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That raises questions, too. Lots of questions ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
Has he ever answered your prayers? (Um, yes he has. Next question.)
What has he ever created?
And, even though Tim is great, he still appears to be a finite being that exists inside the universe. How, then, can a finite being exercise infinite power, as God does? To have infinite power is necessarily dependent upon him residing outside of space and time. Yet, here he is, among us.
I dont know what religion Timmy is but I know who his minister is.
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No, not necessarily. That was a big assumption on your part.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClingingMars
Clutchism?
I think Deist is the closest you are going to get to the right answer without asking the man himself.
I will say this though in the '99 championship video; there is a scene with him on the bus and he is wearing a religious necklace. Any guesses as to what it was?
Yes, a man with a minister that we can believe in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Avitus1
Great choice, Timmy, for your spiritual mentor.
TD's religion??? BASKETBALL!!!
Well, in America, religious necklaces mean nothing. In China or Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, they mean a whole lot. Since a cross will likely get your thrown in prison in Saudi, you'll never see one there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DespЏrado
Deism is not a popular position in the schoolhouse, hasn't been since the 19th century. Are they still around?
I would say they are making a comeback as a politically moderate position more than anything actually practiced, for people who accept God but not necessarily the biblical version of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Quixote
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is this the necklace someone mentioned?
timmay looks... relaxed
duncan228, I'm sure you have this picture. I used to have it on my wall but he's holding a bowling ball and you can see the ying/yang necklace a lot clearer.
Not the one I remember seeing. But I can hardly see what that actually is.
Anyways the answer was that he was wearing a Yin Yang pendant irc. Not much of a statement of to his actual religious beliefs but it fits his low key personality and a deist like belief system.
I hope no one takes this too seriously. People are entitled to their own beliefs and practices. And Duncan is entitled to some privacy.
Yes, deism was popular during the Enlightenment for those who were fine with his existence and the doctrine of creation, but rejected the doctrines of providence and revelation. They seemed to have an a priori objection to the supernatural; viz., Thomas Jefferson's famous Bible that had every miracle cut out of it. What were his reasons? Were they based on textual or manuscript evidence? No. It was a naturalistic bias, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by DespЏrado
I wouldn't say, though, that Tim is a deist. Clearly, God has provided for the Spurs.
Not really. My parents are very devout Christians and I consider myself a Christian yet we have different beliefs on certain issues and it's caused conflict before. So maybe Tim just has different Christian beliefs than David.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClingingMars
I've wondered this too. I always wondered if maybe the reason he was good friends with DRob was because maybe they shared similar beliefs. Who knows. I can see him being Christian and I could also see him being agnostic/athiest. He's a good guy either way so it doesn't really matter to me. Just a sheer curiosity thing.
Correct answer!Quote:
Originally Posted by makedamnsure
I take it you are a Calvinist, then, and your parents are Arminian. Those devils!Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
Or is it that they prefer the old hymns, and you like contemporary stuff. Those old farts!
Big differences indeed. :bking
Deism doesn't have to mean specifically for Duncan what it meant for Jefferson. But I just wanted to point out that I don't think Duncan is adverse to a belief in God. But he is not an outspoken advocate for it either. So I think classifying him as a deist is the closest to what you are going to get to the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Quixote
Uh, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Quixote
No ... I think what you mean to say is that WE are agnostic about what he believes. Deism is not agnosticism -- it is a religious and metaphysical belief that God created the world, and then abandoned it. But we don't know that Tim believes (a) in God, (b) that He created the world, or (c) that God abandoned it.
We are reasonably sure about (a) and (b) -- they seem to go together. But we don't know at all about (c).
Of course, Tim is entitled to his privacy. You won't see me outside his front door, or calling his cell phone to ask him. But I do care about him as a person, so I guess that's why I care about his religion.
I see. Your parents are dispensational pre-trib premillenials, and you are amillennial. Those demons.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
I'm as curious about everything Duncan as anyone. One of the hard things about being a fan of his is trying to respect the privacy lines he's drawn. There are things I'd like to know but he obviously doesn't want the information out. I try my best to respect his wish for privacy.
He is whipped hardcore. So I assume whatever his wife is? I think TD is a free spirit.
Like I said, you won't see sticking a mic in his face, asking, "So, Tim, what's your religion!?"Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan228
On the other hand, religion is not strictly a private thing. It has a public component, no?
:lol I didn't mean to get into a debate about the nature of God and our beliefs in God. I didn't mean to ascribe to Duncan the moral certainty that God abandoned the world, and nor do I think Deism has to mean one thing for all people. What you are describing is historically accurate, but as with anything in history symbols change as people and culture change around it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Quixote