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a death-penalty trial costs $1 million more than one in which prosecutors seek life without parole.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/27...#ixzz1RWpDDBKQ
Since they executed that Mexican guy last night I want to know what you guys think about the death penalty. Do you believe that as long as somone kills another person that they deserve to be executed? Do you think that it's something that has no place in society? Are you angry that someone can kill another person and then spend the rest of their lives in jail costing the tax payer close to 40K a year or more than double TC's and Pegs salaries put together?
a death-penalty trial costs $1 million more than one in which prosecutors seek life without parole.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/27...#ixzz1RWpDDBKQ
I am not arguing for either case, I am just asking your opinion. If a guy spends 20 years in prison he gets pretty close to that millin dollar mark anyway. Some guys go in just out of their teenage years and spend the rest of their lives locked up. So if a guy spends 30 years he surpasses that million dollar mark.
Personally I think that when their is sufficient evidence that a person killed another (like that Malik Hasan guy) person(s) then they should just string them up right away. You did it, people saw you do it, we got it on camera... ok you die tomorrow. NEXT!
Wouldn't have to spend more money if there was a sentence carried out directly after the verdict. I'm pretty sure if we went back to the old days and bought a noose, chair (or drop hole) and a bag for the head it would save us more than trying to be the moral police and easing their pain through injections/gas.
I seriously believe our country has the worst judicial system and those that do multiple tours in the system speak volumes to that point.
I think the use of the death penalty needs to be increased for all who act like animals against others. Cut the waiting time, and just get it over with. Good riddens to people who have no respect for others.
Public executions are needed
"Public executions are needed"
That's Entertainment!
btw, the self-proclaimed meanest (and most corrupt) ing cop in America is going to make a spectacle of his prisoners as the All-Start game:
Joe Arpaio Turning the All Star Game Into a Embarrassing Spectacle
Arpaio is going to have one of his chain gangs picking up trash outside next week’s Major League Baseball All-Star Game.
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2011...ing-spectacle/
We'd spend far less money if we cut down the time from the sentencing to the actual execution. Why should these animals get 15+ years to file appeal after appeal? Like the case of this Mexican - there was no doubt as to his guilt, yet he spent 16 years filing appeals. One judge said he'd never seen such a convoluted stream of appeals. The guy was guilty - he was tried and convicted and sentenced to death. He should've been executed years ago!
I've found myself backing away from my support of the death penalty over the years. I'm not to the point of being outright against it, but I do wish Texas wouldn't be so gung ho about implementing it. IMO, the DP shouldn't be used unless the following conditions are all met.
1. The victim's family supports it.
2. There are multiple eyewitness and/or video evidence to the crime. No one should be put to death for a crime no one saw, or on the word of one individual.
3. In capital crimes involving multipe defendants, only the trigger man can get the DP.
... aka, the sentiment of a hard-core Old Testament-thumper masqerading as a loving "Christian".
The law tries to be conscientiously accurate, as least pro forma, by following a set of rules, regulations, procedures. They were not followed in his case, violating the procedures America insists are to be applied to Americans arrested in other countries.
Don't do as we exceptional Americans do, do as we say y'all must do.
There's no doubt in the guilt of every case that has been overturned by appeal. Thats kind of what they mean by Guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. Its expensive because those are the lengths we must go to in order to avoid innocent people dying. You can't cut cornes considering the current system likely isn't 100% effective either.
I'd hate to be on death row and left hanging and waiting.
It's the one sentence that can't be reversed, so I'm against it.
I suppose the counter argument is "but what if you're really, really, really sure?"
Don't care. We were "really, really, really sure" Anthony Graves was guilty and had to die and we were really, really, really wrong.
If you want to read up on the most likely case of an innocent man being murdered by the Texas Government - look up the Willingham case. Its very ed up.
so Texas is wrong once and a while, nobody's perfect.....so who's next we need to get the show on the road.
It's government-sanctioned revenge killing. It doesn't deter crime, it doesn't bring victims back, and it serves no purpose beyond making the families of the victims, and other parties interested in the case, feel somehow emotionally satisfied that the criminal has met the same end as the victim. There's no virtue in that.
So do we then have different levels of guilty? Something like, "oh no, you are guilty one of capital murder, we are going to smother you with a down pillow tomorrow." or " well you ARE guilty 3 of murder one, so you get 1.5 appeals, but you better file them in the next 2 years". How do we decide this, especially with all of this new dna evidence setting free inmates who have been on death row for a while.
Exactly - perfection is impossible which is why the death penalty is pretty dumb to use and why the appeals process is so long.
Also, there's absolutely no evidence that the death penalty serves any sort of deterrence factor in criminal behavior.
So, whats the point?
Its been overused for sure but there are some people in this world that should be put down.
he was garbage and was killed. bid deal
the real story is how Tejas scoffed Obama
neither does building prisons or housing criminals, so as a society based off your logic we should stop building and convicting people. plus the dumb mexican should have gotten a better lawyer, that is how you really get off.
And GWB since he asked for the same thing. Some story.
Specious.
It's easy to say "hey yeah dude is a nut kill him" or at least let some one else do it. This is indeed a grey area for me. It's hard to almost be "god like" and say yeah this guy deserves to die. Much more if you found out later the guy was innocent,which I'm sure has happened. To many factors can play a part and its exhausting to sit here and decide. So I'm not. Where's the sand so I can put my head in it.
There is plenty of evidence that prison serves as a deterrent. I actually misspoke though. There is evidence that the DP serves as a deterrent its just that it doesn't do so at a greater rate than prison.
I don't care about the Mexican or the vast majority of people on death row. I won't weep when they're gone because quite frankly most of them are horrible examples of humanity. The point I am trying to make is for those that are innocent - such as Willingham - who are executed. That case as a whole - from the prosecution relying on bad evidence and a lying criminal as a witness to Rick Perry changing political boards in our state in order to make sure an innocent man was given the need - is flat out disgusting.
When you throw in the extra cost then I don't see a reason to even have the death penalty. Its expensive, ineffective, and can cause innocent people to die.
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