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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
It's funny to hear people say that Kobe would have gotten that call because he gets sooooo many calls ... how many free throws has he shot in this series??
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
Flagrant two and a replay if it was Kobe shooting that shit.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
You can't jump on a player.
Lebron's situation was MUCH MUCH less blatant. Stuff like that we see all of the time, yes or no? YES.
But, how often do you see a dude get jumped on and no call?
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Ronaldo McDonald
You can't jump on a player.
Lebron's situation was MUCH MUCH less blatant. Stuff like that we see all of the time, yes or no? YES.
But, how often do you see a dude get jumped on and no call?
How often do you see the NBA come out and refute the call?
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
missmyzte
It's funny to hear people say that Kobe would have gotten that call because he gets sooooo many calls ... how many free throws has he shot in this series??
You're forgetting he's guarded by one of the best defensive players the league has ever seen.
And, in game 3 he was given an and 1 off of a 3 make towards the end of the game - a tic tac foul (if there even was one) that nowhere near compares to the one we all saw yesterday.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Trainwreck2100
How often do you see the NBA come out and refute the call?
:toast
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Commissioner Stern
And yet no player says it should've been called. There's a disconnect between you and reality.
What fuckin player are you talking about? You think a Laker player is going to say, "Yea that's a call that should have been made"
And you're nuts and obviously no NOTHING about the Spurs organization if you think they will EVER come out in public and bitch about this non call.
I am completely over this. Laker fans and non-Spurs fans would be pissed off mightily if this had happened to their team and they know it.
As for those Lakerfans bemoaning the missed calls previously made; All I have to tell this is this, Big deal. Missed calls are part of the game both ways, but does this mean it's ok for defenders to foul and jump on players at the end of games and expect a noncall everytime because refs can now "makeup" previously missed calls this way?
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Ronaldo McDonald
You're forgetting he's guarded by one of the best defensive players the league has ever seen.
No, I'm not. I know what a great defensive player Bowen is, but just pointing out that Kobe isn't D-Wade. Players don't get called for fouls just by looking at him, he earns the foul calls.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
Anyways, to get back on topic, I am surprised and content that the League actually had the balls to come out in public, on record and admit a mistake was made.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
missmyzte
It's funny to hear people say that Kobe would have gotten that call because he gets sooooo many calls ... how many free throws has he shot in this series??
The Spurs are consciously backing off him -- like they did with CP3 in the last series. Let him get his, they say.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
missmyzte
No, I'm not. I know what a great defensive player Bowen is, but just pointing out that Kobe isn't D-Wade. Players don't get called for fouls just by looking at him, he earns the foul calls.
And Brent Barry didn't earn the foul call at the end of the game?
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
1Parker1
Anyways, to get back on topic, I am surprised and content that the League actually had the balls to come out in public, on record and admit a mistake was made.
Same here.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
1Parker1
I am completely over this. Laker fans and non-Spurs fans would be pissed off mightily if this had happened to their team and they know it.
If the situation were reversed, you're right and every Laker fan would be furious. However, if Barry had gotten the foul and made the free throws and won the game, every Laker fan would be in an uproar about the missed call on the previous play. Laker fans have a right to be upset about that missed call, Spurs fans have a right to be upset about their missed call. Just because the Lakers managed to come out with the W, doesn't mean that it wasn't a legitimately missed call. We just aren't complaining because the Lakers did get the win.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
1Parker1
And Brent Barry didn't earn the foul call at the end of the game?
No, he did. Just saying it wouldn't have been called differently had that been Kobe instead of Barry.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
missmyzte
No, he did. Just saying it wouldn't have been called differently had that been Kobe instead of Barry.
I'm almost 99% sure if that had been Kobe, that foul would have been called. Hell, if it had been Ginobili, that foul would have been called.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
missmyzte
If the situation were reversed, you're right and every Laker fan would be furious. However, if Barry had gotten the foul and made the free throws and won the game, every Laker fan would be in an uproar about the missed call on the previous play. Laker fans have a right to be upset about that missed call, Spurs fans have a right to be upset about their missed call. Just because the Lakers managed to come out with the W, doesn't mean that it wasn't a legitimately missed call. We just aren't complaining because the Lakers did get the win.
A missed call (which happen on hard to see plays that you really can't blame the refs for as they're only human) is totally different from a bad call (which basically happen when a blatant play is made and the refs fell to make the appropriate call ie. last play)
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
Well, one bad non-call deserves another. Let's focus on Game 5 now.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
Joey Crawford should never be permitted to referee another Spurs' game if the NBA had any integrity.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
missmyzte
It's funny to hear people say that Kobe would have gotten that call because he gets sooooo many calls ... how many free throws has he shot in this series??
Nobody actually said that -- just that Kobe would have got that call at Staples in that situation in the WCF. (Which, in any event, I think was borderline at best). :)
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
picnroll
Joey Crawford should never be permitted to referee another Spurs' game if the NBA had any integrity.
How about no more NBA games, period? He fucked the Lakers out of a number of calls last night as well.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Mamba24
Well, one bad non-call deserves another. Let's focus on Game 5 now.
Don't forget to take this along with you:
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Commissioner Stern
What Lakers fan is saying there wasn't contact? There was contact, but no foul was called. No one expected a foul to be called. No one.
The last thing any referee wants to do is decide the game on a last second foul call. No one is disputing that unwritten rule. Not even your own players. You can go through the annals of time and recollect numerous plays where the offensive player drives through the lane in the last second, gets his wrist slapped or his head knocked and no foul is called. It happens to Lebron James, Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan.
Well, maybe not Tim Duncan. They should've thrown it in to him. They would've called a handchecking foul or something.
No one wants a game decided by a foul call. But since players know that the refs are going to lay off, it gives players the red light to foul in the closing minutes of games, doesnt it.
I can think of one no-call that probably cost a team a championship. When Chicago-Utah played the 7th game, M. Jordan (the Messiah) pushed the Utah defender (Russell) out of the way so hard with his off hand that the guy stumbled backward. Jordan made a last second jump shot for the win.
Jordan knew he'd get away with it because he knew the 'unwritten rule'--and he had something else going for him--he was a superstar. Was it fair for the refs to lay off making that call?
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Russ
Nobody actually said that -- just that Kobe would have got that call at Staples in that situation in the WCF. (Which, in any event, I think was borderline at best). :)
Kobe?
Sure he would have gotten the call.
Ginobili?
Yep.
Would a Sasha or a Farmar have gotten that call?
I doubt it.
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Re: Stein: League acknowledges Spurs' Barry was fouled
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Originally Posted by
Mamba24
How about no more NBA games, period? He fucked the Lakers out of a number of calls last night as well.
Want to compare records of playoff games hat Joey Crawford has refed of Lakers and Spurs?