Get Refuel: How To Rebuild For 2008-09

Uh... you have to rebuild this bench, dude. No one's calling for trading a big three player. Everyone's saying exactly what your list says. I know you run the board - and great job - but you haven't cast any new light on the situation.

you almost can only do this
because I think trading manu or tp is not what is needed

who would they get
melo? please (no d)


do you resign thomas?
do you resign horry for vet min
and have him be player coach

finley is DONE

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Uh... you have to rebuild this bench, dude. No one's calling for trading a big three player. Everyone's saying exactly what your list says. I know you run the board - and great job - but you haven't cast any new light on the situation.

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There's been six threads to trade one of the big three since the game ended.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Uh... you have to rebuild this bench, dude. No one's calling for trading a big three player. Everyone's saying exactly what your list says. I know you run the board - and great job - but you haven't cast any new light on the situation.

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Bench doesn't need rebuilding. I want almost everyone back. Just a few additions and moving a couple people up the depth charts.

if spurs can not get a backup point
let barry play it more not manu doing regular season so he can be even better at it during playoffs

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Originally Posted by timvp

I wouldn't rebuild. There are a lot of Sky Is Falling posts and Spurs fans worried that the run is over. However, I truly believe that the Spurs were one healthy Manu Ginobili away from championship number five. You need health to win championships. Going into this season, I thought the Spurs would have another great shot if the Big Three remained healthy throughout the playoffs. Didn't happen. Didn't win. Not a huge shock.

I know this isn't going to be a sexy opinion and I'm sure there will be those who will be hugely against my stance but this team has most of the pieces. Only thing this team needs, besides healthy, is one more scorer. And I'm not even talking a prolific scorer. I'm talking eight to ten points per game. Basically, replace the scoring Finley provided in 2007. Add in some youth at the end of the bench and I love the Spurs' chances.

Some Spurs fans want a complete overhaul ... and that just doesn't make sense to me. The window is only open for two to four years. That's not really enough time to rebuild a totally new supporting cast. What you do is you get a couple young pieces and you work those players into the rotation. The transition to the new supporting cast should be seamless ... not a house cleaning project that turns next season into a rebuilding one.

To do list:

1) Find a young, athletic bigman who can play in the rotation. Whether than be Ian Mahinmi, Tiago Splitter or someone else.

2) Find a young, scoring point guard. I want someone in the Rodney Stuckey combo guard mold who just wants to score. The NBA is becoming a slashers league and the easiest position to find bench scoring is at point guard.

3) Find a swingman who can score. Someone who can average ten points per game. Preferably a shooter.

That's it. Bring everyone else back, hope the Big Three is healthy next year and the Spurs will have a great chance.

Finding the three stars to build around is the hard part. That has been accomplished. Subtle changes to the role players to adjust to more athleticism oriented Western Conference is all that's needed.

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Combo guard, wold be Azubuike.

Props to Aggie for being one of the first to bring that up.


Yeah I said this in other threads, this team is NOT as far off as people think.

You add in Mahinmi, Splitter, a wing or two, and this team is back at the top.

I think Barry can replace Finley's production easily, he showed hes got a DAMN load left in the tank. Problem is hoping he stays healthy.

Trade Ginobli

Nobody except Tim is untouchable. Maybe Tony, but that's about it.

We have seen the future -- L.A.'s roster -- and they beat us like a drum. We need several young, athletic, scoring, rebounding types to be able to compete with them.

You can't go into a gunfight with a bunch of steak knives, like we had.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

There's been six threads to trade one of the big three since the game ended.

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No one takes those seriously, you think? The larger threads - six to seven of them already - about the off-season say exactly what timvp says above, although he claims it's this brand new take on things.

Where do we get a combo guard? Where do we get our big man? How do we replace Finley's 2007 scoring?

Put it this way, I'm not against bringing back Michael Finley and Robert Horry ... depending on how the offseason shakes out.

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Originally Posted by Lake_show

Trade Ginobli

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Would the Lakers take him?

I'd swap him even-up for Vujacic. Sasha didn't shoot particularly well in the series, but he's a good defender and not a turnover machine. And he's not hurt all the time. And he can generally make his shots. I'd take him or Ariza for Manu.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Bench doesn't need rebuilding. I want almost everyone back. Just a few additions and moving a couple people up the depth charts.

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Ouch. To be honest, I think that'd be a disaster. Probably what will happen, probably also a disaster. At this point the bench is like running without cartilege in your knee. Bone on bone.

What are your thoughts on Manu playing for Argentina or will he? Is Finley retiring? I know Horry is not, but will he be on the Spurs? What's Barry's contract length?

Players we let go: (?)
Horry
Finley
Vaughn
Damon

Players we add:
Ian
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Someone needs to find a FA list.

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Originally Posted by ManuTim_best of Fwiendz

Maybe, but I'd like a big who'd be a big enough offensive threat to help Timmy out for once. Timmy's been solo for so longgggg...

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Five letters, begins with S, ends in a. We already had that guy.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Put it this way, I'm not against bringing back players like Michael Finley and Robert Horry.

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I don't want them back. But unfortunately I think Pop will bring them back if they want to be here.

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Originally Posted by E20

Someone needs to find a FA list.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...2008freeagents

Horry I'd bring back.

Finley should be given the handshake and the adios.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Put it this way, I'm not against bringing back Michael Finley and Robert Horry ... depending on how the offseason shakes out.

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You're crazy. They need to be retired. The bench in general needs some serious upgrades.

Manu will never be 100%, his body has taken too much of a pounding.

Thomas should return, as well as Barry. Finley and Horry should bow out. Although I feel both contributed very well their time with the Spurs. Youth and athleticism should be in the mix for next year, not an overhaul but an added touch.

a double-digit rebounder and shot blocker who at least has a hook shot.

The Spurs need someone/some way to keep other teams from packing in the lane. It keeps Duncan, Ginobili and Parker all from scoring, leading to long droughts. And they can't seem to hit jumpers...

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Originally Posted by timvp

Put it this way, I'm not against bringing back Michael Finley and Robert Horry ... depending on how the offseason shakes out.

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I can't see keeping ALL the old farts, but half of them? Yeah.

You don't trade any of the big 3.

Here's who we keep:

Tim
Manu
Tony
Bowen
Barry
Thomas
Udoka
Oberto
Mahinmi

Lose: Finley, Horry, Bonner, Vaughn, Stoudamire, Bonner (?) - Trade ?

FA Possibilities - Jamison, Matt Barnes, Pietrus, Artest

We need hungry younger guys; just additions though, no major overhaul.

Look at the young Celtics scrubs.

Or look at what Joe Dumars did with Rodney Stuckey, Jason Maxiell...