No.
Yes.
Did the Spurs make a mistake by not signing Scola?
Last edited by picnroll; 09-03-2007 at 07:59 AM.
Absolutely, particularly "giving" him away to your IH10 rival who is already a playoff team. Not sure any of us will really know why this happened, but on the surface it stinks and shows signs of desperation, which is just really strange. I mean, this kind of trade coudn't have been worked out with a team from the East, or at least someone outside your division?? Again, strange.
He is a good player and WILL help the Rockets.
Is the Pope Catholic?
IMO, too early to tell.
I do, however, think you should never trade with a team in your division.
Trust.
And never end...
I think that Dave McNulla summed up alot of it by saying that I'm quite sure that no one here is particularly scared of the Rockets AT ALL...
...but I still don't understand why we just didn't sign the bas .
(and trading to a division rival? Just crazy IMHO)
Only time will tell!! Hopefully we win another le or two and we will forget all about it. Regardless of what happens I bet Pop will be too stubborn to admit it. Just like how stubborn he was in giving van exel PT in the 06' Playoffs and playing small ball.
you should have inserted more options like: Big Time Mistake, mistaken only, it was a fair trade, we never needed the guy
Worst case scenario Scola ultimately proves to be someone who could have been the fourth amigo (star) to go along with Duncan, Parker and Manu and have made the Spurs a team with 7 or so total championships.
Very worst case scenario Scola elevates Houston past San Antonio to win les.
In either case, for all the success they've had, Pop and RC would look like idiots and that would be a large part of their legacy.
we already got orberto, bonner, elson, mahimni, horry, duncan
The only mistake they made was not holding out until after the FIBA games for a better offer.
The Spurs do not need to field the the newest version of the Argentine Olympic team to win a le.
Wait until 2 years from now to actually know which way to vote imo
If it helps the rockets give the mavs/suns/nuggets/etc a headache it could be worth it.
Signing bonner for 3 years 9 million in the first days in free agency was a mistake. I think thats pretty obvious with how more talented players are experiencing a " dried up" market this offseason. With that I really doubt a team out there would have offered Bonner a deal worth more than 3 million a year. I just don't understand how we can give an unproven player as in Jackie Butler a year ago the same contract Scola recieved from Houston. And resign a player, who left no imprints on any playoff game this past season whatsoever, for more money than a player who has consistently been a winner (Scola).
no.
Hard to say how they could've been worse off WITH him on the team....so I said "yes", they made a mistake.
Just like Barbosa on this team as a scoring combo guard off the bench would've been good....as would Josh Howard as the heir apparent to Bruce Bowen...only with a better offensive game.
The Spurs are STILL championship calibur without these individuals, but again....I don't see how they are better off without them.
Hard to say at this time. Can Scola's game translate to the NBA? Just because he's a stud by FIBA rules doesn't mean he can play in the NBA. I think he can but to what level is a TBD type of situation. Some players have made the transition and others haven't. It's up to Scola to make the adjustment. If he does then it probably will turn out to be a mistake. Right now I see a lot of O and little D. The Spurs makeup is dependent upon all players playing team D first. Can Scola play NBA D? Or will he contunue to reach/hack and sit for long periods of time on the bench in foul trouble? His call.
I tend to agree that the Spurs did pull the trigger on Bonner sooner than neccessary. I really don't know why they reacted so early. Love to know why though. But if I'm not mistaken the Spurs were in a situation where they had a deadline to meet or Scola signs an extension with Tau. Wasn't the buyout deadline womewhere in early to mid July? I think it was so it became a "get something for nothing" scenario. The Cleveland trade fell thfough and the rumors about a Scola and "whatever" for Nocioni didn't materialize - if the rumors where ever true. The Spurs were probably a little desparate seeing how if they don't do anything and miss the deadline then Scola is practically gone forever. They get zip.
Switchman - you're correct IMO and we really have to wait until Splitter comes over in the '09 season. When both are in the league and playing then we will begin to see the results of the trade. We'll see who really fit into the Spurs system better.
I think the Spurs overthought Scola and his role on the team. They should have brought him over and just _tried_ to work him in. See what he did in practice. Try playing him and Tim a bit and see if they can find some way to complement each other. At minimum there should be 15 or so minutes for him to play while Duncan rests.
There are very few players with Scola's fire and talent and it's just too risky to give him away. In my opinion, players like Butler, Mahinmi, White, and Williams are much bigger risks since they've proven nothing at any level.
That said I understand what the Spurs were thinking and they're damn smart and there's a very good chance they're right about all this, but for now I'm voting mistake.
couldn't vote. didn't see the "who cares" button . I'm surprised the "i'm the same idiot that freaked out last off season button" button wasn't made as a follow-up question if you voted "yes" to prove the validity of this whole "new" thread and poll.
I don't care that the Spurs didn't sign Scola. I care that they traded him when his value was low. I think they panicked because Scola bluffed about signing long-term in Europe. If they would have waited, his value would have risen. For example, right now Scola's value is probably five times what it was when the Spurs traded him.
And if the Spurs hadn't traded him and he signed a long term deal...
There would be an uproar over that as well...
"They could have at least gotten a second round pick for him"...etc.
Deny that.
I'll grant you that the Spurs have never been good at upping the value of players they are unhappy with...
But in this case you need to grant that it's Scola himself that lowered his trade value, he is the main one that did it...which is why I am happy to see his ass gone.
Bottom line is that Scola is severely overhyped and being given a lot of credit for what he hasn't done....
Everyone and their mother thinks he is another Manu...
When he's not...he's not even close.
We shouldn't have traded him to Houston, but I don't want another Argentine on the team. I don't want people to start calling us the San Argentina Spurs!
Samething you said about Oberto last year Wottt(poor rebounder,slow,etc),and you had all your hopes in Elson.
Oberto showed that in real importants games,He is not scared,it took him time to get used to the NBA,and the spurs system,but at the end of the day He even took Horry´s place at the end of every game vs the Cavs in the finals.
the day you trust Argies a litle,you´ll sure be a winner(just like Pop)
Um...I wanted the Spurs to sign Oberto about 4 years before you ever even appeared on this board...and I've hated Scola just as long.
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