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    JEBO TE! Clandestino's Avatar
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    I am curious... did government agents kill your family or something? you seem to have an unhealthy hatred for the country in which you supposedly live... either that or you are really some al-qaeda op trying to recruit people and are probably becoming very annoyed that nobody buys your bull ...

    but seriously...what is the deal?

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    I am curious... did government agents kill your family or something? you seem to have an unhealthy hatred for the country in which you supposedly live... either that or you are really some al-qaeda op trying to recruit people and are probably becoming very annoyed that nobody buys your bull ...

    but seriously...what is the deal?
    If Al-Qaeda's relying on a Spurs Web site, I think they've got bigger problems that a massive military force trying to kill them.

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    If Al-Qaeda's relying on a Spurs Web site, I think they've got bigger problems that a massive military force trying to kill them.
    al qaeda will use any and all means of recruitment.. you can't put anything past any terrorist organization...when you say, "nah, they would never do this or that" it happens...

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    IMHO, speaking out on issues effecting our country does not necessarily mean one hates their country.

    I stand up to my wife all the time but it doesn't mean I hate her.

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    IMHO, speaking out on issues effecting our country does not necessarily mean one hates their country.

    I stand up to my wife all the time but it doesn't mean I hate her.
    you must not read his opinions then..

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    Benjamin Franklin (?) once said that Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.

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    Benjamin Franklin (?) once said that Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.

    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," said Samuel Johnson on April 7, 1775.

    Boswell tells us that Samuel Johnson made this famous pronouncement that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel on the evening of April 7, 1775. He doesn't provide any context for how the remark arose, so we don't really know for sure what was on Johnson's mind at the time.

    However, Boswell assures us that Johnson was not indicting patriotism in general, only false patriotism.

    For more of Samuel Johnson's thoughts on patriotism in general, go to the patriotism page.

    For a discussion on a possible false patriot who Johnson might have been thinking of, see this discussion.

    http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html

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    Omg, you're asking NBADAN to think for himself. Get ready for the no response or a response with a ten page editorial written by someone else.

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    Omg, you're asking NBADAN to think for himself. Get ready for the no response or a response with a ten page editorial written by someone else.
    ..said the voice in the crowd who sounds like a echo-chamber for Faux News.

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    However, Boswell assures us that Johnson was not indicting patriotism in general, only false patriotism.
    Correct, Isn't this what Republicans advocate? Nationalism cloaked as patriotism?

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    ..said the voice in the crowd who sounds like a echo-chamber for Faux News.
    what's funny is I don't even have that channel. However, I read your other post and it looks like you're trying.

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    Celebrating the death of our citizens, our troops, and the wish that we as a nation fail in order to prove ones own political agendas are de able.

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    I've never seen Dan "celebrate" the death of our citizens and our troops.

    That remark is di able.

    Just because you all won't even say Bush's stinks doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow blindly.

    You all sure sounded like you hated our country when Bill was president.

    Give me a break.

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    I've never seen Dan "celebrate" the death of our citizens and our troops.

    That remark is di able.

    Just because you all won't even say Bush's stinks doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow blindly.

    You all sure sounded like you hated our country when Bill was president.

    Give me a break.
    Let me clarify some things for you Johnny

    I didn't even post here when Clinton was president. I didn't even think he was the worst one either. But none of that matters. I don't blindly follow Bush, nor defend all of his actions. I do think that some of the things he is blamed for are ridiculous.

    I think many in here feel like Dan celebrates those things not for the acts themselves, but as failures of Bush, conservatives, or Republicans. That is what I see here every day. Dan displays a very content at ude when tragedies occur that can be some how tied to George Bush. Dan has no love for this country, he is instead filled with a hatred. A hatred that has taken away his ability to think freely about politics, and be able to give things an unbiased take.
    Last edited by Useruser666; 03-10-2005 at 04:33 PM.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I know I've been told that I "hate" America or am unpatriotic because of some of my views or our government but I try not to go overboard. I think my sig says it right.

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    Let me clarify some things for you Johnny

    I didn't even post here when Clinton was president. I didn't even think he was the worst one either. But none of that matters. I don't blindly follow Bush, nor defend all of his actions. I do think that some the things he is blamed for are ridiculous.

    I think many in here feel like Dan celebrates those things not for the acts themselves, but as failures of Bush, conservatives, or Republicans. That is what I see here every day. Dan displays a very content at ude when tragedies occur that can be some how tied to George Bush. Dan has no love for this country, he is instead filled with a hatred. A hatred that has taken away his ability to think freely about politics, and be able to give things an unbiased take.
    A view you should pay attention to Johnny!

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    I've never seen Dan "celebrate" the death of our citizens and our troops.

    That remark is di able.

    Just because you all won't even say Bush's stinks doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow blindly.

    You all sure sounded like you hated our country when Bill was president.

    Give me a break.
    I'm sure Bush's stinks Johnny! Just not quite as bad as yours.

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    I know I've been told that I "hate" America or am unpatriotic because of some of my views or our government but I try not to go overboard. I think my sig says it right.
    Joe, I have never heard anything from you that would lead me to believe you hate America. That is why I respect your opinions here.

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    I know I've been told that I "hate" America or am unpatriotic because of some of my views or our government but I try not to go overboard. I think my sig says it right.
    Joe, you served your country( Semper Fi ). Whoever told you that you hate America is full of ! However, I sincerely doubt that either Dan or Johnny ever served. Big Difference!

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    Actually that was Dr. Samuel Johnson that said "the last act of a scoundrel is patriotism."

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    I think many in here feel like Dan celebrates those things not for the acts themselves, but as failures of Bush, conservatives, or Republicans. That is what I see here every day. Dan displays a very content at ude when tragedies occur that can be some how tied to George Bush. Dan has no love for this country, he is instead filled with a hatred. A hatred that has taken away his ability to think freely about politics, and be able to give things an unbiased take.
    you Chris. It was the W and the adminstration Neocons that once assured us that "Saddam has them", "We know where they are"....Well, its been more than two years since we invaded Iraq and what the do we have? no WMD's, no Iraq links to Al-Queda, no unmanned planes to deliver WMD, 1,500+ of our brothers and sisters dead, a $200 billion bill that we are passing along to our children, a growing insurgency that threatens to make Iraq into a hotbed of Islamic Jihad for years to come, and gives the enablers of our real enemies, the governments of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Syria plenty of new foot soldiers for future attacks against Americans. Hey, what's not to like about our current adminstration?

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    you Chris. It was the W and the adminstration Neocons that once assured us that "Saddam has them", "We know where they are"....Well, its been more than two years since we invaded Iraq and what the do we have? no WMD's, no Iraq links to Al-Queda, no unmanned planes to deliver WMD, 1,500+ of our brothers and sisters dead, a $200 billion bill that we are passing along to our children, a growing insurgency that threatens to make Iraq into a hotbed of Islamic Jihad for years to come, and gives the enablers of our real enemies, the governments of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Syria plenty of new foot soldiers for future attacks against Americans. Hey, what's not to like about our current adminstration?
    Gee, so basically everything right?

    I agree that WMD was a reason to go into Iraq. I agree that Bush thought they were there. I don't however believe it was a lie, or that Bush didn't think they were there. I'm also glad that now we can know with much more certainty that they aren't there and that Saddam Hussien is not in power.

    I believe that it is very tragic for a single person to die, but I also know that sometimes things are needed to be done that will result in the deaths of many.

    I believe the deficit is a very fluid number. I believe it can be dealt with in time, and that time is coming. I don't believe it to be entirely the fault of the current administration.

    I believe that what has been done in that area and what talks are underway elsewhere is a new starting point for peace. A peace that can not be created until we can get everyone on the same page.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    I agree that WMD was a reason to go into Iraq. I agree that Bush thought they were there. I don't however believe it was a lie, or that Bush didn't think they were there. I'm also glad that now we can know with much more certainty that they aren't there and that Saddam Hussien is not in power.
    Pre-invasion, Saddam was doing everything possible to tell as many people as possible that Iraq no longer possessed WMD weapons or technology. The Germans, Russians, French and everyone else with intelligence assets in the area worth a damn did their own digging and found Saddam to be telling the truth. The U.S. out-spends other countries multi-times over on intelligence in the area, and your telling us we are supposed to believe that the adminstration didn't have a clue that Iraq had destroyed its WMD arsenal after the first gulf war? If you believe that, I've got some prime land in the Baka Valley for you that would make a great summer vacation spot.

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    Don't want to interfere but as I read your posts I think that Nbadan loves his(your) country the most. Criticism is a good and necessary thing for all democracys.

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    I don't believe it to be entirely the fault of the current administration.
    o. Earth to Chris! We had a balanced budget and a surplus going towards paying down the national debt under the BJ prez. Just who's fault WOULD that make the $200B sinkhole of debt?

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