Talk about a good game, he doesn't seem slowed down, though it's just one game. I'm just curious to see how him and Jho play together...
The most impressive thing about Marion was that all his 26 points came in the paint. Thats what the Mavs need, easy buckets. He had like 5 dunks tonight.
Roddy Beaubois was also badass.
Some of the moves he did left the opposing fansooohing.
Those back to back steals on Arenas were just nasty. I almost felt bad for Arenas. Getting embarrassed by a rookie.
I seriously think this can be the year the Mavs put it together. If they make a move to get a legit starting center, they can be really scary. They are going to be very good this year. They have a tricky roster, but if they can gel fast enough, they have a lot of versatility.
By the way, in all seriousness, did any one see Gortat's line:
35 min, 14 PTS, 14 REB, 6 BLK
Roddy impressed the out of me. Could be a very solid PG in a few years.
Wait so there's a chance that Beaubois won't be a complete waste of a pick?
Roddy could end up being the steal if the draft... Either him, Blair, or that one white guy the rockets got in the 2nd round..
Beabouis has George Hill like physical tools...
Roddy's ceiling is higher than George Hill....try the guy Hill is backing up. Except Roddy can shoot 3's.
Gortat's a very good backup, probably a starter on the Magic if not for that Dwight guy. , he'd be the starting center on the Spurs I'd bet.
Yeah the Mavs got kicked in the Gortats by Otis Smith.
spurs starting center is mcdyess. Have u not heard?
gortat > mcdyess
He might be the next Magic Johnson.
opinion ... sure... possibility maaaybe ...
facts .. Nope ...
Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Gortat
Career -- 69 3 12.1 0.559 1.000 0.583 1.5 2.9 4.4 0.2 0.3 0.7 0.39 1.70 3.7
McDyess(Jus last two years to make a fair comparison)
07-08 DET 78 78 29.3 0.488 0.000 0.622 2.6 5.9 8.5 1.1 0.8 0.7 0.96 3.20 8.8
08-09 DET 62 30 30.1 0.510 0.000 0.698 3.0 6.8 9.8 1.3 0.7 0.8 0.82 3.10 9.6
Younger McDyess was a good player but he's 35 now, I'd definitely take Gortat over McDyess right now.
Gortat plays backup to the best Center in the NBA so he doesn't get the minutes. But if you break down his production according to his minutes, he's highly productive.
Last Season Per 36 Minutes:
Per36 - McDyess - 11pts, 51 FG%, 12rbd, 1 block
Per36 - M. Gortat- 11pts, 57 FG%, 13rbd, 2.4blocks
McDyess - Age 35, Gortat Age 25
Last edited by Allanon; 10-10-2009 at 11:16 AM.
This ing kills me. Seriously the Mavs, only way it could be worse is if the Lakers trade Walton for him. He was the Suns defense.
Also I saw espn had some updates on the suns. It makes me sick to see pictures of Kerr sitting next to gentry. Wish suns fans would run him and sarver out of town, find another owner.
Marion played great last night, but he's still Marion. Once gets real, I expect him to shrivel.
yes because extrapolations from 12 min to 30 mins are always linear. What about consistency? PO proven performance? Its not so easy to just say "per 36mins". I personally HATE that stat.
Im not saying marcin gortat sucks, but i am saying he sucks compared to mcdyess now. Of course potentially he might have a ceiling "as high" as mcdyess. But when mcDyess is at that ceiling right now (he is nobody's fool at this moment), and when we are talking about starting center this year (so 35/25 doesnt matter, of course if we extrapolate 5 years in advance gortat at 30 will be better than mcdyess at 40. I will give u that much).
They're not stashing him in Europe. I don't know how many minutes are available to him with Kidd, JJB and JET, so play him 35 minutes a night in the D-League. From what I've seen I think he has the potential to be a good player in this league down the line.Wait so there's a chance that Beaubois won't be a complete waste of a pick?
not only that, Mcdyess's stats might fall off this season. I would take Gortat over McDyess.
If you think Marion is good, then wait till he plays against the Spurs or tries to create his own shot, then get back to me.
I can understand that extrapolations are not always reliable but they do apply in Gortat's case. His lack of huge stats is directly affected by Dwight's 36 minutes per game with basically 12 minutes left for Gortat.
But if you give Gortat minutes, he produces...and he's like the 5th/6th option on a talented team. For example, when Dwight got suspended for elbowing some dude in the Playoffs last year, Gortat filled in perfectly and the Magic didn't miss a beat and won by 25 points. Gortat put in 11 pts and 15 rebounds.
Heck, the Mavs offered him the most they could and got matched by the Magic. If the Mavs had actually gotten Gortat, I would rate them higher than the Spurs.
Gortat is an outstanding defensive Center, excellent shotblocker and all while still having a good offensive game. He can shoot the 3, shoot midrange hooks or dunk the out of the ball. I'd place him in the Top 15, maybe even Top 10 Centers.
He plays very good defense while having good offense, there's only a couple of Centers in the NBA like Gortat...most can only do 1 or the other. The only reason Gortat is not better known is because he plays behind Dwight.
Last edited by Allanon; 10-10-2009 at 01:14 PM.
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Yup, he's so fast, you think you see him, then the playoffs come around, and you have no idea where he went.
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