Skip Bayless of ESPN: Manu is the reason Spurs lost

anyone else see 1st and 10 on ESPN first take? skip went off on manu. he even took his jersey and threw it to the floor :lol every thing he said was on point and i agree 100%. but what i don't understand is why aren't you spurs fans crucifying manu also? he cost us the series, he choked...yet you guys wanna go meet him at the airport to say "i love you". fuck that he needs to take the blame and be reminded of it everyday until we make the WCF again. remember how after 06 reportedly manu "felt bad" the entire off season for blowing the series against the mavs. and the next year we won. we should all hope that he is feeling 10x worse now.

MANU IF YOU ARE READING THIS I HOPE YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU BETTER BRING YOUR BEST GAME NEXT SEASON BITCH. NO EXCUSES!!!!

He was hurt and Bayless is a class A idiot.

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If you step on the floor............NO EXCUSES! Manu played like a bitch!

First of all, No Manu = No Playoffs. As easy as pie.
Other than that, few guys are as hard on themselves as Manu is. I'm pretty sure he couldn't sleep last night, and I'm sure he'll bounce back.

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Originally Posted by DaDakota

He was hurt and Bayless is a class A idiot.

DD

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Manu said " I feel fine, better than the hornets series."

seriously spurs fans, stop making this excuse!

how can you be hurt when you suck the first few games, magically be better and drop 30, then be hurt again. MANU CHOKED. PERIOD.

We're not crucifying Manu because we're not spoiled insecure fucking bitches like you are and we appreciate what Manu has done for this team and what he can do when he's healthy enough.

Fuck your sense of entitlement.

(This is fun)

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Originally Posted by Jayem

Manu said " I feel fine, better than the hornets series."

seriously spurs fans, stop making this excuse!

how can you be hurt when you suck the first few games, magically be better and drop 30, then be hurt again. MANU CHOKED. PERIOD.

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If you knew your head from your ass about ankle injuries you would understand. They are often not the same every day.

PopaMoron is who kept marching him out there and running the offense thru him instead of showing an ounce of faith in the bench and/or changing up the O strategy. Like Barry with 23 pts in 27 minuters. Derr er errrrr.

Forget the bad ankle.

Lakers were determined to stop Manu, and they did. They swarmed him like flies going to warm shit. The one night they kind of laid off him, he made them pay.

So if you and Bayless think this is "all on Manu", you're both idiots. You do know that other players are paid good money to make shots too, don't you?

I think everyone of the guys gave all they had to give. It just wasn't enough this year.

And that's the same way it's going to be for 29 other teams when all is said and done.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

Manu said " I feel fine, better than the hornets series."

seriously spurs fans, stop making this excuse!

how can you be hurt when you suck the first few games, magically be better and drop 30, then be hurt again. MANU CHOKED. PERIOD.

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Did you even watch him play dude? He took 9 shots alot of them later in desperation mode. He was running with those long strides, typical of someone who has a limp and is hiding it.

He dropped 30 in game 3 because adreniline kicked in for one game, its not impossible for that to happen.

Even the 30 point game wasn't a classic Manu game. He was making his outside shots but he still wasn't creating the kind of havoc Spurs fans are used to.

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Originally Posted by Fabbs

If you knew your head from your ass about ankle injuries you would understand. They are often not the same every day.

PopaMoron is who kept marching him out there and running the offense thru him instead of showing an ounce of faith in the bench and/or changing up the O strategy. Like Barry with 23 pts in 27 minuters. Derr er errrrr.

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Yeah I saw that last night. I was like just throw the ball to Barry you dorks. I am suprised that Pop didn't recognize that Barry had the hot hand and should have been the go to guy last night.

since the nba will be issuing fines next season with flopping...

trade him now while we still can

Mangoo is sooooooooo overrated. Duncan is the MAN!

He should've roasted Pop more for not managing Manu's workload. He knew the guy was hurt.

Manu is a big part of the reason you lost, but Skip Bayless is still a moron. They should rename 1st and 10 to Skip Bayless gets punked by black people.

Skip Bayless.....:p

bayless is a big spurs fan so yeah it's understandable he was pissed

Did you see the e-mails they read on the air? Some dude broke his 2,200$ tv out of anger cause of the spurs loss.

I agree, although in deference will admit Manu was injured. If he was any good, the series would have been far different, starting with a Game 1 win.

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

since the nba will be issuing fines next season with flopping...

trade him now while we still can

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We better get a damn lot, he gets fined not us. We would not get value so the consideration is absurd. Furthermore, it's hard to find clutch value out there anyways. We just need certain pieces, the league is better b/c of us, so once again we must adapt. (W/O trading him)

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

He should've roasted Pop more for not managing Manu's workload. He knew the guy was hurt.

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No shit.

If you have to blame somebody, blame Pop...

Pop's rotations cost us game 1 and 4.

That said, the Lakers deserve the credit for beating the Spurs.

It wasn't like we lost game 1, 4, and 5 by 20 points...

all were close games, and all were winnable. Kobe just killed us.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

We're not crucifying Manu because we're not spoiled insecure fucking bitches like you are and we appreciate what Manu has done for this team and what he can do when he's healthy enough.

Fuck your sense of entitlement.

(This is fun)

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but he didn't do anything this series. and to top of his poor shooting he was a turnover machine. how can you appreciate that? i'm sorry, you just can't. manu has to take the blame for this and i'm gonna make sure he feels it. whats the link to his official forum?

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Originally Posted by Fabbs

If you knew your head from your ass about ankle injuries you would understand. They are often not the same every day.

PopaMoron is who kept marching him out there and running the offense thru him instead of showing an ounce of faith in the bench and/or changing up the O strategy. Like Barry with 23 pts in 27 minuters. Derr er errrrr.

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if you ever shot a basketball you'd know you don't need a 100% ankle to hit a set jump shot. manu couldn't hit anything AND HE WAS turning the ball over. he threw the ball away in crucial moments. so his ankle made him make poor passes? AND FOR THE 10684668 time manu said his ankle was fine!

btw skip called out pop on that too.

look we need to just call it like it is. MANU BLEW THE SERIES. lets be real spurs fans. tim showed up, tony showed up..if manu would've we would be in the finals.

:lol Yeah poor you. It really sucks for you doesn't it.

Buy a ticket some time and then you can yell at him personally.

Manu is the reason the Spurs lost. Let's not try to dismiss that simply b/c we all love Manu. If Manu gives us a 15-20ppg in this series, we win the series. Game 1 and 5 proved that much in the 4th Qtr.

That being said, an honest assesment needs to be made on Ginobili. He is turning 31, he always plays hurt b/c of his "style of play", and he will eventually lose his explosion becoming a player like Finley or Horry.

I hate to say it, but what if the Spurs traded Ginobili? He still has value right now, and he could garner the Spurs two young players (perhaps J. Smith/R. Childress/J. Johnson combo from the Hawks) to play alongside Bruce, Tim, and Tony.

I'd hate to trade him, but I don't think he will ever be 100% healthy and that affects his game more than the other guys. Once he loses his explosion, he'll be nothing more than a role player.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

look we need to just call it like it is. MANU BLEW THE SERIES. lets be real spurs fans. tim showed up, tony showed up..if manu would've we would be in the finals.

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"real spurs fans" don't throw All-Stars under the bus when they are dealing with injuries. Manu has too much class to use his injury as an excuse, but all you had to do was watch him play to know he was fighting it.

GTFO with your whining and bitching already.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

but he didn't do anything this series. and to top of his poor shooting he was a turnover machine. how can you appreciate that? i'm sorry, you just can't. manu has to take the blame for this and i'm gonna make sure he feels it. whats the link to his official forum?

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LOL. Good job dude.

You tell Manu!

(the ego of the anonymous internet poster is greater than the gravitational force of a black hole... and just as effective at sucking)

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

We're not crucifying Manu because we're not spoiled insecure fucking bitches like you are and we appreciate what Manu has done for this team and what he can do when he's healthy enough.

Fuck your sense of entitlement.

(This is fun)

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I really hate some Spurs fans. Spoiled ass bitches.

and you guys want to talk about "ohh he was injured" well so was KOBE! Kobe is playing with a bad back and a finger that needs surgery! you don't see him choking out there.

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

since the nba will be issuing fines next season with flopping...

trade him now while we still can

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:lol i swear spurs made a big mistake by not getting rid of manu, hes way overrated. injury prone, turnover machine and chokes in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by S_A_Longhorn

I hate to say it, but what if the Spurs traded Ginobili? He still has value right now, and he could garner the Spurs two young players (perhaps J. Smith/R. Childress/J. Johnson combo from the Hawks) to play alongside Bruce, Tim, and Tony.

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You can get that thought out of your mind now. Like Pop said last night in the post-game interview, Tony, Manu and TD will be back next year, and we'll build around them.

Manu was 1) spent, 2) injured and 3) being swarmed by the Lakers. It's no surprise the Lakers focused on Manu either, considering he has been our best player this season. The thing is, nobody in our bench gave us a lift. If Finley scores 10 ppg, Horry scores 10 ppg, and Bones scores 10 ppg, we win game 1 and 4. Maybe even game 5.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

and you guys want to talk about "ohh he was injured" well so was KOBE! Kobe is playing with a bad back and a finger that needs surgery! you don't see him choking out there.



:lol i swear spurs made a big mistake by not getting rid of manu, hes way overrated. injury prone, turnover machine and chokes in the playoffs.

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That just says it all right there. Go fuck yourself troll.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

:lol i swear spurs made a big mistake by not getting rid of manu, hes way overrated. injury prone, turnover machine and chokes in the playoffs.

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Dude, how many Championships do you think we'd have without Manu?

And who do you think we'd get for Manu? Kobe Bryant?!? :lol

Hey, the guy was hurt. It's not like he wanted to be hurt. He courageously tried to play through it but could not. Had he been full strength, perhaps the outcome would've been different. It's no different that Chauncey Billups' hamstring injury. Attrition is just as much a villian of championship hopes as anything else. The only difference is that the Pistons have an adequate backup in place to somewhat offset Billiups' injury. The Spurs, of course, do not. We've seen it all year. Injuries to any member of our core trio have been devastating. It should be no surprise this team faltered in the conference finals. This will become even more prevalent as this trio gets older. So again, if you really want to lay blame into someone, I say lay blame to Pop

Trade for Michael Redd

So the guy unfortunately had one bad series that cost us a chance at the title. That doesn't mean we just give up on him and trade him. He's third team all NBA for a reason.

Hopefully this loss motivates him and he'll be back with a vengeance next year and be better than ever.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

I'm not supposed to say this, so mods please do not reveal my IP.

Javtokas WILL join the Spurs.

The only reason I am confirming this to you guys is because I'm an avid reader of this forum and the endless threads about this subject are killing me. Hopefully you guys can talk about something else now.

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http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...34#post1082434

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Originally Posted by Jayem

anyone else see 1st and 10 on ESPN first take? skip went off on manu. he even took his jersey and threw it to the floor :lol every thing he said was on point and i agree 100%. but what i don't understand is why aren't you spurs fans crucifying manu also? he cost us the series, he choked...yet you guys wanna go meet him at the airport to say "i love you". fuck that he needs to take the blame and be reminded of it everyday until we make the WCF again. remember how after 06 reportedly manu "felt bad" the entire off season for blowing the series against the mavs. and the next year we won. we should all hope that he is feeling 10x worse now.

MANU IF YOU ARE READING THIS I HOPE YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU BETTER BRING YOUR BEST GAME NEXT SEASON BITCH. NO EXCUSES!!!!

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Basketball isn't a one mans' game :rolleyes

Therefore, YOU and your thread SUX!

Manu is so great for someone who played less 28 minutes per game in his career.

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Originally Posted by Lake_show

Manu is so great for someone who played less 28 minutes per game in his career.

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Where were you the last 5 years when Manu was winning it all?
Right, you can go back to your cave now.

Another "golden oldie" from Jayem... this one way back in 2007... after we lost ONE Game! Against the Nuggets! LOL

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Originally Posted by Jayem

THE SPURS ARE DONE.

I know its hard for us fans to accept this but we really need to. We should see things for what they are and stop fooling ourselves. WE ARE NOT going to win this year or again anytime soon. We shouldn't let being fans cloud the truth. Its like Kings fans thinking they got a shot, thats how we look.

We had our time to shine, we got some some rings. Everything must come to an end. We should continue to root and support our guys but we got to be realistic.

It was fun while it lasted.

Good luck Dallas and Phoenix, the cycle will repeat and the Spurs one day will be back on top.

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Yeah, keep talking smack, Spurs "fan".

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...93#post1600793

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Originally Posted by MadDog73

Dude, how many Championships do you think we'd have without Manu?

And who do you think we'd get for Manu? Kobe Bryant?!? :lol

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it was possible, the year kobe signed his max contract, he was toying around about exploring the FA....

it wouldve cost the spurs parker/ginoboli...and a few pieces to get it to work...

Ginobili not being healthy and able to contribute and create havoc like normally, is a pretty good reason they lost.

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

it was possible, the year kobe signed his max contract, he was toying around about exploring the FA....

it wouldve cost the spurs parker/ginoboli...and a few pieces to get it to work...

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The key being Tony AND Manu.

Manu straight up would give us somebody < Manu.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

We're not crucifying Manu because we're not spoiled insecure fucking bitches like you are and we appreciate what Manu has done for this team and what he can do when he's healthy enough.

Fuck your sense of entitlement.

(This is fun)

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word.

Manu was obviously hurt. No lateral movement, no explosiveness, slow.

Any person with common sense can see that. Manu does not need to spell it out for you. Manu gives no excuses, so if asked, he will say "I am fine"

the OP is an :idiot

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Originally Posted by Jayem

Manu said " I feel fine, better than the hornets series."

seriously spurs fans, stop making this excuse!

how can you be hurt when you suck the first few games, magically be better and drop 30, then be hurt again. MANU CHOKED. PERIOD.

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Get over it Jayem! Life goes on and there are more important things in life than basketball. The Spurs have given us (not you Jayem) Spurs fans 10 wonderful years with 4 championships. And every year they go deep into the playoffs. So maybe the fatigue finally caught up with them. I am proud of our Spurs and everything they have done. Sure I am upset that they could not advance farther against the Lakers, who by the way got an injection of fresh legs and new life with Pau Gasol, but I do not in anyway hate the Spurs! If you are going to come on here and bitch every day of your hate for the Spurs, them just go away and pollute some other teams fan forum. It's just a game!

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Originally Posted by T Park

Ginobili not being healthy and able to contribute and create havoc like normally, is a pretty good reason they lost.

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Now, I completely understand why many don't like you around here :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by S_A_Longhorn

Manu is the reason the Spurs lost. Let's not try to dismiss that simply b/c we all love Manu. If Manu gives us a 15-20ppg in this series, we win the series. Game 1 and 5 proved that much in the 4th Qtr.

That being said, an honest assesment needs to be made on Ginobili. He is turning 31, he always plays hurt b/c of his "style of play", and he will eventually lose his explosion becoming a player like Finley or Horry.

I hate to say it, but what if the Spurs traded Ginobili? He still has value right now, and he could garner the Spurs two young players (perhaps J. Smith/R. Childress/J. Johnson combo from the Hawks) to play alongside Bruce, Tim, and Tony.
I'd hate to trade him, but I don't think he will ever be 100% healthy and that affects his game more than the other guys. Once he loses his explosion, he'll be nothing more than a role player.

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No, I think Manu has some good years left. Spurs need to build around the big three; have the guys in place so when the transition comes, it won't be painful as in participating in the lottery.

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Originally Posted by S_A_Longhorn

Manu is the reason the Spurs lost. Let's not try to dismiss that simply b/c we all love Manu. If Manu gives us a 15-20ppg in this series, we win the series. Game 1 and 5 proved that much in the 4th Qtr.

That being said, an honest assesment needs to be made on Ginobili. He is turning 31, he always plays hurt b/c of his "style of play", and he will eventually lose his explosion becoming a player like Finley or Horry.

I hate to say it, but what if the Spurs traded Ginobili? He still has value right now, and he could garner the Spurs two young players (perhaps J. Smith/R. Childress/J. Johnson combo from the Hawks) to play alongside Bruce, Tim, and Tony.

I'd hate to trade him, but I don't think he will ever be 100% healthy and that affects his game more than the other guys. Once he loses his explosion, he'll be nothing more than a role player.

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Teams will not just give up their future. If you look anywhere it must be at a team who is near the top, possibly Phoenix. But, do you really want to do that? Come on now.

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Originally Posted by ehz33satx

Get over it Jayem! Life goes on and there are more important things in life than basketball. The Spurs have given us (not you Jayem) Spurs fans 10 wonderful years with 4 championships. And every year they go deep into the playoffs. So maybe the fatigue finally caught up with them. I am proud of our Spurs and everything they have done. Sure I am upset that they could not advance farther against the Lakers, who by the way got an injection of fresh legs and new life with Pau Gasol, but I do not in anyway hate the Spurs! If you are going to come on here and bitch every day of your hate for the Spurs, them just go away and pollute some other teams fan forum. It's just a game!

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:toast

Anyone that says Manu was not the reason Spurs lost this series should go watch the tape.
Was he hurt? Certainly. Was he out of gas? Of course. But not acknowledging the fact that with Regular Season Manu Spurs would be in the NBA Finals is just blind.
Unfortunately for us, fatigue and injury kicked in at the worst possible time.

On the other hand stating that Manu is a choker is plain retarded.

I think Manu's health was a huge reason the Spurs lost the series. However, the Spurs and Manu should have come up with a way to adjust. They didn't. No excuses. The Lakers took advantage of the Spurs weaknesses and capitalized. They were the better team and mostly because the Spurs had 1/4 of Manu. Someone on the Spurs should have stepped up. Barry did a good job of that in game four, but others should have chipped in too.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Ginobili not being healthy and able to contribute and create havoc like normally, is a pretty good reason they lost.

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I would agree but I think it was one of the reasons and probably the biggest. No one player wins or loses a series. In the Spurs title years, there were times in the playoffs where one or two of the big 3 were sputtering and someone else stepped up big. Maybe for a game or maybe two but enough to get the team through. That didn't happen in this series.

Jayem is probably the worst human being currently posting on these forums. He would be better served as a bandwagon "fan" of the Lakers.

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

Jayem is probably the worst human being currently posting on these forums. He would be better served as a bandwagon "fan" of the Lakers.

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Or better yet driving off a cliff.

As with many on this board, I have probably seen Manu play 500 games. When he is not right physically it is very apparent. And, he was not right. Ankle, groin, finger, and general fatigue from carrying the team for a month earlier kept him from being his best. Throw in a defense designed to keep him bottled up....yes he had turnovers, but how many great passes to KT or Oberto or others that should have been assists that turned into fumbles, misses, etc. I believe Pop should have played him less or even sat him a game to try and get him back to 70-80% instead of the 50% he played at.

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Originally Posted by samikeyp

I would agree but I think it was one of the reasons and probably the biggest. No one player wins or loses a series. In the Spurs title years, there were times in the playoffs where one or two of the big 3 were sputtering and someone else stepped up big. Maybe for a game or maybe two but enough to get the team through. That didn't happen in this series.

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No 1 player wins, but Parker and Duncan did their part to a point. Had Ginobili, were talking about whos a better matchup, Boston or Detroit.

Manu should sit out the Olympics. If he doesn't Holt ought to crucify his ass.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

I agree, although in deference will admit Manu was injured. If he was any good, the series would have been far different, starting with a Game 1 win.

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I also agree
but to blame it all on him is wrong
however he was a main part of the problem

he was injured some and could not help with the rebounding

As someone else pointed out, Tim and Tony did their part. The one not delivering was Gino. I expected a lot more out of him and the rest of the team. I don't feel we went down swinging. I expected more fire out of these Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

MANU IF YOU ARE READING THIS I HOPE YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU BETTER BRING YOUR BEST GAME NEXT SEASON BITCH. NO EXCUSES!!!!

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:ban:

If the Spurs almost get swept now, what do you think will happen when Bynum comes back? Spurs are done unless they have a miraculous offseason.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

Even the 30 point game wasn't a classic Manu game. He was making his outside shots but he still wasn't creating the kind of havoc Spurs fans are used to.

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True

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Originally Posted by Jayem

Manu said " I feel fine, better than the hornets series."

seriously spurs fans, stop making this excuse!

how can you be hurt when you suck the first few games, magically be better and drop 30, then be hurt again. MANU CHOKED. PERIOD.

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If you watched the games in this series and say, the previous 500 games or so of his career, you would see that Manu was playing on one leg/ankle. The "I'm fine stuff" was for the media.

Skip Bayless is a idiot. Period. End of Story. Skip also is not a fan of the ladies if you know what I mean.

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Originally Posted by picnroll

Manu should sit out the Olympics. If he doesn't Holt ought to crucify his ass.

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Doubtful either one happens unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Harry Callahan

If you watched the games in this series and say, the previous 500 games or so of his career, you would see that Manu was playing on one leg/ankle. The "I'm fine stuff" was for the media.

Skip Bayless is a idiot. Period. End of Story. Skip also is not a fan of the ladies if you know what I mean.

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Yeah typical Spur, won't make excuses.

Through out the series.. how many times did you yell to yourself or the people around you, DAMNIT Ginobili!!

I understand what he has done for the Spurs franchise, and that he was less then 100%. But if you are going to hurt the team with stupid decisions and poor effort, sit down.

Let someone else play who will dive for a loose ball. How wil put zip on their pass.

He had a stellar game 3, but the only difference was he hit those 3 pointers. For the entire series he ROUTINELY made DUMB decisions and got beat on EFFORT plays.

I recorded the series and starting from GAME 1, Ginobili was bringing the Spurs down with his mistakes.

It's like someone reversed Manu. I've seen him win games sheerly on his will. But this WCF was strange, he was a Miasma. There are stretches of the game where he is the Lakers best player.

I seriously think someone kidnapped a relative or something, because it was consistenly playing boneheaded basketball.

Ankle injury fine, but that makes you throw the same slow lazy pass? Even on the last game he was still doing that.

Make adjustments man. Everyone knows when you work the pick and roll how you pass the ball, so don't fucking throw it up for grabs. It's like he tossed it and didn't give a fuck if he turned it over.

Pop gave him way too long of a leash. A competitor like Ginobili isn't going to pull himself out.

If Manu was 100% for the Faker series...Spurs win 4-1. Bayless and the Faker toads can yak all they want, but that is the fact. However, it didn't happen, so Celtics in 6. Fakers and Hornets get to celebrate their division and conference crowns respectively, but that is all they get. :lmao

Agree with jayem. This forum pussifies Manu and over rates him. There always has to be a reason why Manu plays poorly. Mostly I hear he is too tired.

Reality is Manu is an inconsistent player with many ups and downs and in the Laker series he was on a down. Manu is just under the real all stars of the league and should be traded now while he still has value for a younger player with upside star potential. His value is likely to fall rapidly in the next year or two .

Manu was far more injured than he or anyone else in the Spurs organization cared to admit. When was the last time Manu went hard to the rack and dunked? The scoring was missed, but the assists, the rebounds, the steals- the numerous hustle plays, especially in crunch time- dude was nowhere close to the high level of play Spurs fans have come to expect. This shit could not be any more obvious. Did anyone really think that this Spurs team would win the championship with anything less than the big three playing their best? Playing well when it counts, staying healthy, sometimes being a little bit lucky...all necessary in making a championship run. It just did not happen for this year's Spurs. Bayless is a dipshit.

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Originally Posted by Lake_show

If the Spurs almost get swept now, what do you think will happen when Bynum comes back? Spurs are done unless they have a miraculous offseason.

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Bynum :lmao:lmao:lmao

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Originally Posted by rascal

Agree with jayem. This forum pussifies Manu and over rates him. There always has to be a reason why Manu plays poorly. Mostly I hear he is too tired.

Reality is Manu is an inconsistent player with many ups and downs and in the Laker series he was on a down. Manu is just under the real all stars of the league and should be traded now while he still has value for a younger player with upside star potential. His value is likely to fall rapidly in the next year or two .

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Idiot

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Originally Posted by rascal

Agree with jayem. This forum pussifies Manu and over rates him. There always has to be a reason why Manu plays poorly. Mostly I hear he is too tired.

Reality is Manu is an inconsistent player with many ups and downs and in the Laker series he was on a down. Manu is just under the real all stars of the league and should be traded now while he still has value for a younger player with upside star potential. His value is likely to fall rapidly in the next year or two .

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Really? Seriously, you are a grade A jackass.

Nah, Manu deserves his props.

He is one of the rare Wills that can take over a game when he is in the zone.

This hombre was born to play basketball.

It's just he doesn't seem to know how to adjust when he doesn't have it.

It's like a bird with a broken wing still trying to fly.

I never cringed so much in my life for Manu's sake this series.

It was getting to the point I was hoping the ball didn't go near him during crucial moments because it seems he was always making the wrong play.

EVERY time the spurs were just about to get over the hump, it seemed Manu would do something and the Lakers would get the momentum back. Every game except game 3.

It's uncanny. If you have such a High basketball, How do you make so many rookie type mistakes.

I mean the Spurs in general made too many mistakes to win that series, but so much stemmed from Manu and it trickled down.

Cuz Manu is the shit and you can't hold his jock.

This thread makes me nauseous.

Manu is the sixth man Not an all star..Say that to parker! He shouldve steped it up for us because hes the point guard..We expect more from him ..Not manu coming from the bench..Finley as well! .

Idiots, if manu doesn't have a monster reg season the spurs don't even make the playoffs. Parker and Duncan should have brought it in the reg season and maybe you don't have a worn out manu for the playoffs.

I'd like to see Skip do 1st and 10 with a missing fingernail and busted ankle, much less play pro basketball.

Manu was playing at about 50-60% of his normal healthy capacity.

im not going to throw manu under the bus, not because hes my favorite player, but you have to live and die by your stars. thats how this game works. he had a bad series, being injured and all, but its true, he could have played better. his passing was lazy and most of the time off the mark, his driving was nonexistent, his shot was worst than damons, label this series an F for him but expect him to bounce back because this man is a winner.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

I agree, although in deference will admit Manu was injured. If he was any good, the series would have been far different, starting with a Game 1 win.

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Is this the first time in Conference Finals history that the games were sked on an every-other-day format? Very curious that the NBA would put one of the older teams in the league thru that. They definately wanted that Celtics-Flakers finals. I hope the Flakers get their asses handed to them.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

anyone else see 1st and 10 on ESPN first take? skip went off on manu. he even took his jersey and threw it to the floor :lol every thing he said was on point and i agree 100%. but what i don't understand is why aren't you spurs fans crucifying manu also? he cost us the series, he choked...yet you guys wanna go meet him at the airport to say "i love you". fuck that he needs to take the blame and be reminded of it everyday until we make the WCF again. remember how after 06 reportedly manu "felt bad" the entire off season for blowing the series against the mavs. and the next year we won. we should all hope that he is feeling 10x worse now.

MANU IF YOU ARE READING THIS I HOPE YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU BETTER BRING YOUR BEST GAME NEXT SEASON BITCH. NO EXCUSES!!!!

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Is your pic of Splitter in your sig... Shavlick Randolph?

I'll take Manu any day and twice on Sunday. You bunch of whiners.

Skip Bayless is a tool.

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Jayem is a tool.

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