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    http://news.yahoo.com/immigrants-us-feel-stuck-judge-blocks-obama-orders-204503468.html


    TUCSON, Arizona (AP) — Brenda Armendariz, her husband and their two Mexico-born children were hoping to resolve their constant fears of being deported after President Barack Obama issued his latest executive orders on immigration
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    But now that a federal judge in Texas has blocked Obama's efforts to protect 4 million more immigrants, her family is disillusioned and her children feel stuck as the president's offer of temporary legal status moves frustratingly beyond their reach.
    About a third of the immigrants now living in the United States illegally would be eligible for temporary protection if Obama's latest orders are upheld in court, either because they were brought to the U.S. as children or because their own children have legal status in the country.
    But the advances and retreats on reform have been so frequent over the years that many thousands of immigrants who are already eligible for protection have given up for now — they aren't applying for the work permits and Social Security numbers they are en led to under Obama's first executive order in 2012.
    There are a litany of reasons why, including general distrust of the government, fear they'll be deported, and the nearly $500 in fees it costs to apply. But the constant uncertainty created by Washington's political divide also keeps them away.
    About 150 people have reached out to Arizona immigration attorney Lance Wells this week, reacting with bafflement, fear and dismay to the latest reversal, he said. His message: "Be patient guys. We kind of knew this would be coming."
    But their patience is wearing thin.






    Armendariz and her husband came to Tucson a decade ago with a son and daughter, meaning to stay just long enough to earn some cash and head home to the Mexican state of Sonora. Instead, they overstayed their visas and settled down. Those children are now 21 and 13, joined by two American citizen siblings: a 3-year-old boy and a one-month-old girl.

    Like so many other immigrants, this family has "mixed status," and the mother, father and two oldest children didn't qualify for protection under Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA program, nearly three years ago.
    With the goal of keeping such families together, Obama's executive orders announced in November would have applied to the older siblings starting on Wednesday, and the parents starting in May.
    U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen of Texas temporarily blocked both expansions after Obama's opponents sued, calling it an overreach of presidential power. The Obama administration plans to appeal, but 21-year-old Itzayana Aguirre Armendariz is already giving up.
    "I don't know if it's just anger or disillusionment," Armendariz said. "I tell her to not close herself off; that Obama already signed (the executive actions) and that now it's just about waiting and fighting."
    Aguirre Armendariz had to drop out of community college her freshman year because her family couldn't afford the out-of-state tuition that immigrants lacking legal status must pay in Arizona. She was studying engineering and wants to go back to school, but is stuck helping her mom make and sell tortillas and bread.
    With the latest injunction causing more delays, she announced to the family that she wants to move back to Mexico. Her father overruled that, but they know they can't keep their daughter's future on hold forever.

    Armendariz's 13-year-old boy is still in public school and had his hopes set on Disneyland, but those too were dashed; driving far from home remains too risky and expensive, she said.
    Roman Beltran, of Phoenix, also didn't qualify for DACA's first round, but would be eligible under the expansion. He was brought to the U.S. from Mexico at 5. "I was really upset and frustrated because this is not the first time that I get my hopes up with immigration," he said.
    Beltran had been on a separate path to legal permanent residency through his wife until they got divorced. Now 36, he feels taken advantage of by the political battles, and says he simply wants to work and contribute.


    "I just want a job, is what it boils down to," Beltran said. "To be able to get a job legally, pay my taxes."

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    Could be worse, they could be in concentration camps where they belong working off their debt to the people of the United state

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    Repugs and you rightwingnuts have NO SOLUTION to the 10M+ illegal immigrants.

    I suppose you Nazis and white supremacists like the "boxcar Final Solution"

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    Reagan knew what's up with this... baffling current conservatives don't get it.

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    so lets see ... there are 10 million people in the country, most working and they want to pay taxes and participate in democracy the GOP doesn't want them?

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    I suppose you Nazis and white supremacists like the "boxcar Final Solution"

    Exactly, but for real this time, not the made in Hollywood bull scam for shekels like the last one

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    Repugs and you rightwingnuts have NO SOLUTION to the 10M+ illegal immigrants.

    I suppose you Nazis and white supremacists like the "boxcar Final Solution"



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    We have the best solution, crack down and make them pay us back on the way out the door. Shake them down at the border.

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    so lets see ... there are 10 million criminals in the country illegally, most working(link?) and they want to pay taxes(link?) and participate in democracy the GOP doesn't want them?
    FIFY

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    so lets see ... there are 10 million people in the country, most working and they want to pay taxes and participate in democracy the GOP doesn't want them?
    It wouldn't be so bad if they were taking away jobs that citizens should be working.

    We don't need them, nor want them. Let them go through the legal process.

    If employers cannot find workers at wages paid, they will simply have to raise wages to find workers.

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    I've said many times before I dislike illegals, but politically speaking, it's suicide. A lot of those people have families that are legal and vote. Amongst hispanics, the immigration problem is priority #1. We're talking about a demographic that currently encompasses 17% of the US population, 9% of actual voters, and growing. A demographic that has voted Republican in the past. The talk of self-deportation was absolutely stupid, and the reality is that even if you kick them out, we still have a porous border where they just get back in.

    I understand this is a topic that resonates well with the base, but it's extremely short-sighted. A better battle would be to mount pressure to finally close down the border and stricter monitoring for tourist visas, then you figure out how to deal with the remnants inside.

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    It's funny how illegal immigrants say they want to pay taxes, of course they do they usually get tax refunds

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    I've said many times before I dislike illegals, but politically speaking, it's suicide. A lot of those people have families that are legal and vote. Amongst hispanics, the immigration problem is priority #1. We're talking about a demographic that currently encompasses 17% of the US population, 9% of actual voters, and growing. A demographic that has voted Republican in the past. The talk of self-deportation was absolutely stupid, and the reality is that even if you kick them out, we still have a porous border where they just get back in.

    I understand this is a topic that resonates well with the base, but it's extremely short-sighted. A better battle would be to mount pressure to finally close down the border and stricter monitoring for tourist visas, then you figure out how to deal with the remnants inside.
    the only part any sane person agrees with is shutting down the border first. cut off the head of the snake. i think you and i differ greatly on what we'd do from there though. there is literally no reason why we couldn't deport them, in fact the government has done it twice in the past ever heard of operation ?

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    Meanwhile in Israel



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    the only part any sane person agrees with is shutting down the border first. cut off the head of the snake. i think you and i differ greatly on what we'd do from there though. there is literally no reason why we couldn't deport them, in fact the government has done it twice in the past ever heard of operation ?
    Sure there's a reason. You would be splitting a lot of families and creating resentment amongst a block that has a growing voting power. I would rather all be deported too, but speaking in terms of reality, it's political suicide, especially when elections are won on very thin margins, like they are nowadays.

    But, again, what to do after closing the border is a complex situation that would require a careful solution, but largely irrelevant until you secure the border and especially the visitor's visa situation. There's actually more illegals overstaying their tourists visas than people crossing the border, IIRC.

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    Muh splitting families. Tough . The 10% of legal immigrants who can vote would be dwarfed by the gains in votes by working class americans (the 90%) who would be exstatic about the problem getting taken care of

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    smh at wanting to deport people

    Not talking about m>s since he's an idiot but everyone else. The ones that commit crimes send their ass back but the ones that are simply here to try to create a semblance of a normal life?Put yourselves in the shoes of them for a moment. politics, sending them back to nothing and tearing up their families is wrong on a humanity scale.

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    smh at wanting to deport people

    Not talking about m>s since he's an idiot but everyone else. The ones that commit crimes send their ass back but the ones that are simply here to try to create a semblance of a normal life?Put yourselves in the shoes of them for a moment. politics, sending them back to nothing and tearing up their families is wrong on a humanity scale.
    ALL illegal immigrants are committing a crime, so by your logic, they all should be deported.

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    ALL illegal immigrants are committing a crime, so by your logic, they all should be deported.
    Fleeing a country that provides few opportunities to better your life (and your family's) isn't a crime. I'd imagine we'd all do the same if put in the same position.

    Semantics aside, how is deporting hard working people and tearing their families apart not inhumane?

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    They're a net loss and take more than they give, the only person it isn't humane for is the american people

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    Funny, my life isn't affected by undo ented people. Neither should yours unless you are competing with them for a hard manual labor job.

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    Funny, my life isn't affected by undo ented people. Neither should yours unless you are competing with them for a hard manual labor job.
    You don't pay taxes?

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