You're on crack if you think the Spurs are going to win 65 games. Pop and the boys will give away at least 5 games that they should win by limiting minutes and tinkering with groups and sets. To win 65, Pop owould have to burn out the starters and I can't see him doing that -- particularly not in an effort to finish 6 games up in the conference or 10 games up in the division.
You're even crazier if you think Utah is good enough to make an 8 game jump from 51 to 59. That's a monsterous leap.
Also, if the Warriors hold the tiebreaker over the Suns, they'd have to be the 4 seed, not the 5. If they're the best Pacific teams and have the same record, then the team holding the tiebreaker has to be the better seed -- that would be true even if they weren't in the same division, though.
There you go again, using logic and facts. Don't confuse SpursDynasty.
Lets see....Suns vs. Lakers had:
1) The Kobe Dunk over Nash
2) Kobe Shot to tie game 4 at the end of regulation
3) Kobe fadeaway to win game 4 in overtime
4) Raja's clotheline of Kobe.
5) The Tim Thomas three pointer.
What I remember from Spurs vs Mavs:
1) Ginobili foul
2) Someone punching someone else in the balls.
Am I forgetting something?
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The really frustating aspect of the entire Pacers fiasco is that Indiana was the "almost" team of the '90s. They were never quite good enough to get past either Jordan or Shaq. The team had a little lull for a season or two, but began building steam again in 2002-2003. (Recall, this was the team that received the "model small market franchise" accolades before San Antonio rightfully supplanted them.) A few ill-advised moves and off-court incidents later, and we are now looking like the Timberwolves East.
At the time, I saw this happening and said, "Well, this is the beginning of the end." I began saying that as early as the night of the Auburn Hills brawl. I really began annoying people with my gloom and doom when Miller retired. Still, somehow it is also mystifying and very sudden.
That "Cornerstone" series was one of the worst, if not the absolute worst, features I have ever seen on a major internet site. I don't even know where to begin, since apparently, the authors didn't either. [Rimshot on snare]
Thank you, and be sure to tip your waitress. Texas audiences are the greatest audiences in the world!
You're forgetting a great deal -- though I suspect we're treading into unwitting revelations about your basketball i.q. and things of that nature.
I'm not sure how a few isolated incidents like that can top a series in which two 60-win teams competed ferociously against each other to the tune of two overtime games (Games 4 and 7), including an overtime Game 7, AND three other games (Games 1, 3, and 5) decided by two points or less.
Here's one in terms that you might understand, too: the Mavs/Spurs series in 2006 had 3 games in which both teams scored more than 100 points; the Lakers/Suns series that year had 2.
Of course, understanding why that was a great series would take some understanding of the difference between great basketball and great moments -- one makes a series great; the other creates a singular memory.
I should have given this some more thought. I too am both loving and hating the soap operas that will be your 2007-2008 Knicks and Lakers. Loving their misery. Hating the unending, mind-numbing coverage of non-events.
I think the entire Eastern Conference should be forced to watch Hoosiers 3-4 times and then write a 10,000 word critical essay on the basketball philosophy of Coach Norman Dale. I'm not sure if the players will actually benefit, but I'm sure we would all get a big kick out of reading the essays...
The Suns vs. Lakers was also an extremely emotional, hard-fought basketball series. But thats nothing new...these happen all the time in the playoffs. But the TRULY great series are the ones that forever instill themselves in our memories.
Mavs vs. Spurs was completely forgettable.
Remember Lakers vs. Blazers 2000? Or Lakers vs. Kings 2002?
Now look again at Mavs vs. Spurs 2006.
Are you serious?
Last edited by da_suns_fan__; 09-21-2007 at 01:17 PM.
To you, perhaps -- not to most of those who bothered to watch it.
Absolutely. I think Mavs/Spurs 2006 was truly among the great playoff series in recent memory and perhaps among the greatest of all-time. It would have been even better if it had been in a Conference Finals, of course, but it was so good that it forced a change in seeding rules. Hard to say that it didn't have an impact.
Agreed.
Even Duncan said it was the best series he's ever played in.
As a Spurs fan, I would have preferred a different outcome but there's no denying that it was an intense series.
Any true NBA basketball fan would have to agree. It doesn't matter whether you're a fan of either team or niether team. It was a great series.
Spurs-Mavs 06 is definitely up there for among the greatest series of all-time. If you argue otherwise, you're disengenuous or you don't know what great basketball is aside from SportsCenter highlights.
Are you re ed?
Spurs vs. Mavs was a VERY emotional, hard fought series. Perhaps you forgot this was the very season after Michael Finley got dumped by the Mavericks after years of working his ass of for them to win a le, and then faced them in the playoffs the very next year. The fact that Finley and Terry were teammates, and Terry punched him in the groin. The fact that the Mavs and Spurs have had a long-time rivalry, in which the Spurs were constantly ahead of the Mavericks, and the Mavericks finally beat them, in an OT game, on the road. The fact that the Mavericks had a 3-1 series lead, and the Spurs came back and made it a great series. Michael Finley having monsterous dunks on his former team, and hitting a huge three as his team was battling back in game 7, and then the Manu Ginobili three at home in a very intense arena that would pretty much have ended the game for any other team, especially after making a comeback the way they did, and then for the Mavericks to find a way to get it to OT and have the balls to finish them off. The incredible performances game after game by Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki. The ridiculous shot by Jason Terry over Tim Duncan as the shot clock expired. Bruce Bowen's block on Dirk. The entire series was loaded with emotion and intensity between these two teams.
There were far more memorable moments in that series than you give it credit for having, which years from now will definitely be looked at as one of the greatest playoff series of all time.
He's too dumb or too biased to agree with you, so while everything you wrote is spot-on, it's also a waste.
Oh well. Suns fans are flukes anyways. We are all just owning a Suns fan that we are supposed to own.
It's one thing that can bring Mavs fans and Spurs fans together.
Like I said, we may have found the way for da_suns_fan to unwittingly demonstrate a lack of basketball i.q. That's not such a bad thing.
Yes, Suns trolls have indeed helped bring about a reconciliation between the two fanbases. So, that's a good thing. We can both enjoying clowning them.
History does repeat itself. Just as the Nazis brought the USSR and the US together ever so briefly, such is it with Suns trolls.
I've always felt that I was a uniter, not a divider.
But you guys are seriously kidding yourselves.
A seven game series without a single memorable moment between two teams who didn't win the le.
Happens EVERY year!!!
Don't be angry because the Suns and Lakers gave us all something to remember.
And what a series it was
It was a good series, if you could take a moment to stop patting the Suns on the back, you would find most of us here would be in general agreement. But Spurs/Mavs 06 was better. If you want to argue against that, good luck.I've always felt that I was a uniter, not a divider.
But you guys are seriously kidding yourselves.
A seven game series without a single memorable moment between two teams who didn't win the le.
Happens EVERY year!!!
Don't be angry because the Suns and Lakers gave us all something to remember.
And what a series it was
The Spurs vs. Mavs must be the first "great" series in NBA HISTORY that is so immemorable that their OWN FANS can't even remember any great moments from it!!!!
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a seven game series without a single memorable moment between two teams who also didn't win the le? nor make it out of the west. YEAHHHHH DOGGGGG, wayyyyyyyyyy more memorableI've always felt that I was a uniter, not a divider.
But you guys are seriously kidding yourselves.
A seven game series without a single memorable moment between two teams who didn't win the le.
Happens EVERY year!!!
Don't be angry because the Suns and Lakers gave us all something to remember.
And what a series it was
You must have missed the list I provided.a seven game series without a single memorable moment between two teams who also didn't win the le? nor make it out of the west. YEAHHHHH DOGGGGG, wayyyyyyyyyy more memorable
Ahh...Johnny Ringo is here.....
Cue the SOns "insults".
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