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    Also known as Iran punks USA.

    You gotta know when to walk away from the table.

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    WHAT agreement?

    LAUSANNE, Switzerland — Just hours after the announcement of what the United States characterized as a historic agreement with Iran over its nuclear program, the country’s leading negotiator lashed out at the Obama administration for lying about the details of a tentative framework.

    Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif accused the Obama administration of misleading the American people and Congress in a fact sheet it released following the culmination of negotiations with the Islamic Republic.

    Zarif bragged in an earlier press conference with reporters that the United States had tentatively agreed to let it continue the enrichment of uranium, the key component in a nuclear bomb, as well as key nuclear research.

    Zarif additionally said Iran would have all sanctions lifted once a final deal is signed and that the country would not be forced to shut down any of its currently operating nuclear installations.

    Following a subsequent press conference by Secretary of State John Kerry—and release of a administration fact sheet on Iranian concessions—Zarif lashed out on Twitter over what he dubbed lies.

    “The solutions are good for all, as they stand,” he tweeted. “There is no need to spin using ‘fact sheets’ so early on.”

    Zarif went on to push back against claims by Kerry that the sanctions relief would be implemented in a phased fashion—and only after Iran verifies that it is not conducting any work on the nuclear weapons front.

    Zarif, echoing previous comments, said the United States has promised an immediate termination of sanctions.

    “Iran/5+1 Statement: ‘US will cease the application of ALL nuclear-related secondary economic and financial sanctions.’ Is this gradual?” he wrote on Twitter.

    He then suggested a correction: “Iran/P5+1 Statement: ‘The EU will TERMINATE the implementation of ALL nuclear-related economic and financial sanctions’. How about this?”

    The pushback from Iran’s chief diplomat follows a pattern of similar accusations by senior Iranian political figures after the announcement of previous agreements.

    Following the signing of an interim agreement with Iran aimed at scaling back its nuclear work, Iran accused the United States of lying about details of the agreement.

    On Thursday evening, Zarif told reporters the latest agreement allows Iran to keep operating its nuclear program.

    “None of those measures” that will move to scale back Iran’s program “include closing any of our facilities,” Zarif said. “We will continue enriching; we will continue research and development.”

    “Our heavy water reactor will be modernized and we will continue the Fordow facility,” Zarif said. “We will have centrifuges installed in Fordow, but not enriching.”

    The move to allow Iran to keep centrifuges at Fordow, a controversial onetime military site, has elicited concern that Tehran could ramp up its nuclear work with ease.

    Zarif said that once a final agreement is made, “all U.S. nuclear related secondary sanctions will be terminated,” he said. “This, I think, would be a major step forward.”

    Zarif also revealed that Iran will be allowed to sell “enriched uranium” in the international market place and will be “hopefully making some money” from it.

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    “It is a good deal,” Obama declared Thursday, calling it “a historic understanding with Iran which, if implemented, will prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
    On Thursday evening, Zarif told reporters the latest agreement allows Iran to keep operating its nuclear program.

    “None of those measures” that will move to scale back Iran’s program “include closing any of our facilities,” Zarif said. “We will continue enriching; we will continue research and development.”
    So which one is lying?

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    Iranian facesave.

    They're not known for being straight shooters.

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    Iranian facesave.

    They're not known for being straight shooters.
    Sadly the same thing can be said about our President.

    In this case I suspect the Iranian version is closer to the truth.

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    So which one is lying?
    you think the two positions are mutually exclusive?

    your other link says that Iran argued about the nature of the details and not that a framework deal had not been reached.

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    You have reading difficulties? US version says they have to halt their program and THEN sanctions will be lifted. Iranian version is sanctions will be lifted and THEN they will modify but not stop their program.

    Huge difference.

    I realize you just like to bite my ankles and argue with me but it is what it is. It's right there in black and white. Iran says the deal the US announced isn't the deal at all.

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    The Iranian citizens are dancing in the street's that sanctions might be lifted.

    US needs to stand firm and let Iranian popular pressure push the government to meet our demands. This is no time to be weak. You gotta be willing to walk away when you are negotiating.

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    You have reading difficulties? US version says they have to halt their program and THEN sanctions will be lifted. Iranian version is sanctions will be lifted and THEN they will modify but not stop their program.

    Huge difference.

    I realize you just like to bite my ankles and argue with me but it is what it is. It's right there in black and white. Iran says the deal the US announced isn't the deal at all.
    That wasn't what you selected in your argument above. What you quoted said nothing of sanctions. You are intellectually dishonest with this bait and switch bull .

    And I started the thread you come in saying there is no deal arguing my post. Now when I respond I'm following you? What a ing idiot.

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    So is your fatass in front of the TV watching Fox News, CC?

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    That wasn't what you selected in your argument above. What you quoted said nothing of sanctions. You are intellectually dishonest with this bait and switch bull .

    And I started the thread you come in saying there is no deal arguing my post. Now when I respond I'm following you? What a ing idiot.




    off ankle biter.

    It's right there in black and white. Iranians say the deal the US announced isn't the deal.

    You can't possibly try to argue that that is not true just out of desire to chew on my ankles.

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    So is your fatass in front of the TV watching Fox News, CC?
    No, actually my bony ass is right here at work.

    Something I'm sure is foreign to you.

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    off ankle biter.

    It's right there in black and white. Iranians say the deal the US announced isn't the deal.

    You can't possibly try to argue that that is not true just out of desire to chew on my ankles.
    You trust the Iranians over Kerry and the state department. That 's great.

    Look fatty. WE both know that due to your knee you have not been able to get around. We also know you have poor impulse control. How much weight have you put on?

    I mean by all means call me a dog in an effort to dehumanize me. I will continue to point out truths, fatty. I still would like to know what you did to your brother that ended up with him dying of an overdose.

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    No, actually my bony ass is right here at work.

    Something I'm sure is foreign to you.
    How much did you gross last year?

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    right wingers ALWAYS with the bull .

    It's framework agreement, a basis the binding deal due in 3 months.

    The Western sanctions, NOT Repug/Israeli war mongering, that played a huge factor in Iran's side.

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    You are losing so bad you sink to random fat accusations?

    You are clearly too stupid to even be embarrassed by your incompetence.

    And yeah, in this instance I trust the Iranians version over Obama's. Obama is so desperate for any foreign policy legacy agreement that he will give the store away now for ANY agreement and let the next President sort out the mess.

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    How much did you gross last year?
    If I told you you wouldn't believe me anyway. I probably paid more taxes last year than you earned.

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    Why the does he want to know your gross income???

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    You are losing so bad you sink to random fat accusations?

    You are clearly too stupid to even be embarrassed by your incompetence.

    And yeah, in this instance I trust the Iranians version over Obama's. Obama is so desperate for any foreign policy legacy agreement that he will give the store away now for ANY agreement and let the next President sort out the mess.
    You and I both know it is not random.

    You stated that you 'tried to get your brother into rehab," that he was "estranged from the family," how he called the law on you and your guns in reprisal for what you had done and how you hid them from the cops, and that he "died of an overdose."

    You told us all about your knee surgery and how you have been having to deal with it for months. You have demonstrated repeatedly with how you have poor impulse control.

    How much weight did you put on? What did you do to 'try and get him into rehab?'

    That is the thing, you are the blustering that isn't ashamed of anything yet you won't answer these questions. It's transparent.

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    If I told you you wouldn't believe me anyway. I probably paid more taxes last year than you earned.
    Right back at you, coward. You talk a lot and that is about the extent of it.

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    Ick. I'm outta here.

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    You and I both know it is not random.

    You stated that you 'tried to get your brother into rehab," that he was "estranged from the family," how he called the law on you and your guns in reprisal for what you had done and how you hid them from the cops, and that he "died of an overdose."

    You told us all about your knee surgery and how you have been having to deal with it for months. You have demonstrated repeatedly with how you have poor impulse control.

    How much weight did you put on? What did you do to 'try and get him into rehab?'

    That is the thing, you are the blustering that isn't ashamed of anything yet you won't answer these questions. It's transparent.
    You've obviously been losing sleep after hearing about his cousin. What a sad life you live.

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    Ick. I'm outta here.
    Bye. He's been telling me how he makes more money that I do for a long time and had just taken another shot at my work. You're pretty melodramatic though. I noticed you ran away from the climate thread after I showed you what the study in question said once again.

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    You've obviously been losing sleep after hearing about his cousin. What a sad life you live.
    Now THAT is random. My fan club is congregating though!

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