Would trading Ginobili help the spurs?

[2centsworth]

btw, this summer Manu lets us know that the spurs were secondary on his basketball list of priorities.

As a fan, loyalty to Manu is secondary to the success of the spurs.

[kace]

Manu will retire as a spur. i'm sure about it and it's the way it should be. stop asking a trade.

[rascal]

Casual fans that think they know anything about the NBA really make me laugh.

When has Manu EVER been a franchise player in the NBA? When has Manu EVER seen double teams on a consistent basis? I'll tell you, Never.

Carter? He's been the franchise player on every team he's been on. He has been the go-to guy. And Manu is only averaging so many points in so little minutes because he's gunning. Per 48 minute stats are illusions and horse . Carter is shooting roughly the same percentage as Manu from the floor and he faces double teams on a nightly basis. I could just imagine what Carter would be able to do with Tim Duncan on his team. Recently Shaq said the only difference between Carter and Kobe was that Carter has never played with a great big man like Kobe has.

Good post. Only homer spur fans think Manu is better than Carter. They always bring up Manu has won championships and Carter hasn't. By doing that you bring teammates into the equation and the comparisons can go out the window when you do that.

[TMTTRIO]

Manu will retire as a spur. i'm sure about it and it's the way it should be. stop asking a trade.

I'm not sure about that. I could possibly see Manu going elsewhere and I wouldn't blame him for that.

[rascal]

THIS

The sad thing is, Spurs fans already had an opportunity early this season to get a taste of life without Manu. Just because we scraped by a couple of terrible/injured teams does not mean we'd be fine without him.

Appreciate what you have now, the greener grass is an illusion.

Yes but you are not considering what Manu would bring in a trade also being on the spurs team that was playing earlier in the season.

[DAF86]

Good post. Only homer spur fans think Manu is better than Carter. They always bring up Manu has won championships and Carter hasn't. By doing that you bring teammates into the equation and the comparisons can go out the window when you do that.

Only stupid fans that let themselves fool by flashy dunks and meaningless stats think that Carter is better than Manu.

[DAF86]

btw, this summer Manu lets us know that the spurs were secondary on his basketball list of priorities.

As a fan, loyalty to Manu is secondary to the success of the spurs.

And what did they let us know when he settled for less money in benefit of the team?

[rascal]

we're probably much better off hoping Manu can re-gain his form, since that would be a better player than anybody we could get in return..

It would be better to get a quality frontline player like Camby. With Hill and Mason the 2 guard should be good enough. I believe Hill has the tools to be a future star in the league. He just needs playing time to develope his confidence.

[it's me]

It would be better to get a quality frontline player like Camby. With Hill and Mason the 2 guard should be good enough. I believe Hill has the tools to be a future star in the league. He just needs playing time to develope his confidence.

Ooooh I remember that thread … ur the same moron that thinks Manu is taking Hill’s minutes hahaha

[rascal]

Only stupid fans that let themselves fool by flashy dunks and meaningless stats think that Carter is better than Manu.

Stats are never meaningless. Carter will get to the hall of fame on stats.
Manu may or may not get in and if he does if will be because he was fortunate to be playing with Duncan and what he did outside of the NBA.

[it's me]

Stats are never meaningless. Carter will get to the hall of fame on stats.
Manu may or may not get in and if he does if will be because he was fortunate to be playing with Duncan and what he did outside of the NBA.

Crap… this guy has no clue…. If Ginobili gets in … it certainly wont be because of his NBA career… dude balled at a high level in europe and got some les with his national team…

[mrspurs]

btw, this summer Manu lets us know that the spurs were secondary on his basketball list of priorities.

As a fan, loyalty to Manu is secondary to the success of the spurs.

100% Agreed. Unless of course your a lady with Player Pom Poms. And there are still players from the past that show up to games that are not PO games. Guys like David, Iceman still give back to our city. There are few guys who still believe in San Antonio that used to play for them. Those are the exceptions.

[Man In Black]

Stats are never meaningless. Carter will get to the hall of fame on stats.

He'll need to get to 25000 points. I don't he'll do it. He's definitely not first ballot. Can't do it for his international contributions, he only has 1 Olympic team appearance.

[DAF86]

Stats are never meaningless. Carter will get to the hall of fame on stats.
Manu may or may not get in and if he does if will be because he was fortunate to be playing with Duncan and what he did outside of the NBA.

See, you don't know . I don't know what I'm doing arguing with you.

Manu is already a lock for the hall of fame (but you're right, he'll only get there 'cause he was just lucky. Lucky to play along Tim Duncan, Lucky to win the gold medal playing with Pepe Sanchez, Lucky to win the euroleague playing with Marko Jaric, etc)

And if Carter gets in then Michael Redd, Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis and others deserve to get in too.

[2centsworth]

And what did they let us know when he settled for less money in benefit of the team?

10 mil in san antonio is like 20 mil in NY. That's a freakin fact!!!

[DAF86]

10 mil in san antonio is like 20 mil in NY. That's a freakin fact!!!

10 mill for Manu isn't the same as 20 mill for Manu

[spursncowboys]

Casual fans that think they know anything about the NBA really make me laugh.

When has Manu EVER been a franchise player in the NBA? When has Manu EVER seen double teams on a consistent basis? I'll tell you, Never.

Carter? He's been the franchise player on every team he's been on. He has been the go-to guy. And Manu is only averaging so many points in so little minutes because he's gunning. Per 48 minute stats are illusions and horse . Carter is shooting roughly the same percentage as Manu from the floor and he faces double teams on a nightly basis. I could just imagine what Carter would be able to do with Tim Duncan on his team. Recently Shaq said the only difference between Carter and Kobe was that Carter has never played with a great big man like Kobe has.

They have to double Duncan.

When there is one more play left in the game, the Spurs have the ball and are down, who gets the play? Manu.

Would Carter be able to put up numbers from the bench? I doubt it.
Would Carter be able to destroy his body day in day out without injuries? Absolutely not. He gets injured coming down from a jump shot.
Would Carter bring the dedication and heart that Gino brings every night? No!!
Also Manu got a Gold medal when he was double teamed on a consistent basis!!

[2centsworth]

10 mill for Manu isn't the same as 20 mill for Manu

maybe in your simple world, but in the real world it can most certainly mean the same.

[DAF86]

maybe in your simple world, but in the real world it can most certainly mean the same.

?????

I would give my left nut just for 1000 box but ... In which paralel universe 10 mil and 20 mil are the same thing?

[2centsworth]

?????

I would give my left nut just for 1000 box but ... In which paralel universe 10 mil and 20 mil are the same thing?

you have to have a brain to know.

[DAF86]

you have to have a brain to know.

Or maybe have english as my first language so I can know if you're using an expression, beign sarcastic or what.

[MB20]

Or maybe have english as my first language so I can know if you're using an expression, beign sarcastic or what.

Life in NYC is a lot more expensive.

Creo que eso es lo que quiere decir...

[DAF86]

Life in NYC is a lot more expensive.

Creo que eso es lo que quiere decir...

Capaz que si

[manufor3]

people dont realize manu is the key. if he has a bad game we lose, and if he has a good game, we win

[lefty]

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