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    First of let me say that I think KT is a class act, and I loved him on our roster. 10 years ago. Now he is the poster child for what is wrong with the Spurs. I'm not sure the trade that brought him here was a bad idea, but resigning him for two years at $4 million per I have to question.

    Thanks to Mel, I have to pass along this hilarious profile from:

    http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...lay.jsp?id=323

    Good stuff!

    Kurt Thomas is a decent post defender, who is slowly losing the ability to run forwards. Or, indeed, backwards. And his sideways movement isn't what it used to be, either. And his vertical's somewhat gone, too. Et cetera.

    A capable rebounder who never had much back to the basket offense, Thomas shoots a decent face up jumpshot, but that comprises basically all of his offensive set these days. His touch around the rim is unimpressive and he has no consistent back to the basket moves. (The first half of that sentence sounded far dirtier than it was supposed to, by the way.) Slightly undersized, yet also slow these days, Thomas relies on his shot, his smarts and his strength to get by.

    He used to be more athletic in his youth, though, as evidenced by the way that he has given his name to a gymnastic move, or two.

    Kurt Thomas fact: He is one of only three players to lead the NCAA in scoring and rebounding in the same season. The other two were Xavier McDaniel and Hank Gathers. True fact.

    Nickname: "Old Crazy Eyes" in college, or "The Hurt"

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    KT is the best big besides duncan on the roster. He played well when given the opportunity hitting the 15ft jumpshot, and getting offensive rebounds, which nobody else could do.

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    He's quite good. If you let him go, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone as good. The problem is the Spurs just need other players on the roster who are more athletic. I see Bonner and Oberto as more expendable than Thomas.

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    The Spurs have to trade people.. . O if you don't want to get bounced int he first round again YOU HAVE TO LET PEOPLE GO!
    Get whom?

    If we're talking someone who can replace the things he does like McDyess or the like, sure.

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    Was Artest trade ever on the table for the Spurs?

    I kept reading here at Spurstalk before the trade for Kurt that the Spurs were going after Artest. I was actually getting a little excited about getting Ron then we got Kurt and I was just a little bit disappointed. I still like Kurt though and agree with Chump that the other players need to be let go of first.

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    He was available...but he isn't the "Perfect Spur"

    To be that you must be over thirty have zero offensive abilities which is what Kurt is that makes him "very Good"

    when I read that he was the "second best big next to Tim on the team" I about fell out my chair laughing...

    You know On those Bulls Championship teams the second Best shooting guard was .....

    well that does not ing matter does it...?
    Who's better, Oberto, Bonner, Gooden? Thomas is the best big to put next to tim on the roster, but please tell me who is better?

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    Kurt Thomas had a good year last season, although he started slow with injury. I'd be happy to see him back for his final year.Thomas isn't the problem.

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    He's quite good. If you let him go, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone as good. The problem is the Spurs just need other players on the roster who are more athletic. I see Bonner and Oberto as more expendable than Thomas.
    agreeed!

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    knows the system
    not sure I would ship him

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    knows the system
    not sure I would ship him
    But surely you would shop him

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    I liked Thomas quite a bit 5 years ago. If he could still play, why didn't he give us anything in the playoffs? Sure $4 million is no big deal for a team that wastes money like NY or Dallas. We are the small market Spurs that refuses to lose $, so the difference between a vet min contract of $1 million and $4 million is large, especially if it costs us part of the MLE. The full MLE could get us an impact player in 2009, instead of pinning absolutely everything on Manu and Tim BOTH being healthy. Now we have to sit around waiting for Finley to reup to see if we even have the full MLE. If he stays, our only option becomes a trade. I wonder if we could get anyone for Finley in a trade, say packaged with Bonner, Oberto, Bowen, Vaughn, and KT?

    Thomas and a gimpy Duncan on the court was just not workable. Too bad we had to get Kurt at the tail end, I'd love to see more from him but I can't see it happening.

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    But surely you would shop him
    no I would shop the other bigs not him
    you need to 2 bigs that know the system
    duncan and him
    YOU shop the others

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    Oh you can shop him, just make sure you get someone else that can do most of the things he does.

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    I would be happy with TD/Gooden/Mahimni/Bonner as our biggs if we could land a REAL 3 somehow

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    Real class act, is valuable on defense. If the Spurs get another good big, I would let go of Kurt sadly.

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    Yet this is the lump of that Pop is quoted as calling "the Perfect Spur"
    God DAMN, we got some stupid ers posting here. Nobody is going to put up big numbers opposite Tim, because Pop is ALWAYS going to rotate guys for different skills like 3 point shooting and rebounding and defense. In ten games that he started, Thomas grabbed 8.5 rebounds in 26 minutes played. That's a better rebounding rate than Tim, Amare, or Shaq. Idiot.

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    God DAMN, we got some stupid ers posting here. Nobody is going to put up big numbers opposite Tim, because Pop is ALWAYS going to rotate guys for different skills like 3 point shooting and rebounding and defense. In ten games that he started, Thomas grabbed 8.5 rebounds in 26 minutes played. That's a better rebounding rate than Tim, Amare, or Shaq. Idiot.
    So why didn't Thomas start? He looked awful in the playoffs, and I even like Thomas, I'm just calling it like I see it. I just feel we paid about double what he's worth is all. With our tight-ass MGT, the margin for error is near zero, not $2 million! I think we were expecting more from Thomas when inking him to the $4 million deal, that's a lot for an end-of-the-bench guy who can't give you consistent quality minutes. I'd rather see Pops Mensha-Bonsu bouncing around out there than that.

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    He's quite good. If you let him go, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone as good. The problem is the Spurs just need other players on the roster who are more athletic. I see Bonner and Oberto as more expendable than Thomas.
    he is a solid player. but Bruno has a very interesting, even if a little bit simplistic, way to present a well built roster.

    basically, it said a roster (especially on PO) is 8 main men (2 PG, 3 wings, 3 bigs) plus 2 others rotation players (1 wing and 1 big). then 5 others players to fill the roster.

    9th/10th players deserves nothing more than 3M
    11-15, nothing more than 1.5

    i see KT as a good and experienced 4th big at best.

    KT makes 4 M. so, either he has to be in our 8 men PO rotation, which i don't think he has the level, either he's overpaid.

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    So why didn't Thomas start? He looked awful in the playoffs, and I even like Thomas, I'm just calling it like I see it. I just feel we paid about double what he's worth is all. With our tight-ass MGT, the margin for error is near zero, not $2 million! I think we were expecting more from Thomas when inking him to the $4 million deal, that's a lot for an end-of-the-bench guy who can't give you consistent quality minutes. I'd rather see Pops Mensha-Bonsu bouncing around out there than that.
    Dallas is a bad matchup for a big lineup. They play 2 PGs, a SG, a SF and Dirk. Thomas only played 16 minutes, shot 46% and grabbed 4.6 rebounds, an even HIGHER rebounding rate than his starts. Not sure what you're looking for. He's a lunch pail defender rebounder and he brought that.

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    he is a solid player. but Bruno has a very interesting, even if a little bit simplistic, way to present a well built roster.

    basically, it said a roster (especially on PO) is 8 main men (2 PG, 3 wings, 3 bigs) plus 2 others rotation players (1 wing and 1 big). then 5 others players to fill the roster.

    9th/10th players deserves nothing more than 3M
    11-15, nothing more than 1.5

    i see KT as a good and experienced 4th big at best.

    KT makes 4 M. so, either he has to be in our 8 men PO rotation, which i don't think he has the level, either he's overpaid.
    Against a team that didn't run small ball for 30 minutes a game like Dallas, KT probably averages 20-22 minutes. He was the 3rd big, by minutes played in the regular season.

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    Dallas is a bad matchup for a big lineup. They play 2 PGs, a SG, a SF and Dirk. Thomas only played 16 minutes, shot 46% and grabbed 4.6 rebounds, an even HIGHER rebounding rate than his starts. Not sure what you're looking for. He's a lunch pail defender rebounder and he brought that.
    I don't see him that effective on defensive. He can grab a few boards, brings zero on offense, and blocks no shots. Not worth $4 million, he a small step up above the vet min, like I said perhaps LLE. You really think he is worth it if he costs us a solid MLE player in 2009? That is the way I am seeing the situation.

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    I don't see him that effective on defensive. He can grab a few boards, brings zero on offense, and blocks no shots. Not worth $4 million, he a small step up above the vet min, like I said perhaps LLE. You really think he is worth it if he costs us a solid MLE player in 2009? That is the way I am seeing the situation.
    i see him as a decent low post defender, who can grab a few rebounds and can hit a jumper out to about 17 ft. the going rate for that is about 3-4 mil in the nba today whether we like it or not ( , even kwame brown found someone to pay him 4 mil).

    as for the MLE issue, unless we move and/or cut both bowen and oberto, we wont have room under the tax line, KT or no KT. and then, id rather move finley or bonner before KT.

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    I don't see him that effective on defensive. He can grab a few boards, brings zero on offense, and blocks no shots. Not worth $4 million, he a small step up above the vet min, like I said perhaps LLE. You really think he is worth it if he costs us a solid MLE player in 2009? That is the way I am seeing the situation.
    This post just lost you whatever little credibility you had.

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    I cannot post anywhere unless I mention trading Manu.

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