spain or holland.....
both good teams who underachieved with that kind of roster they have.....
The world cup is getting closer, time is going so fast.
Looking at the countries right now, who do you think has the best chances to win the cup?
I think it would be between; France, Italy, Germany and Argentina.
Also for South-America, which countries do you think will qualify? Top 4 qualify and the 5th placed plays against the 4th of the north, central america and carribean.
As for South America, I think; Paraguay, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay advance, while Chile playing playoff.
spain or holland.....
both good teams who underachieved with that kind of roster they have.....
Spain is the best team right now but usually the ones that do great before the World cup never win it.
For now, I think Spain but you can never overlook Brazil and Germany.
Spain and Holland are like the Phoenix Suns ( coached by D´antoni).
Nice to watch, but poor D.
Just like in basketball, offense wins games. But D wins championships.
(Theory not applicable for Brazil.)
My picks are, as usual, Italy and Brazil.
From South America, teams that will advance are Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Brazil. Uruguay gets 5th place.
/Nostradamus
Italy/Spain
Brazil isn't doing very well right now, neither is Argentina. They are both in a sort of period of transition. They don't have a well defined team. I agree that most times, teams that do well this early don't usually win the WC though, so its pretty hard to judge accurately.
I'd say Spain is the frontrunner right now. Not Italy though, not by a long shot.
Italy is built for World Cups.
They don´t care about the "regular season".
They will be among the best 4. As usual.
Spain I dont think so, they usually are nothing on big tournaments. And they are not so special if you ask me. As for Holland, why do you all have such high expectations of them? Yeah they do have a nice roster, but they are not a team, and they have a big lack of motivation and champion spirit to win a cup. They will probably end in the quarterfinals. If they did not win it back in 1998 (that was their biggest chance), they certainly will not now.
As for italy, I know they had an old team, and lost their quality a bit, but on tournaments they play well(except last year), I think they can make it. in the qualifiers they seem to do good as well.
don't underestimate the fact that the world cup wil be played in South Africa where te C° will be very high.
Italy have never won out of europe.
I think the winner will be a sudamerican team
Have any European team won the WC out of Europe?
Well, there are not so extreme high temperatures, so i think that would be alright, besides most players are used to it.
No, They have not, if im correct.
Brazil is the only country who won a WC outside of their own continent.
Sweden ´58 and Korea-Japan ´02
well... that's a bit subjective isn't it? I mean, according to some people in here, South America and North America are different continents. Which means when Argentina won in Mexico '86, they did so in another continent. I'm just saying![]()
Spain took the euro le last year in a huge tournament. That had to get the monkey off their backs, you can't use that argument anymore.
Euro cup and World cup, two completely different things.
France are not playing great right now. But they were really sucking just before the 1998 and 2006 WCs, so i'm optimistic for 2010.![]()
F the world cup....for now its all about the CONFED CUP GO USA THE YANKS ARE COMING!!!! YOU COMMIE BAS S!!! GO YANKS!!!!
Not to rain on your parade, but even though France was playing poorly before those world cups, in 1998 you had Zidane in his prime and one of a supporting cast. In 06, you still had Zidane, albeit a decrepit version, but even that's better than most and Henry playing at a very high level...
this time you have squat compared to back then. France isn't winning in 2010. That's my bet. Of course, one can hope... nothing wrong with that.
P.S. I'd like to add Argentina hasn't won since 86, so I understand what that's like![]()
Last edited by MaNuMaNiAc; 05-26-2009 at 11:20 PM.
So? are you going to tell me that Italy had anything more than just a decent team in 2006? In the WC it doesn't matter if you have a good team or not, most of the times you just need to be lucky and hope that, in the day you play the matches, your players are in a good day.
Italy was a solid defensive team (as usual), which is fundamental for winning world cups.
The WC is all about NOT LOSING. Some games are unwatchable. No team risks anything.
Germany and Italy, two countries who go deep into every WC, have solid defenses.
Argentina in ´86 was coached by a defensive minded Bilardo, with 8 players focused on D, and only 2 offensive players (Maradona/Valdano).
Holland, Spain are countries who play an "entertaining" style, but never won squat.
You're forgetting Burruchaga.
USA! USA!!
is not going to do much.
But hey, at least they are getting in the the World Cup regularly, that didn't used to be so.The US wasn't too bad in 02 but looked horrid in 06 except for that tie with Italy. Its like rooting for the Spurs in the mid to late 80's, if they made the playoffs, everyone was happy!
I don't know much about World Cup soccer but I do know not to bet against the dudes with one name.
Brazil over Italy
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