Hack A Shaq isn't good coaching - Phil Jackson

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Originally Posted by CubanMustGo

Selective memory forum.

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Anyone who thinks Phil is right...is an imbecile.

Basketball at the NBA level is all about mental toughness. If your in the NBA, your one of the best players in the world, after that, it's all in the head. Anyone who takes it for more, or less, than what it is...is a fool. The NBA has been about mental toughness since it began.

Everybody plays mind games in the NBA. And every fucking moron that is agreeing with Phil just don't have the common sense God gave a goose.

Cuz Phil is playing those same mind games, right now.

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Originally Posted by Peja On A Stick

Spurs are cheap. Pop is a COWARD, HACK A SHAQ IS A JOKE.

You don't see the Wizards, HACK A BEN WALLACE. He shoots worst than Shaq. Atleast some teams still have respect for the game.

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Hi Princess Pimp. Didn't take you long. :sleep

Oh, but he did when Shaq caught the ball and was about to score, so it's completely justified :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by nfg3

And do we really care what this man says?

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well he is the best coach in the nba and we'll probably have to go throw him to reach the finals

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

Fixed...

He used the strategy against Shaq (Chicago vs. Orlando)
He used the strategy against Bowen in 2003 & 2004

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yeah thats what he said.. "i used it against shaq in orlando but it was always when he had the ball looking to score. fouling away from the ball isn't good coaching and bad for the game"

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

If not for a Fisher miracle they would be tied in playoff series head-to-heads....

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No it wouldn't. Fisher's shot was in Game 5, which was not the elimination game of that series. The Spurs lost the following game which eliminated them from the playoffs. Next.

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

No it wouldn't. Fisher's shot was in Game 5, which was not the elimination game of that series. The Spurs lost the following game which eliminated them from the playoffs. Next.

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Come on, don't give us that shit. .4 was a momentum changer and there was no way even the Spurs could pick themselves up after that dagger.

- Mars

When he used it against Bruce it was AWAY FROM THE BALL..

y doesnt he keep his dipshit mouth shut. Im sure pop doesnt like many aspects of his coaching too but theres no point to say anything. What does he know. When you can win championships without the greatest 2 players to ever play the game on your team you can talk.

"Do as I say, not as I did" forum.

theres no rules against it....YET.
but if i were greg popavich then i would do anything to win as well, including hack a shaq. as of right now it aint cheating, its more of a stratagy

Someone needs to remind Phil that the Spurs won the series 4-1.



I'd bet a paycheck that Phil will use a similar strategy at some point in a Spurs/LA series should those two matchup. Bowen will be on the floor a lot more against Kobe, and I'd be shocked if Phil doesn't try to send Bowen to the line in an attempt to get the Lakers back into the game.

Like Pop hasn't had transcendent talent to work with???

Tim Duncan - Greatest PF of all time
David Robinson - HOF
Ginobli - HOF
Parker - HOF

Pop has had just as much talent to play with. You don't win in this league without superstar talent, it's very rare that a team like DET who has no superstar wins a championship.

And Mars, you gotta make your breaks in the playoffs. The Suns could say the same thing about Game 1, had it not been for a lucky ass Tim Duncan shot they would have won the 1st game and the momentum would have swung their direction. Don't give me this woulda-coulda-shoulda BS.

Our strategy for the whole series was to go at Shaq. Get to the rim. Have Tim post him up often to get him in foul trouble. Shaq's presence on the court obviously took the Suns out of their normal superfast style of playing. Hacking Shaq only brought their personality complex to the forefront. And if this strategy can be interpreted by some as fuck you to Shaq, then I'm cool with that too.

To summarize, this strategy amplified their inherent confusion and lack of confidence. We beat them in 5, and though this strategy isn't the #1 reason, I'm not going to start nit-picking the results.

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Originally Posted by Medvedenko

Phil is right....

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Coach Phillis Coattails is fucked...............if the Lakers play the SPurs!:flag:

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

No it wouldn't. Fisher's shot was in Game 5, which was not the elimination game of that series. The Spurs lost the following game which eliminated them from the playoffs. Next.

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After being robbed of the 'swing' game which statistically speaking produces the series winner 86% of the time... (93% when the Game 5 victory is a road steal in a 2-2-1-1-1 format).

The Lakers needed that gimme' from the time-keepers to steal the series. A Game 6 victory for the Spurs at the Staples center ('ala 2003) was almost impossible given the context of the Laker's Game 5 victory (see Lakers in 2003 after losing in such a dramatic fashion against the Spurs in Game 5).

Phil Jackson is just being Phil again - playing head games. The Spurs beat the Suns 4-1 and that including some hacking, so I guess it turned out to be pretty good coaching, hmmm? If they had lost, maybe you could have called it bad.

What people fail to recognize often is that hacking is not simply about seeing whether the person makes their FTs or not - you'll notice Pop continued to do it, at times, regardless of whether Shaq (or Skinner) was making them. It served another, more important purpose: It disrupted the offensive rhythm. Pop was very specific about using the hack-a-Shaq technique whenever the Suns seemed to be surging, or about to surge, because Phoenix's offense thrives on momentum. And I'd say --given the outcome--his plan worked beautifully.

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Originally Posted by gmanrulz

y doesnt he keep his dipshit mouth shut. Im sure pop doesnt like many aspects of his coaching too but theres no point to say anything. What does he know. When you can win championships without the greatest 2 players to ever play the game on your team you can talk.

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Pop addresses these issues with class and wouldn't ever stoop to criticize another coach in the media.

Phil Jackson has always been a classless jerk.

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Originally Posted by Reverend Midge

Who gives a shit if it's good coaching or not? Winning is all that matters.

And I know I'm repeating what many other have said for years, if Shaq or his coach don't want this tactic employed, teach the fat fuck to hit a free throw.

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Completely agree. :tu

Why would anyone expect Phil to compliment or agree with anything the Spurs do? He's the douche that labeled our '99 championship an "asterisk" (you know, because the Spurs had a clear advantage that year-it's not like every other team in the league had the same opportunity as the Spurs).

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

After being robbed of the 'swing' game which statistically speaking produces the series winner 86% of the time... (93% when the Game 5 victory is a road steal in a 2-2-1-1-1 format).

The Lakers needed that gimme' from the time-keepers to steal the series. A Game 6 victory for the Spurs at the Staples center ('ala 2003) was almost impossible given the context of the Laker's Game 5 victory (see Lakers in 2003 after losing in such a dramatic fashion against the Spurs in Game 5).

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The best team always wins in a 7 game series. If a team can't bounce back from a .4 situation, or a game in which its players are suspended, or an injury, or whatever else, then they aren't the best team in the NBA that year.

Spurs weren't the best team in 2004 and 2006. They were close - damn close - but not the best.

The Suns have been damn close for several years now. But they have never been the best.

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Originally Posted by Supergirl

The best team always wins in a 7 game series. If a team can't bounce back from a .4 situation, or a game in which its players are suspended, or an injury, or whatever else, then they aren't the best team in the NBA that year.

Spurs weren't the best team in 2004 and 2006. They were close - damn close - but not the best.

The Suns have been damn close for several years now. But they have never been the best.

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I would agree, except for the fact that DazedAndConfuzed is trying to suggest that Phil >>>>>>>>>> Pop. When really I see them as equals...

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

I would agree, except for the fact that DazedAndConfuzed is trying to suggest that Phil >>>>>>>>>> Pop. When really I see them as equals...

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9 doesn't equal 3 1/2

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Originally Posted by DazedAndConfused

Kick their ass in the playoffs again?

Pop has only beaten Phil Jackson ONCE in the playoffs, and that was when the 3-peat Lakers were at their weakest in terms of a supporting cast. Phil Jackson, OTOH, has beaten Pop 3 times. If there is any ownage going on, it's Phil owning Pop.

I don't expect most Spurs fans to actually agree with what Phil is saying. But deep down I know you are all embarrassed that your coach and organization would have to stoop to such tactic for such a sustained period of time just to get a win.

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Embarrassed.

No.


If anyone should be embarrassed it should be Shaquille for never have improving his free throw shooting over a 13 year span.

The way I see it, is that we are giving someone two FREE baskets.


Strategy and winning has nothing to do with what is enjoyable to watch.

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Originally Posted by Phenomanul

I would agree, except for the fact that DazedAndConfuzed is trying to suggest that Phil >>>>>>>>>> Pop. When really I see them as equals...

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Phil has a better Win% in reg season and playoffs
Phil has the most wins than anyone else in the playoffs.
Phil has the head to head edge
Phil has more rings and is tied for most all time

Does that mean Pop is not a great coach, nope, but not on Phil's level.

It's like Kobe compared to Jordan