Is Malik Rose the Best of All-Time?

[MI21]

Isn't that Keith Mcleod, not Baron Davis?

[MI21]

I like this post.

Malik was the in . He did it all for the Spurs, regular season or playoffs..



Whether it be hustling...



...or pumping his team mates up...



or making the big offensive play...



...or defending players "out of his league"...



...to putting it all on the line against far bigger players...

Malik did everything asked of him. I would agree that in my time watching the Spurs, he has been the best bench player. Some of his performances in the 2002 and 2003 playoffs are my most memorable performances by a Spurs.

Wish you were still a Spur, 'Lik.

[Solid D]

Isn't that Keith Mcleod, not Baron Davis?

Yes.

Rose is right there at the top but Robert Horry, the man who beat Malik out for minutes, now has as many championships (2) as a Spurs player.

Ginobili came off the bench enough last season to place second in the Sixth Man voting, so he should be on the list and rather high on it. John Havlicek was one of Boston's best starters AND their best bench player of all time - Manu has his similarities.

[Holt's Cat]

At least when Malik was a Spur, beating the Mavs in the postseason wasn't in doubt.

[Jimcs50]

I do not think that any bench player has ever had the numbers that Malik had in 02-03, not to mention the things that he did to help win that did not show up in the box score. So, I my answer is yes.

[Solid D]

At least when Malik was a Spur, beating the Mavs in the postseason wasn't in doubt.

I'm as big a Malik fan as Holt's Cat is, however, when Malik was a Spur...Steve Nash and Raja Bell were the Mavs backcourt, Michael Finley was the SF and Raef LaFrentz was their Center and the Spurs of today are still beating a backcourt of Steve Nash and Raja Bell without Malik.

Josh Howard!

[Holt's Cat]

Avery Johnson!

The only NBA head coaches to ever dispatch Tim Duncan in the postseason have been Jerry Sloan, Phil Jackson, and Avery Johnson.

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Isn't that Keith Mcleod, not Baron Davis?

Crap.

Well timvp still has Butler pimping hanging around his neck. And I'm rooting for a second year Elson to feed him his fill of crow.

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Spurs don't carry the payroll to keep a high quality 6th man around longterm. Witness Jackson, Hedo, Antonio Daniels. Long term all had the potential to be better sixth men.

[Solid D]

To your original point, Holt's Cat...I do remember fondly how the Mavs would go small and David Robinson would struggle against their small look, so Malik would come in and make all the difference in the world. Malik WAS normally awesome versus the Mavs.

Also, another point for Ginobili being high on the list...back in 2003, Ginobili came off the bench behind Jack.

[TMTTRIO]

Since Manu's probably going to continue to be a bench player (off and on), I think you have to consider him up there at the top of the list. Not only does he score and make hustle plays but he's one of our top guys to go to during "clutch" time. Before people say he doesn't qualify, he's played enough games to win the 6MOY award.

[angel_luv]

Since Manu's probably going to continue to be a bench player (off and on), I think you have to consider him up there at the top of the list. Not only does he score and make hustle plays but he's one of our top guys to go to during "clutch" time. Before people say he doesn't qualify, he's played enough games to win the 6MOY award.

Excellent take.

[my2sons]

Spurs don't carry the payroll to keep a high quality 6th man around longterm. Witness Jackson, Hedo, Antonio Daniels. Long term all had the potential to be better sixth men.

JJ got his fat contract and got fat. Money wasn't the reason he left.

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JJ got his fat contract and got fat. Money wasn't the reason he left.

Stephen

[hater]

Manu or Horry by far

[cherylsteele]

I think it is Malik:

Here is a bit of trivia I found on Wikipedia:
Malik was the first player of an opposing team of the Boston Celtics to win the Tommy Award, which is given by Celtics broadcaster and former great Tommy Heinsohn to the player who displayed the most hustle and enthusiasm during the game.

[Hemotivo]

Scola

[2centsworth]

Speedy Claxton is probably the most overrated Spur of all time.

I'll never forget the year after the le people were raving about how he saved the Spurs over and over again throughout the season and postseason with his stellar 3 point shooting. Meanwhile, he never hit a 3 in a Spurs uniform.

Speedy did a good job here (when he could stay healthy), but he's definitely overrated by a lot of Spurs fans.

he had a very nice playoff run both offensively and defensively. Also, he threatened to take Tony's job away at the beginning of the year.

He was a way above average backup.

[Referee]

Billy Paultz

[timvp]

Wouldn't it be better to have Beno being owned by someone other than Davis?

Isn't that Keith Mcleod, not Baron Davis?

Classic.

Beno's defense is so bad that he literally makes Keith McLeod look like Baron Davis.

Crap.

Well timvp still has Butler pimping hanging around his neck. And I'm rooting for a second year Elson to feed him his fill of crow.

Butler was traded before he ever got to show how good or bad he could become. Elson, by the laws of Spurs basketball, has to be better this season. But even if he played like the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain, I'd still rather be in my shoes than be on record as calling Beno the best defensive guard on the Spurs

Spurs don't carry the payroll to keep a high quality 6th man around longterm. Witness Jackson, Hedo, Antonio Daniels. Long term all had the potential to be better sixth men.

Jackson and Hedo were both starters.

I think it is Malik:

Here is a bit of trivia I found on Wikipedia:
Malik was the first player of an opposing team of the Boston Celtics to win the Tommy Award, which is given by Celtics broadcaster and former great Tommy Heinsohn to the player who displayed the most hustle and enthusiasm during the game.

Nice find

speedy had a very nice playoff run both offensively and defensively.

Defensively? Never heard of anyone claim Speedy played defense.

Also, he threatened to take Tony's job away at the beginning of the year.

That never happened.

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry, I was high on the guy too -- but Butler's performance in Vegas proved he was never going play a meaningful role on the Spurs.

[T Park]

What team did Speedy play defense against?

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Butler was traded before he ever got to show how good or bad he could become. Elson, by the laws of Spurs basketball, has to be better this season. But even if he played like the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain, I'd still rather be in my shoes than be on record as calling Beno the best defensive guard on the Spurs

Jackson and Hedo were both starters.

You were more upset about the Butler trade than the Scola trade. Let's see how that works out.

True Jackson and Hedo were starters but they would have either come off the bench or planted Manu firmly as a 6th man and ...

Manu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Malik

[timvp]

You were more upset about the Butler trade than the Scola trade. Let's see how that works out.

That was the same trade. And no, I wasn't more upset with Butler leaving than Scola leaving.

Didn't you like the trade?

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That was the same trade. And no, I wasn't more upset with Butler leaving than Scola leaving.

Didn't you like the trade?

Didn't like the Scola part. Would have been glad toget rid of Butler for the cap relief that the Spurs would use to sign someone else.

I distinctly remember you groaning far more about losing Butler particularly due to his "awesome" play in SL you were raving about which I frankly didn't think was that hot.