well.
Hakeem > Bowin > jordan
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:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:
:ihit
:lmao
I'd rather have MJ. Without a doubt.
But TD is right up there as an overall player.
ROFL your post cracks me up..... How old are you, because its pointless arguing with 5 year olds. Lol lets analyze this ignorant post.
Thats why in most of the posts Ive posted, Ive always supported the Spurs, you're just too arrogant to realize thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Who was the great big man on the Bull's 6 championship run? none. Jordan (guard) dominated all big men during his time, hence Hakeem, Patrick, Robinson, Mourning, Shaq, couldnt win a championship when the "Guard" Michael Jordan was in town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Michael JordanQuote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Defensive Player of the year:- (1) 1988
All Defensive Team First Team (9) 1988-1998
Tim Duncan
Defensive Player of the year:- (0)
All Defensive Team First Team (7) 1999-2003 , 2005 , 2007
ROFL even funnier than your previous postQuote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
What does that prove??
Derrick Coleman (1st pick) > Pelvis Ellison (2nd pick) > Darius Miles (3rd pick) > Raymond Felton (5th pick) > Manu Ginobili (54th Pick)
Galileo should kill himself..
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by mavs>spurs
U have to be kidding right?
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
LOL:lol
Jordan never rolled over and died in games the way Tim has and still does (see today's game against PHX). Jordan was the most supremely confident and skilled player the game has ever seen, on top of being one of its greatest athletes.
I think Tim is an all-time great but he's too inconsistent a scorer to be mentioned in the same sentence as MJ.
You make several errors in your analysis. First of all, you can't compare draft order if players were drafted in different years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacker
Second, Kobe was a high school player, and Ginobili was a foreign player, they can't be compared with college juniors either, based on draft position.
Finally, you're a nut of you think jordan was better on defense than Duncan. Duncan is a big man who patrols the paint.
If jordan were around today, he would be stopped in his tracks by Duncan, if he's lucky enough to get by the pesky Bruce Bowen.
Meanwhile, Duncan would take Bill Cartright and Stacey King to school.
Galileo posts while on acid trips