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Come to think of it, Barry is the last of our Geriatric All-Stars that I'd want to lose. maybe because he reminds me so much of myself.
Wishful thinking. Portland would never do it.
But I wouldn't want us to do it. Who'd speak at the Post-Championship Celebrations? We need Barry's personality and locker room presence, winning without Barry just wouldn't be the same.
Leave Barry alone, we know he has an expiring contract and that his name flashed about last year (JR Smith), But thank god that never happened.
Come to think of it, Barry is the last of our Geriatric All-Stars that I'd want to lose. maybe because he reminds me so much of myself.
Barry can dunk from the free throw line. Outlaw can't (as far as I know/seen).
Nice blast
That's closer to the GW I remember. Seriously though, teams looking to shed salary are the ones that could use an expiring contract. Unless you want to take back Darius Miles, I don't think Portland is looking to dump anyone.
Perhaps you'd take Miles. He's certainly a balla.
Umm.......nah !
I read somewhere about all the players the Blazers have here, stashed in Europe, and the draft picks they have in next year's draft. The article suggested that somehow they are going to have to divest themselves of 3-4 players...
However, I doubt Outlaw will be one of them. He's coming into his own, and they've got him for 2 more years at $4mil/yr. They'd be morons to give him up just as he is becoming a force.
Well, the Blazer could be interested in moving a SF. They have Webster, Outlaw and Jones. I don't know what happend to Miles but I doubt he will be back. The only way to get Outlaw would be to take on another big contract. One that comes to my mind is Pryzbilla. He has a long contract and might be expandable with Oden, McRoberts, LaFrentz, Frye and Aldridge. They could dump around 8 milion of salary which is a lot.
Przybilla/Outlaw for Barry/Elson would work. So would Przybilla/ Webster for Barry/Elson
It woud leave Portland with:
Blake/ Jack
Roy/ Barry
Webster*/ Jones/ Miles
Aldridge/ Frye/ McRoberts
Oden/ Elson/ LaFrentz
... and 8 mio comming off the books
SA would have:
TP/Damon/ Vaughn
Manu/Fin
Bowen/ Outlaw*/ Udoka
TD/Horry/ Bonner
Przybilla/ Oberto
The big question is if those players would be worth taking on so much salary. I remember the Spurs were interested in Joel but his contract is really big. It would kill financial flexibility.
I think it is really unlikely to happen but that is the only scenario I could imagine the Blazers even think about moving one of their young wings.
* Webster and Outlaw are interchangeable
Having outlaw would be like having barry, so why bother swap them? They do the same things...barry I think is a better off in terms of playoff experience. Besides, It doesn't help our team in any significant way. Solve the problems and don't trade just to see what happens.
How dumb do you think the BLazers are?! Young teams like the BLazers, Jazz and even the Lakers ...are waiting for the Spurs to get old why would they make that deal?!
Outlaw plays nothing like Artest.He is athletic, guard anyone from a SG to a PF, hit 3s and can block shots.
Reminds me a lot of Artest minus all the baggage.
They have opposite body types, Outlaw is tall for his position, Artest is not. One is a supreme athlete but not very strong... and the other is an average athlete and very strong. Outlaw relies on his midrange game, athleticism, slashing moves to the hoop and smart shot selection, specifically his midrange which has improved so much it is unbelievable. He must of worked so hard to improve that.
Artest relies on brute force, good footwork and crafty veteran type fakes and using his body to gain the advantage on his defender and is a known offense breaker due to his bad shots. Offensively, they are almost opposites.
Defensively, Artest is intimidating and strong with good hands, good anticipation and good balance. Outlaw is quick, jumpy and good laterally.
GW, they are really almost complete opposites!
Miles blows.Nice blast
That's closer to the GW I remember. Seriously though, teams looking to shed salary are the ones that could use an expiring contract. Unless you want to take back Darius Miles, I don't think Portland is looking to dump anyone.
Perhaps you'd take Miles. He's certainly a balla.
D@mmit... you can tell I am desperate for an injection of youth and athleticism on this team. I want an able-bodied defender who can block a few shots!
Any realistic trade scenarios out there?
P.S.
I hear you guys, but if you look at Portland's roster, they really don't have any championship experience or reliable 3-point shooting. I know this idea of Barry for Outlaw is a reach at best. I'm trying.
Barry + Elson for Eddy Curry?
I will add that I like the idea of Outlaw, or James Jones for that matter. I think they are invested in Webster, high-ish draft pic, hometown product and an absolute pure shooter. He is probably the least impressive of the 3 at the moment, but he has the potential to turn into the best scorer, for sure. With Oden and Aldridge on the inside for the future, they probably value that potential more than whatever Outlaw or Jones can bring.
Eddie Curry is slow, does not pass out of the block and can't block shots. No.
Maybe he just refuses to do it?
Last edited by SlovenianGuy; 02-12-2008 at 11:13 AM.
I seem to recall that James Jones will be an UFA this summer. Unless the Spurs really believe that need him now, they could probably wait until this summer - assuming they're really, really interested in him.
you know what a good trade would be? barry and elson for artest. if we can handle stephen jackson we can handle artest for the remainder of this year. it would work with the salaries and artest wants out. its perfect.
Where has this guy been for the last month?
I'm all for it, but the homers fear Artest.
He's worth the risk.
yeah he would be playing for a championship team, wouldnt be stunting the growth of anyone playing behind him, and im sure jackson would talk to him that being with the spurs is good since he still stays tight with a lot of the players.
If Kings keep Bibby they don't need Barry. Mikki Moore is bad, but Elson isn't an upgrade either. That makes this trade Artest for an expiring and 3 million dollars burden.
Why should Kings do this trade?
It's publicly known that they can get at least Lee or Balkman if they trade Artest to the Knicks.
well it would give the kings the chance to play salmons and garcia more and cap room this summer for a decent power forward. they arent going to make the playoffs this year so they might as well let that group develop.
No thanks to a lunatic chemistry killer.
You said same thing about freeing Stephen Jackson.
travis outlaw is only paid $4 million dollars per season till the 2009-10 season which is a true bargain considering his production and potential. why would they want to dump the contract?
1)
If they want, they can sit Artest and play Salmons and Garcia as much as they want.
2)
Artest said he'll likely opt out after this season (link). This means that Kings will have more cap room if they keep Artest than they would have if they traded him for Barry and Elson.
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