Skip Bayless of ESPN: Manu is the reason Spurs lost

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Originally Posted by Jayem

but he didn't do anything this series. and to top of his poor shooting he was a turnover machine. how can you appreciate that? i'm sorry, you just can't. manu has to take the blame for this and i'm gonna make sure he feels it. whats the link to his official forum?

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LOL. Good job dude.

You tell Manu!

(the ego of the anonymous internet poster is greater than the gravitational force of a black hole... and just as effective at sucking)

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

We're not crucifying Manu because we're not spoiled insecure fucking bitches like you are and we appreciate what Manu has done for this team and what he can do when he's healthy enough.

Fuck your sense of entitlement.

(This is fun)

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I really hate some Spurs fans. Spoiled ass bitches.

and you guys want to talk about "ohh he was injured" well so was KOBE! Kobe is playing with a bad back and a finger that needs surgery! you don't see him choking out there.

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

since the nba will be issuing fines next season with flopping...

trade him now while we still can

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:lol i swear spurs made a big mistake by not getting rid of manu, hes way overrated. injury prone, turnover machine and chokes in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by S_A_Longhorn

I hate to say it, but what if the Spurs traded Ginobili? He still has value right now, and he could garner the Spurs two young players (perhaps J. Smith/R. Childress/J. Johnson combo from the Hawks) to play alongside Bruce, Tim, and Tony.

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You can get that thought out of your mind now. Like Pop said last night in the post-game interview, Tony, Manu and TD will be back next year, and we'll build around them.

Manu was 1) spent, 2) injured and 3) being swarmed by the Lakers. It's no surprise the Lakers focused on Manu either, considering he has been our best player this season. The thing is, nobody in our bench gave us a lift. If Finley scores 10 ppg, Horry scores 10 ppg, and Bones scores 10 ppg, we win game 1 and 4. Maybe even game 5.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

and you guys want to talk about "ohh he was injured" well so was KOBE! Kobe is playing with a bad back and a finger that needs surgery! you don't see him choking out there.



:lol i swear spurs made a big mistake by not getting rid of manu, hes way overrated. injury prone, turnover machine and chokes in the playoffs.

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That just says it all right there. Go fuck yourself troll.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

:lol i swear spurs made a big mistake by not getting rid of manu, hes way overrated. injury prone, turnover machine and chokes in the playoffs.

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Dude, how many Championships do you think we'd have without Manu?

And who do you think we'd get for Manu? Kobe Bryant?!? :lol

Hey, the guy was hurt. It's not like he wanted to be hurt. He courageously tried to play through it but could not. Had he been full strength, perhaps the outcome would've been different. It's no different that Chauncey Billups' hamstring injury. Attrition is just as much a villian of championship hopes as anything else. The only difference is that the Pistons have an adequate backup in place to somewhat offset Billiups' injury. The Spurs, of course, do not. We've seen it all year. Injuries to any member of our core trio have been devastating. It should be no surprise this team faltered in the conference finals. This will become even more prevalent as this trio gets older. So again, if you really want to lay blame into someone, I say lay blame to Pop

Trade for Michael Redd

So the guy unfortunately had one bad series that cost us a chance at the title. That doesn't mean we just give up on him and trade him. He's third team all NBA for a reason.

Hopefully this loss motivates him and he'll be back with a vengeance next year and be better than ever.

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Originally Posted by Jayem

I'm not supposed to say this, so mods please do not reveal my IP.

Javtokas WILL join the Spurs.

The only reason I am confirming this to you guys is because I'm an avid reader of this forum and the endless threads about this subject are killing me. Hopefully you guys can talk about something else now.

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http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...34#post1082434

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Originally Posted by Jayem

anyone else see 1st and 10 on ESPN first take? skip went off on manu. he even took his jersey and threw it to the floor :lol every thing he said was on point and i agree 100%. but what i don't understand is why aren't you spurs fans crucifying manu also? he cost us the series, he choked...yet you guys wanna go meet him at the airport to say "i love you". fuck that he needs to take the blame and be reminded of it everyday until we make the WCF again. remember how after 06 reportedly manu "felt bad" the entire off season for blowing the series against the mavs. and the next year we won. we should all hope that he is feeling 10x worse now.

MANU IF YOU ARE READING THIS I HOPE YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU BETTER BRING YOUR BEST GAME NEXT SEASON BITCH. NO EXCUSES!!!!

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Basketball isn't a one mans' game :rolleyes

Therefore, YOU and your thread SUX!

Manu is so great for someone who played less 28 minutes per game in his career.

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Originally Posted by Lake_show

Manu is so great for someone who played less 28 minutes per game in his career.

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Where were you the last 5 years when Manu was winning it all?
Right, you can go back to your cave now.

Another "golden oldie" from Jayem... this one way back in 2007... after we lost ONE Game! Against the Nuggets! LOL

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Originally Posted by Jayem

THE SPURS ARE DONE.

I know its hard for us fans to accept this but we really need to. We should see things for what they are and stop fooling ourselves. WE ARE NOT going to win this year or again anytime soon. We shouldn't let being fans cloud the truth. Its like Kings fans thinking they got a shot, thats how we look.

We had our time to shine, we got some some rings. Everything must come to an end. We should continue to root and support our guys but we got to be realistic.

It was fun while it lasted.

Good luck Dallas and Phoenix, the cycle will repeat and the Spurs one day will be back on top.

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Yeah, keep talking smack, Spurs "fan".

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...93#post1600793

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Originally Posted by MadDog73

Dude, how many Championships do you think we'd have without Manu?

And who do you think we'd get for Manu? Kobe Bryant?!? :lol

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it was possible, the year kobe signed his max contract, he was toying around about exploring the FA....

it wouldve cost the spurs parker/ginoboli...and a few pieces to get it to work...

Ginobili not being healthy and able to contribute and create havoc like normally, is a pretty good reason they lost.

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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY

it was possible, the year kobe signed his max contract, he was toying around about exploring the FA....

it wouldve cost the spurs parker/ginoboli...and a few pieces to get it to work...

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The key being Tony AND Manu.

Manu straight up would give us somebody < Manu.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

We're not crucifying Manu because we're not spoiled insecure fucking bitches like you are and we appreciate what Manu has done for this team and what he can do when he's healthy enough.

Fuck your sense of entitlement.

(This is fun)

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word.

Manu was obviously hurt. No lateral movement, no explosiveness, slow.

Any person with common sense can see that. Manu does not need to spell it out for you. Manu gives no excuses, so if asked, he will say "I am fine"

the OP is an :idiot

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Originally Posted by Jayem

Manu said " I feel fine, better than the hornets series."

seriously spurs fans, stop making this excuse!

how can you be hurt when you suck the first few games, magically be better and drop 30, then be hurt again. MANU CHOKED. PERIOD.

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Get over it Jayem! Life goes on and there are more important things in life than basketball. The Spurs have given us (not you Jayem) Spurs fans 10 wonderful years with 4 championships. And every year they go deep into the playoffs. So maybe the fatigue finally caught up with them. I am proud of our Spurs and everything they have done. Sure I am upset that they could not advance farther against the Lakers, who by the way got an injection of fresh legs and new life with Pau Gasol, but I do not in anyway hate the Spurs! If you are going to come on here and bitch every day of your hate for the Spurs, them just go away and pollute some other teams fan forum. It's just a game!

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Originally Posted by T Park

Ginobili not being healthy and able to contribute and create havoc like normally, is a pretty good reason they lost.

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Now, I completely understand why many don't like you around here :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by S_A_Longhorn

Manu is the reason the Spurs lost. Let's not try to dismiss that simply b/c we all love Manu. If Manu gives us a 15-20ppg in this series, we win the series. Game 1 and 5 proved that much in the 4th Qtr.

That being said, an honest assesment needs to be made on Ginobili. He is turning 31, he always plays hurt b/c of his "style of play", and he will eventually lose his explosion becoming a player like Finley or Horry.

I hate to say it, but what if the Spurs traded Ginobili? He still has value right now, and he could garner the Spurs two young players (perhaps J. Smith/R. Childress/J. Johnson combo from the Hawks) to play alongside Bruce, Tim, and Tony.
I'd hate to trade him, but I don't think he will ever be 100% healthy and that affects his game more than the other guys. Once he loses his explosion, he'll be nothing more than a role player.

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No, I think Manu has some good years left. Spurs need to build around the big three; have the guys in place so when the transition comes, it won't be painful as in participating in the lottery.

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Originally Posted by S_A_Longhorn

Manu is the reason the Spurs lost. Let's not try to dismiss that simply b/c we all love Manu. If Manu gives us a 15-20ppg in this series, we win the series. Game 1 and 5 proved that much in the 4th Qtr.

That being said, an honest assesment needs to be made on Ginobili. He is turning 31, he always plays hurt b/c of his "style of play", and he will eventually lose his explosion becoming a player like Finley or Horry.

I hate to say it, but what if the Spurs traded Ginobili? He still has value right now, and he could garner the Spurs two young players (perhaps J. Smith/R. Childress/J. Johnson combo from the Hawks) to play alongside Bruce, Tim, and Tony.

I'd hate to trade him, but I don't think he will ever be 100% healthy and that affects his game more than the other guys. Once he loses his explosion, he'll be nothing more than a role player.

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Teams will not just give up their future. If you look anywhere it must be at a team who is near the top, possibly Phoenix. But, do you really want to do that? Come on now.

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Originally Posted by ehz33satx

Get over it Jayem! Life goes on and there are more important things in life than basketball. The Spurs have given us (not you Jayem) Spurs fans 10 wonderful years with 4 championships. And every year they go deep into the playoffs. So maybe the fatigue finally caught up with them. I am proud of our Spurs and everything they have done. Sure I am upset that they could not advance farther against the Lakers, who by the way got an injection of fresh legs and new life with Pau Gasol, but I do not in anyway hate the Spurs! If you are going to come on here and bitch every day of your hate for the Spurs, them just go away and pollute some other teams fan forum. It's just a game!

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