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funny how people on this board keep saying "It's so stupid that black people are making a racial issue out of this.....but if Vick were white he wouldn't get support/love/an easy sentence....."
No, but this much public outrage should be reserved for those types of criminals.
They deserve alot more vile treatment than a dogfighter receives. Look at Enron. Those guys got put into a white collar resort, and Lay had a huge public funeral with very little protest. Meanwhile, there are some people in the media who have clamed that Vick deserves the DEATH PENALTY.
funny how people on this board keep saying "It's so stupid that black people are making a racial issue out of this.....but if Vick were white he wouldn't get support/love/an easy sentence....."
Last edited by monosylab1k; 08-28-2007 at 01:42 PM. Reason: clarification for any racists reading
Is Michael Vick going to prison? He is? Then he's being help accountable.
google search "michael vick death penalty" and see for yourself.
he's not a member of the media, but a US Senator also supports the execution of dogfighting serial killer Michael Vick, and also mentions the special place in that he'll be going to.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...,00.html?=vick
I don't really understand what people want. Vick did the best thing he could do in this situation, he made a public apology. And now he's going to jail.
At this point, getting all bent out of shape about his sincerity is just beating a dead horse. You'd have to be delusional to think he suddenly learned the error of his ways, but he still did the right thing by taking responsibility for his actions and not playing the victim. I don't think we should congratulate him or anything, but it doesn't seem like anything to complain about either.
Can't wait for the season to start...
The Klan member Robert Bryd. Intresting!!!
So Vick will end up doing more time than OJ or Kobe. Some justice.
He's sorry and he found god. Isn't that enough? I mean he was innocent until proven guilty and then he admitted guilt to felony crimes and partaking in the murder of innocent dogs. Isn't it enough that he was man enough to admit it, god will save him now, lets not judge him because he's black. Forget the crimes, when a young filthy rich black athlete makes life changing decisions and breaks the law in more ways than one he should be let off the hook so long as he admits guilt, apologizes and finds god. you people are racist.
He's going to prison. That's hardly being let off the hook.
Thats not in stone yet but I sure as hope so. You do realize what I wrote was sarcasm though don't you.
Damn right. Everyone should get the over it.
The system is running the course and is almost finished. Get over it.
Blue text, ftw!
This was in my local paper this morning. I found it an interesting take.
Does Vick get forgiven by the fans?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/mic...-public-player
Does Michael Vick deserve our forgiveness?
The suspended, troubled Atlanta Falcons quarterback took the first step in that direction with his public mea culpa.
MARCIA C. SMITH
Just after he entered his guilty plea on a federal dogfighting charge in a Richmond, Va., courtroom on Monday morning, Michael Vick called his most famous audible.
His words drowned out by the shutter sounds of camera-clicking photographers, the NFL quarterback who bankrolled the vicious dogfighting enterprise out of his backyard Bad Newz Kennels made a play for our forgiveness.
Vick, who couldn’t win the world back with a hundred Hail Marys right now, merely scored a few points for himself. He made the necessary apologies, admitted to lying to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, claimed to have “found Jesus” and promised to redeem himself.
All in a one-play, 4½-minute opening damage-control drive toward salvaging his reputation and his NFL career.
He didn’t scramble for anything outrageous, as he had done so often leaving the pocket on the football field. On this day he was simply effective, running the all-important “I’m sorry” offense in the latest defense staged by yet another fallen sports superstar.
As sports fans in this era of pros turned cons, we’ve witnessed many of these public displays of contrition, from tearful Laker Kobe Bryant admitting adultery in the wake of sexual-assault charges to more crying from New York Yankees slugger Jason Giambi when he made a thinly veiled admission of steroids use.
Coming clean marked the beginning of image recovery for Bryant and Giambi. Monday’s plea in both the federal and public-opinion courts was Vick’s first step toward redemption, which should eventually arrive, but not anytime soon.
Vick, the Atlanta Falcons icon known in court do ents as “Ookie” who staged pit bull maulings in carpeted pits and knowingly allowed weaker canines to be executed by drowning and electrocution, has penance to perform before he can even consider resuming a football –- or pet sitting -- career.
The public will demand that Vick suffers. The animal-rights activists behind the organized outrage might demand Vick be imprisoned and then sent to swim in a shark tank while wearing a sirloin bikini. Those sports fans who’ve rightfully become fed up with misbehaving athletes might want Vick –- the highest-paid player in America’s most popular major pro sport -- banned from the honor of being in the NFL.
But those in the more forgiving sports world probably won’t be that hard on this fallen hero.
History has shown that fans will need time, maybe an NFL season or two without the former 2001 top-drafted talent, before he can return reformed and rehabilitated to our football Sundays under our clean-living terms of probation.
Only after his Dec. 10 sentencing, punishment and a sufficiently long NFL exile, can the option quarterback make football an option.
As we have seen with athletes who’ve been caught for committing crimes against people, the public has the power to forgive. The public likes to forgive, to root for comebacks in games, in life, with underdogs and maybe with ex-under-dogfighters.
Vick stuck to the public-relations playbook perfectly. He confessed his wrongdoing. He took responsibility for “the things I’ve done and allowed to happen.”
He acknowledged dog fighting as “terrible, and I reject it.” He admitted his poor judgment, his dishonesty, his shame and his failures in front of fans, especially the kids who once proudly wore their No. 7 jerseys.
Having failed as their role model, a solemn Vick asked to become their cautionary tale. He said, “I need to grow up.”
Vick didn’t need to say anything. He could’ve hidden behind his attorney and the tinted windows of the SUV caravan that takes him to court.
But Vick, saying that he was speaking “from the heart,” made the right move. His public appeal came without leaking crocodile tears and without reading from lawyer/spin doctor-prepared statement. He spoke with words that collapsed into mumbles at times beneath the heavy weight of remorse.
Vick stood in front of the world as a man who has already lost almost everything.
His multimillion-dollar endorsement portfolio is empty, with everyone from Nike to Rawlings to Upper Deck having abandoned him.
His NFL playing days, which awarded him a $130 million, multiyear contract in 2004, have been suspended indefinitely. Falcons owner Arthur Blank on Monday said his team, which is currently consumed with trying to recover bags of money from its franchise player, won’t cut Vick right now, pending Goodell’s NFL sentence.
Vick's iden y as a football player will be forever tainted by his off-the-field crimes involving animal cruelty, and his reputation as both a player and a man is ruined.
But his life, the off-the-field persona Vick spoke about in the third-person, isn’t over.
Michael Vick, the man, seeks redemption. Michael Vick, the player, awaits our forgiveness.
And Monday’s display should be the start of both the man’s and the player’s second chance.
Why do any of the criminal athletic class deserve forgiveness? So long as their justice bears a faint resemblance to the justice meeted out to the less famous and less wealthy, the criminal behavior will continue. Only when the en lement to their millions disappears in light of criminal conduct will some of these athletic gods finally get the message.
this is the first and possibly only time i will agree with every word that monosylab1k
has posted in this thread.
You are a disgrace to every African American on this earth who has ever worked hard to make something of themselves and succeeded -- unlike your boy Vick.
Here ya go, keep playing this card and see how far you get !
I'm not black.You are a disgrace to every African American on this earth who has ever worked hard to make something of themselves and succeeded -- unlike your boy Vick.
Here ya go, keep playing this card and see how far you get !
But thanks for taking what I said and assuming that I'm black just because of my stance.
I don't care if you're white, black, brown, blue or green -- you are STILL a disgrace to the African Americans by saying that Vick was only convicted because he was "black". How many black and white guys do you think were passed over when Vick was give a $130 million dollar football contract? And what about the Spurs - predominantly black and the epitome of CLASS and INTEGRITY. So get off your bullcrap that Vick was convicted - after ADMITTING his guilt -- because he was black !!
Your reading comprehension needs a lot of work.
point out where i said that. find the post.
because all i've seen in this thread is that someone said "if Vick were white he would have no supporters". is he a disgrace to white people for saying that?
So your hearing and reading skills suck, you were dealt a rough hand in life huh?
all the ones who aren't as athletically gifted as him.
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