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    Let me clear up this misconception that I keep seeing in the various Carter threads:

    http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/200..._carter_o.html

    Exhaustive research from the resourceful folks at 82games.com has come up with this revelation: Carter is clutch.

    The website reports that the Nets star is second only to LeBron James in game-winning shots over the last 5 1/2 seasons (including playoffs), with 16 winners in 51 attempts. James has 17 winners in 50 attempts. Ray Allen is third (15-for-39) and Kobe Bryant is fourth (14-for-56).



    http://dimemag.com/2009/02/the-best-...he-game-today/

    Here are some other names to consider based on these numbers: LeBron is leading the League in makes during this stretch with 17 (at 34% FG), surprisingly Vince Carter is second with 16 (31.4% FG), Ray Allen has 15 (38.5% FG), and Kobe has 14 (25% FG).


    http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=548

    Among the new look Nets, who can fans expect to be clutch performers, those who play best in the 4th qauarter over time, with less than two minutes left and neither team ahead by more than three points?

    That stats-heavy 82games.com provides annual sortable stats on clutch performances. To even out the disparity in clutch minutes, it based its numbers on a 48-minute model.

    Vince Carter was easily the Nets’ best clutch player last season and not just in scoring. According to 82games.com, Carter was among the top 20 in seven different clutch categories: 15th in points per 48 minutes of clutch time and trips to the foul line, first in free throw shooting–he didn’t miss a free throw in clutch time; 16th in assists, 19th in +/-, and (shockingly) second in steals. He was also among 53 NBA players didn’t commit a turnover in clutch time.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...er&btnG=Search

    Carter's game winners this season.




    http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/200...n_antonio.html

    Mason's a keeper - starting quality on many teams, a great character guy, very efficient (12 ppg on 10 shots per game), one of the game's best 3-point shooters, and he comes very cheap ($3.5 this year, $3.8 next).

    And by now, you know that he's stuck four game-winners this season, which is a pretty good indication that he's made of the right stuff.

    But he's not Carter. Mason may get the same kind of shots he gets at the Alamo, where he is a perfect complementary component to a post offense, but he doesn't drive it or get to the line very often, and he would have trouble finding his shot off the bounce against bigger defenders.




    http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=517424

    It's no surprise that New Jersey is considering trading guard Vince Carter, even as he is having a renaissance season among a cast of very young players. Carter is averaging 20.8 points, 5.1 rebounds and 4.9 assists this year, helping take the Nets to the brink of the East's eighth playoff seed.















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    Tank.

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    What is your suggestion for getting better, dolt?

    If the Spurs front office can get trade for Carter, all sins are forgiven, but not forgotten.

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    What is your suggestion for getting better, dolt?

    If the Spurs front office can get trade for Carter, all sins are forgiven, but not forgotten.
    Tank.

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    Good for him.

    Trade for a guy thats quit on previous teams, constantly hurt, and plays defense worse than Michael Finley.


    While giving up the clutchest shooter since Stephen Jackson and the future starting 2 guard of this team.

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    Unless he is 7' can rebound and block shots, he can gfh.

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    Is meth prolific in San Antonio?

    Click the links and read.

    Carter is very clutch.

    On a contender, he'd have even more opportunities to shine.

    Carter "quit" on teams, because losing makes him miserable. That said, he's been a shining example this year with the young Nets, as his maturation has led to leadership and impressive numbers.


    Don't let the facts get in the way of your delusions.



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    Don't throw Stephen Jackson in my face. You lil' young @sses don't realize that I invented him in this Forum and was the saddest to see him go.

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    Ghost Writer can you imagine how many degrees you could have instead of posting 1,000,000 times on Spurstalk?
    I have a passion for the Spurs.

    And I must show the homers the light.

    I can't believe people would rather stand pat than trade away some role players to get Vince fvcking Carter, while maintaining our current three best players.




    Did Fiesta get rescheduled to February?

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    "Vince Carter doesn't play defense"

    "Bruce Bowen > Vince Carter"

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    I have a passion for the Spurs.

    And I must show the homers the light.

    I can't believe people would rather stand pat than trade away some role players to get Vince fvcking Carter, while maintaining our current three best players.




    Did Fiesta get rescheduled to February?

    I'd rather acquire a big man next to Duncan that can help against the Lakers, rather than getting a player at a position they are the deepest they ever have been at in the team's history.

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    "Vince Carter doesn't play defense"

    "Bruce Bowen > Vince Carter"

    -timvp

    He never said that, and your lying.

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    I'd rather acquire a big man next to Duncan that can help against the Lakers, rather than getting a player at a position they are the deepest they ever have been at in the team's history.
    Um, I'd agree if that were remotely true.

    1. What big man is available?

    2. I'll take one star at the swingman spot over a bunch of role players.




    Please go back and read the first post in this thread.



    Get familiar.

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    Fine. Vince is clutch & Matt Bonner is still our starting center.

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    Um, I'd agree if that were remotely true.

    1. What big man is available?

    2. I'll take one star at the swingman spot over a bunch of role players.




    Please go back and read the first post in this thread.



    Get familiar.
    I would rather the Spurs keep RMJ then trade for VC when he will not even add that much more the RMJ yet add on a ton more salary and just swing a trade for Boone. It is not unreasonable with all their depth that they would be willing to listen.

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    Um, I'd agree if that were remotely true.

    1. What big man is available?

    2. I'll take one star at the swingman spot over a bunch of role players.




    Please go back and read the first post in this thread.



    Get familiar.
    Good you get Vince Carter.

    Your still at the bigman position, thats what is lacking vs the Lakers.

    how do you fix that??


    QUESTION

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    I was hoping to get Sean Williams in the Carter deal and cultivate him.

    I acknowledge that there are no saviors available in the frontcourt, unless you want to pursue Rasheed Wallace.

    getting Carter would go on the premise of having better perimeter play than the Lakers, which we would, position for position.

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    I was hoping to get Sean Williams in the Carter deal and cultivate him.

    I acknowledge that there are no saviors available in the frontcourt, unless you want to pursue Rasheed Wallace.

    getting Carter would go on the premise of having better perimeter play than the Lakers, which we would, position for position.

    If Kurt Thomas could stop Bynum from time to time and Duncan could rekindle some defensive stud magic for Gasol, then the trade would be easier to swallow.

    I'm just not sold that Vince Carter makes the team that much better than it already is.

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    VC is not clutch


    He is a pussy

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    Is meth prolific in San Antonio?

    Click the links and read.

    Carter is very clutch.

    On a contender, he'd have even more opportunities to shine.

    Carter "quit" on teams, because losing makes him miserable. That said, he's been a shining example this year with the young Nets, as his maturation has led to leadership and impressive numbers.


    Don't let the facts get in the way of your delusions.



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    Don't throw Stephen Jackson in my face. You lil' young @sses don't realize that I invented him in this Forum and was the saddest to see him go.
    The Spurs don't need clutch. They need post defense and rebounding.

    Get that and with TP, Manu, and TD games won't be close.

    Championship

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    Fine. Vince is clutch & Matt Bonner is still our starting center.
    Yes, that is still an issue, but the idea would be to concede the Duncan complement down low and be better on the perimeter than the Lakers.

    Duncan
    Carter
    Manu
    Parker
    Bonner

    is a fairer fight against

    Bynum
    Kobe
    Odom
    Fisher
    Gasol


    Gasol would be stretched to the perimeter to honor Bonner and I like our chances at the other spots. You bring Bowen into the mix to slow down Kobe as needed.

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    The Spurs don't need clutch. They need post defense and rebounding.

    Get that and with TP, Manu, and TD games won't be close.

    Championship
    So you want Rasheed Wallace instead?

    Or are you going to create this star power forward with a compueter program ala Weird Science?

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