Pat is building the team in MiamiQuote:
Originally Posted by sUPER sOAKER
AJ and JVG are the best options for Phoenix and the worst for Spurs
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Pat is building the team in MiamiQuote:
Originally Posted by sUPER sOAKER
AJ and JVG are the best options for Phoenix and the worst for Spurs
that's so evil brilliant!!! :lol:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
That's a nice way to put it. Someone asked D'Antoni what he thought of Beno and he said that in Europe Beno was just a fat kid who would always get hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
I'd hire D'Antoni as an offensive coordinator and talent scout.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
But at some point he was as good as TonyQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
past tense good made by polandprzem
grammar previeled !
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Originally Posted by DespЏrado
AJ has an excellent coaching mind..but I do think he has the potential to be a Larry Brown type who loses his players after a couple of years. That's his drawback right there....his personality does tend to wear on his teamates...even when he finally left the Spurs...no one was shedding tears, because he can and does nag.
At the same time...he's been pretty much humbled about as badly as one can be humbled the past couple of years. He's definitely lost a lot of his swagger and cockiness...if he's willing to drop the tude I think he has something to offer the Spurs at least on a short term basis.
D'Antoni sucks. I don't see why people say they would hire D'Antoni as an offensive assistant.
Did he even have a playbook in Phoenix?
Telling horses to run and entertain isn't coaching.
D'Antoni as a Euro talent scout would be a good idea. A lot of scouts had Manu not as good as Giricek. Even more had Manu not as good as Jaric. D'Antoni told the Spurs that Manu was a superstar.
D'Antoni should get a championship ring just for helping the Spurs figure out Ginobili > Giricek :lol
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Originally Posted by polandprzem
He was never as good.
You can reference euro games and all that jazz.
NEVER was Beno Udrih as good
Can they resurrect Cotton Fitzsimmons?Quote:
Originally Posted by sUPER sOAKER
Euro scout, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Coach, HELL NO.
The guy that needs to be taken down now is Kerr...what a prick this guy has turned out to be. I'm ready for his humbling...
He's kind of a dick for firing D'antoni in his first year there when he was the guy who basically forced D'antoni to change his team in mid-season. I'm not excusing D'antoni...but Kerr didn't really give him a fair chance to make a go of it....D'antoni actually did succeed in getting this team to play defense pretty well...their D was the cause of the difficult moments in this series, not their O.
I would have thought his playing career would have humbled him. The guy has been through more "humbling" experiences than most...and yet he still seems like an arrogant ass to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
I used to love the guy. But not anymore. And I don't think he and TD are compatible, in fact I think TD's island attitude is diametrically opposed to AJ's cajun brimstone and fire approach.
Yeah, I don't get what D'Antoni could help with. He's not a small ball expert ... as evident by going with the tri-towers look. He doesn't come up with complicated play sets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
He's basically a players' coach who is a pretty good motivator. But how would that help the Spurs? Maybe if you put him in the Coyote suit . . .
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
I'm gonna disagree with this...D'antoni knows how to get guys to knock down threes like a mofo. He definitely knows how to develop offensive confidence in players in virtually all aspects of their game...and that is Pop's A#1 weakness as a coach. Pop's just the opposite...he tends to destroy the confidence of players in their offensive game...
Kerr should fire himself for the Shaq trade. What a douchebag.
Agreed. Kerr handled this situation horribly. How much better did Kerr hope that D'Antoni would handle the Shaq trade?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
The biggest reason why D'Antoni is fishing right now is Nash all of a sudden got old. If Nash played even like he did last year, this series would have been a whole hell of a lot tougher.
Suns fans haven't figured out Kerr is a snake. He's even more to blame than D'Antoni.
If you didn't know any better, you'd think Kerr made the trade, in a way, to humiliate and get D'Antoni fired.
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Originally Posted by timvp
False...Steve Nash was nowhere near the player under Don Neslon that he was under D'antoni.
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Originally Posted by timvp
I'll agree with that...didn't take Kerr long to turn into a typical NBA GM.
This series was about Nash getting old more than anything else...his prime was extended way beyond the norm and it finally caught up with him in this series...everyone is now saying Nash is a choker or whatever(he's no more of one now than he ever was)...he's not a choker, he's just old. I can honestly say Nash looked ancient by the end of this series...
Tony retired him as a Superstar/MVP candidate.
Agreed. But how does that make him a "small ball expert". D'Antoni basically gave the ball to Nash and told him to do whatever he wanted offensively. I don't really see what he'd bring to the Spurs. Tell Pop to let Parker to handle the ball more?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
This doesn't bow well for the Phoenix Suns.
Firing coaches and what have you is bad for the players and so on. Right after being elimated.
That's a confidence killer right there. If a new coach is appointed then they'll have to re-built how that team makes plays.
This is probably just me but maybe changes aren't really warranted right now. Maybe its just the Spurs are a better team then the Suns? I mean the Spurs had beaten the Suns 4 out of 5 times in the playoffs so maybe is not so much the coach as it is on the player's poor defense.
Furthermore on the issue of D'antoni with the Spurs...
I could see Pop offering him a spot(provided he doesn't get offered a head coaching gig) if only because Pop thinks he can help D'antoni improve in aspects of his coaching...it's basically what Pop did with PJ...and I think that sort of thing does motivate Pop.
What cannot be argued is that D'antoni has a past with the Spurs both as a player and as an office employee(under Pop and RC) it won't surprise if they bring him back to this organization.
More than likely though...D'antoni will get offered a head coaching gig with a franchise struggling to sell tickets because the style of ball he coaches has been known to be popular with fans(and players).
I don't really dislike D'antono...I think he's definitely clueless about the defensive side of the game...but he's not the biggest dickhead to ever be the coach of a Spurs nemesis, and he doesn't qualify as a whiner to me(unlike the majority of Suns players and their fans).
steve kerr should be fired also
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Originally Posted by timvp
What did the Suns do before he got there?
He's the guy that put Marion at PF and Amare at C...that was a very resourceful use of the pieces that he had at that time, and I'm not sure it's one that a lot of coaches would have tried...and it actually had a ripple effect league wide IMO with many teams moving in that direction.
And he did well when the Suns lost Amare for a year.
I don't think it's as simple as letting Nash go...and even if it is...then that was a pretty smart move...it's evidentally something Don Nelson was not smart enough to think of.