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    and Bonner was a huge reason they won tonight again.


    Man thats gotta be killing you guys.
    How do you figure Bonner was a huge reason they won? This should be interesting.

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    Why has Splitter gotten no playing time these past 2 games?
    He's tall, talented and doesn't shoot threes, iibh, aimca, tbh.

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    IF Splitter didn't miss all of training camp and pre-season due to injury that might be fine. However He is already so far behind right now and Splitter needs all the minutes he can get to get accustomed to the Spur's system if he is to be ready come play-off time. Playoff rotations are also usually set pretty early in the season unless an injury. Teams usually wont make a change late in the season unless they have to in fear of breaking up the chemistry and rhythm as teams are in battle for play-off spot mode.

    Nothing is set in stone of course but developing a player earlier the better before crunch time.
    Someone should tell Pop that.

    My point is it is only 10 games. He is trying to get him acclimated slowly and IMO there is nothing wrong with that atm, as we are going to try to get the best seeding possible for the PO's. Also, you have to keep the game we just played in mind. We were down by 17? at one time. It was a sloppy dog fight out there. Maybe he wanted to go with Bonner to help get the win since he has been hot. Now going back to last game with little to no Splitter you could say the same. When Matty B starts missing than I want Splitter in. Pop sees the matchups better than we, so I will certainly trust his judgement...he has been doing pretty good so far.

    I do get your point, I just think we have a bit more time than you are willing to give them.

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    Pop sending a message to Splitter that he better learn to shoot the three-pointers if he wants to play. I'm only kidding =P

    I hope

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    IF Splitter didn't miss all of training camp and pre-season due to injury that might be fine. However He is already so far behind right now and Splitter needs all the minutes he can get to get accustomed to the Spur's system if he is to be ready come play-off time. Playoff rotations are also usually set pretty early in the season unless an injury. Teams usually wont make a change late in the season unless they have to in fear of breaking up the chemistry and rhythm as teams are in battle for play-off spot mode.

    Nothing is set in stone of course but developing a player earlier the better before crunch time.

    Despite what I said I do agree.

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    Someone should tell Pop that.

    My point is it is only 10 games. He is trying to get him acclimated slowly and IMO there is nothing wrong with that atm, as we are going to try to get the best seeding possible for the PO's. Also, you have to keep the game we just played in mind. We were down by 17? at one time. It was a sloppy dog fight out there. Maybe he wanted to go with Bonner to help get the win since he has been hot. Now going back to last game with little to no Splitter you could say the same. When Matty B starts missing than I want Splitter in. Pop sees the matchups better than we, so I will certainly trust his judgement...he has been doing pretty good so far.

    I do get your point, I just think we have a bit more time than you are willing to give them.
    True, but rotation players usualy dont get DNP's on a NBA roster.

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    Because, like silverblk mystix said, it's about the big picture. In the grand scheme of things, if this team doesn't have Splitter acclimated with playing more minutes, the system, at least relatively used to playing next to Duncan, etc., then they're not a serious threat to win the championship.

    If he's either out of the rotation, or Pop doesn't fully have trust in him, or he looks uncomfortable come playoff time, then this team doesn't stand a chance against the Lakers.

    This team doesn't have the luxury of bringing him along slowly. He's supposed to be eating up minutes now, so that Duncan and McDyess don't have to play as much. But even more importantly than that, they need him this season if they're going to win a championship, or even seriously contend. It's not going to happen by him sitting on the bench or playing sporadically.

    I get that he's still adjusting to the speed of the game and isn't in the type of shape required to play 30 mpg (not that they need that out of him), but treating him like he's Ratliff and can't handle more than a few minutes at a time or in a half? He's had more than a handful of games now, he's a young guy, let the guy play. He can probably go for 8 or 9 minutes at a time now and if he can't, then get him a quick breather and put him back in. He acts like if he plays him 5 or 6 minutes, then he can't possibly play anymore in the half.
    It is about the big picture, so why all the ranting about Splitter not playing? Its November, not April. Splitter will be brought about slowly and will continue to solidfy his spot in the rotation. Geez people some of you need to relax.

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    I guess defense is dead. The only big worse than Bonner is Blair, and they're two of the first three bigs in the game.

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    True, but rotation players usualy dont get DNP's on a NBA roster.
    OK? What does that prove? Splitter will most certainly be a rotation player, so I dont get the point of the statement.

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    I guess defense is dead. The only big worse than Bonner is Blair, and they're two of the first three bigs in the game.
    True, but it is kinda tough not to play Bonner atm...and he did a pretty decent job tonight.

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    I understand both arguments, whether Splitter should be playing more right now or not.


    I think we're all just too damn anxious to see if he really is a solid player, which would give this team more potential and better chances of bringing home #5.

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    I understand both arguments, whether Splitter should be playing more right now or not.


    I think we're all just too damn anxious to see if he really is a solid player, which would give this team more potential and better chances of bringing home #5.
    Agree with you here as I have said already that if Splitter did not miss training camp and pre-season Spurs might have this luxury of not playing him that much right now.

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    I think it's the Swiss Army Knife effect. Pop has many, many tools and if you look at the matchups that Thibodeau was playing, there weren't any POWER interior bigs out there. No Carlos Boozer, no Kurt Thomas. Coach Tom had his Bulls attack outside in with his perimeter players. If this game was against the LAL or Boston or Orlando, Splitter is in there along with those other bigs. Let Splitter get healthy and then the Spurs will wreck shop...wait, they already are wrecking shop. Let's let them get to full health and then see if they can wreck shop better.

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    I understand both arguments, whether Splitter should be playing more right now or not.


    I think we're all just too damn anxious to see if he really is a solid player, which would give this team more potential and better chances of bringing home #5.
    Damn right we are.

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    Notes on a scorecard: Why playing Wednesday was good for Parker’s psyche
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    ...It was interesting that the only Spur who did not see action was Tiago Splitter. Splitter was in good shape in the locker room, but it just seemed like the pace of the game didn’t suit his skills. Popovich was hesitant to bring him in during the first-half struggles. And when the offense was humming with Bonner and Antonio McDyess, Popovich didn’t want to change his chemistry.
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...-parkers-soul/

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    I think pop is teach him something, he need to stop a while to seeback what he have done, and he learn more.

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    Yall are tripping big time. Why do yall think you know better than Pop? Pop is one of the greatest coaches of all time, and you feel it's only necessary to question his judgement? Bonner has been getting minutes, and has been playing great, and maybe his history haunts him, but that doesn't stop the development for a player. Pop wants Splitter to develop at a pace, and not just throw him in, especially since he's barely coming off the injury. He has shown promise, and he will get minutes, so stop tripping. Spurs are 9-1, mimicking the best start in franchise history, why aren't you celebrating?
    +1

    The way Bonner's been shooting the 3 ball it would be stupid not to play him. There's 72 games remaining on the schedule, I highly doubt Bonner will keep shooting at 80%+ for too long. There is plenty of time for Pop to get Splitter acclimated to the system/rotation.

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    True, but it is kinda tough not to play Bonner atm...and he did a pretty decent job tonight.
    It's nice to have him in the game when he's hitting threes, but he shouldn't be the first big off the bench any more than Blair should be the starting center. What's scary is that with the way Blair stunk it up tonight, Pop's probably going to start Bonner instead of Splitter. ing re ed.

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    Just watching the game now, 1st quarter and Blair has already gotten a putback, and his presence going up for rebounds got the spurs two extra possessions on deflections off bulls players. These are the types of things that are going to help the spurs win tough ballgames, especially come playoff time.

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    Why has Splitter gotten no playing time these past 2 games?
    Anyone who knows Pop knows that he's got a "Boner for Bonner" and will play him at any cost......

    Seriously though? Matchups. Red Rocket did ok actually.

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    Blair took a step back, Splitter needs to play

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    I have a solution to this.

    If Pop wants to ride Bonner's hot hand, fine. But I don't think dropping Blair out of the rotation is a good idea though.

    Only other feasible option in order to get Splitter some PT is letting him cut into Dice's minutes. Dice is a 2nd half type player anyway, there's really no reason to burn him now, unless the spurs start losing games because of Splitter. Let the old guy rest, Pop.

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    Come playoffs time, Bonner/Blair/McDyess need to be situational players only. 10-15 minutes per game. Bonner for the 3s and stretching the floor. Blair for the infusion of energy and the offensive boards. McDyess for the the usual solid few minutes he's capable of providing on both ends, or for the occasional individual defensive assignment (e.g., Dirk).

    We need Twin Towers when the real season starts, if only for the defense.
    Last edited by doobs; 11-18-2010 at 09:01 AM.

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    Why has Splitter gotten no playing time these past 2 games?
    He picked 3 fouls in 2 minutes against the Thunder, then returned for a minute or two in garbage time.

    Against the Bulls, of the 96 minutes available @ PF&C, Duncan, Blair, Dice and Bonner played 84 minutes. I guess, Jefferson played 12 minutes at 4. One of the bigs won't play some games.

    About the Lakers bigs, McDyess is listed 6'9", but he's actually more than that barefoot. His true height is around 6'11" in shoes. He and Tim will do fine against Bynum and Gasol. For Odom, the Spurs can use Splitter or Jefferson switching Blair or Dice to guard Artest, who is strength more than speed. I don't think Pop will use Bonner against the Lakers.

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    I guess defense is dead. The only big worse than Bonner is Blair, and they're two of the first three bigs in the game.
    True dat.

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