I've been to San Antonio a few times, but I never realized how many comedians follow its NBA team.Quote:
Originally Posted by oboymeetsogirl
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I've been to San Antonio a few times, but I never realized how many comedians follow its NBA team.Quote:
Originally Posted by oboymeetsogirl
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
No problem. But, actually, I've watched Bonzi over the years, and I hope he steps up in this series.
P.S. I wouldn't say he's ugly, but they cover the clocks at the New Orleans Arena?
spurs in 3 and 1/2
First off, regarding the Hall of Fame status...Quote:
Originally Posted by oboymeetsogirl
Chris Paul and Tim Duncan? Guarantees.
Coach Popovich? Definitely.
Coach Scott? Absolutely, for his playing and coaching careers.
Manu and/or Parker? Maybe. But, then, how do you deny one of the best shooters in the league's history (Peja) or D-West if he continues his current play?
With that out of the way... I feel like you haven't watched the Hornets at all this year. Which isn't terribly surprising, considering that you're a Spurs fan and considering how much the national media slept on them. You're really not giving the team enough credit. To compare the Hornets to this year's Suns (and to think the Spurs will handle them the same way) is insulting. Sure it was the regular season, but the Hornets handed the Spurs their two worst losses of the year (102-78 and 100-75). That's not a fluke; that's because the Hornets are a great team. As are the Spurs. And I should stress the word "team" in both those sentences. The Hornets depend on one another, and they trust each other. It's the same for the Spurs. These teams were both built with a specific plan in mind... they weren't just thrown together. Trust me, it took long enough for the Hornets to get to this point (I sat through the 18-win season, I should know).
This series will be a long one. It won't be easy for us, but don't think we'll make it easy on you. I think these teams match up well, and I can't wait for Saturday night. I'll be there, booing anytime y'all touch the ball.
What if i don't actually touch the ball? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Man in the Arena
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Man in the Arena
:lol Paul is not a guaranteed HoFer yet.
For a guy who watches the NBA, you sure don't know much. Oh, of course, you're a Hornets guy, and this is the first time your team has advanced in the playoffs, so we forgive you for not paying much attention to the fact that since the days of the Showtime Lakers, Bird's Celtics, Jordan and da Bulls and Hakeem the Dream's Rockets, over 90% of the time it's teams with more than raw talent, but also with hardcore experience and stable, cohesive lineups, who usually prevail as you get deeper into the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by VoiceofReason
Hence, the four championship banners hanging in our rafters, and zero in New Orleans.
The Hornets have had a great year. New Orleans deserves a winner. We give props to Paul, just like we do to Nash, Shaq, LeBron and Kobe. But unfortunately, the Spurs are not as old and creaky as some people make them out to be. If you want to talk "big and smart," you have to prove yourself first. Come back to us in a two weeks. If the Hornets beat the Spurs, then you can crow all you like.
Meantime, I'd have to say that a truly astute NBA fan would never be so quick to predict the demise of teams like Spurs, who have been dominating the league much the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Pistons and Rockets in their glory days, even if you are a fan of a young, unproven team.
Bonzi is pretty ugly. And Sam Cassell is fugly.Quote:
Originally Posted by VoiceofReason
But the ugliest one of all is Delonte West. That is one ugly dude.
Carryover from this game:Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8WXVJQ06Sk
After that play, the entire Arena booed the Spurs every single time they had possession. Fourth quarter: Spurs 8, Hornets 24. It can't hurt to try it for a whole game.
ShoogarBear, if you've followed Chris Paul's career (especially this season), you know that he's a very special player. Although he wouldn't be an automatic HOF entry if he were to retire next month, he's certainly on the right path. The records that he's set (or matched), the company he's in when comparing him to other players, and the type of leader he is... all of these things point in that direction. But you'll have the next two weeks to learn all about that ;).
Oh you mean the game where Paul hit Bowen in the balls and Bowen got suspended. Thanks for clarifying :tu
You want "credit?" Sure, we'll give you credit: great season! Chris Paul... unbelievable play, man... way to clobber the Mavs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Man in the Arena
But to get enough credit to be spoken of in the same breath as a team that's gone all the way three times over the past five years, then you have to do better than get past the first round. Sure, you may beat the Spurs (which is unlikely), but then you need to get past either the Lakers, Jazz or Rockets, who deserve a lot more credit than the Hornets (since the Jazz at least got to the WC finals last year, the Rockets and McGrady have been banging on the door in recent years, and the Lakers have a legendary coach and are led by a three-time winner named Bryant).
But until you can get past the Spurs and what may come after that, I'm sorry but you get no playoff level "credit." This is something that has to be earned, sonny-boy. So why don't you go back to your couch, watch and learn? If you beat us, I'll be the first to congratulate you. But how about demanding "credit" after the fact, not before it?
I think that was his point, its still too soon. That being said, if he keeps going the way he has been so far, he will be a lock.Quote:
Although he wouldn't be an automatic HOF entry if he were to retire next month,
Chris was trying to contain the basketball. Another type of ball just got in the way. Other than CP's ribs, I'm not sure what Bowen was trying to kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
Two sides to every story. I'm not gonna change your mind. I was at that game, and nothing will change my mind.
Demanding credit? I'm good, thanks. Don't give my team any credit. I'm fine with that. But I'm shocked you think that the series might be over in 5 games (as evidenced by your question if anyone is picking the Hornets to win more than 1 or 2 games). I won't be surprised if the Spurs win the series; I'll be disappointed but not surprised. I'll be damn surprised if the series doesn't go 6 or 7 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by oboymeetsogirl
I can see it going 5....then again, I can also see it going 7.
What could possibly make you think that Chris Paul would ever hit another player in the groin?Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
http://www.extremesportclips.com/vid...ius-Hodge.html
Fair enough. Bowen probably "kicked" him because he got hit in the balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man in the Arena
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
That's the weird thing about the West this year. Everyone expected the first round to have some of the most competitive games in league history, and three series ended in five games or fewer. So nothing will surprise me, but I still expect Hornets-Spurs to go seven games.Quote:
Originally Posted by samikeyp
I'll say one thing... who the hell thought the first round of the East would be so compelling?
This will be a different Spurs team, than the regular season Spurs team.
I don't think the Hornets realize that.
CP3 is dirty, watch out. The dude punched Julius Hodge in the nuts in a college game and has done the same to Bowen already.
Cant wait to see him get owned
CP 3 I forgot he punched a dude in the jewels once in college. Bonzi Wells is a punk. I like Parker to be able to contain cp3.
Lol! CP3 is dirty huh. He punched a guy down-low one time in college and he's been playing clean, lights out basketball since he's been in the NBA and you call him dirty. Awww man o man.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuGGeTs-FaN
If a "dirty" CP3 makes the Spurs look like boy scouts, I love it. And I'm sure the Spurs would love it, too. It seems that every time you knock down a Spur, it gets harder to beat them.
To put this series in perspective, we can look at the NJ Nets of '03. Kidd was probably at his peak back then, with playoff experience and probably better than Paul is today. Same thing with KMart and Chandler. Pretty much the same thing with David West and Richard Jefferson. Their 3pt guy back then was Kerry Kittles, and Peja is definitely better. Same coach.
All in all, I think that Nets team was better than this Hornets team, and as far as the Spurs goes, we're much more experienced than back then, especially Tony and Manu.
We don't have DRob, but then this Hornets team plays basically with just Chandler up front. Bonzi might come in, but I think Thomas can do a good job on him. The other thing with Bonzi is that if the offense runs through him, then Paul, Chandler and Peja will get out of rhythm sooner or later. See Boris Diaw in the Suns series.
While I don't think it will be a cakewalk, just like that Nets team was not a cakewalk, I don't think it's going to be as difficult as some predict.
A lot will depend on Manu's health. If he's fine, I think we can have this series in 5 or 6 games. Stealing one of the first two in NO is imperative.
One other thing to be on the lookout for is Chandler's foul situation. Guarding Tim is no easy feat, and fouls can add up quickly on him.