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Wow, can you source that?
If true, it's really starting to look like Blanco had some kind of "final solution" in mind for the poor blacks in the 9th ward, eh?
Amtrack offered trains for N.O. before the storm.
The local government told them no thanks....
Wow, can you source that?
If true, it's really starting to look like Blanco had some kind of "final solution" in mind for the poor blacks in the 9th ward, eh?
is that a joke! ?
Seriously? (!)
According to Nagin, this is totally untrue. He was asked about this by Blitzer or Russert and he said no one ever contacted him about it, but he would have liked to have gotten such a call.
As far as who told them not to come.. that I don't know.. still waiting for some more news on it.
I think they called the states dept homeland sec. (The LA one not D.C.)
Link:http://www.louisianaweekly.com/weekl...e.pl?20050912g"...While the last regularly scheduled train out of town had left a few hours earlier, Amtrak had decided to run a 'dead-head' train that evening to move equipment out of the city. It was headed for high ground in Macomb, Miss., and it had room for several hundred passengers. 'We offered the city the opportunity to take evacuees out of harm's way,' said Amtrak spokesman Cliff Black. "'The city declined.'"
Old news...
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if this was another Blanco screw-up.
I heard this on the radio this morning listening to WWL on the way to a client site out here in Houston.
They said that the call was put in from Amtrak to Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security (under Gov. Blanco's oversight). The word was never passed on to Mayor Nagin.
But hey, Gov. Blanco says it's all W.'s fault all these people died, and she's a Democrat, so she must be right
And before anyone criticizes the source...Louisiana Weekly is an African American Weekly Newspaper...
Uncle Tom paper!!!
It was Nagin's job to oversee the evacuation...the idea might have crossed his mind...
Bet on the fact that Nagin was out of the loop...the idiot didn't even allow for his cops to feed themselves or assure the safety of their families.
It was his cops 500 of which quit...that's not on the Govenor...that's on the Mayor. Don't give him a free pass...he's the worst leader in all of this.
I said this weeks ago...the African American leaders in NO that aren't Jesse Jackson partisan s are going to tear Nagin a new one. He's going to wish attempted CIA assassinations were the biggest problem he had...
Well , she turned back the Red Cross. Nagen drowned the busses and didn't roll the metro. Now, possibly, they refused an offer from Amtrack?
If true, what would you -- as a black person from the 9th Ward -- suspect? I know, but..but..but..she's a democrat
more State level indifference and incompetence...
"State officials also are being blamed for turning back assistance during the critical first few days. Sheriff Steve Simpson, of Loudon County, Virginia, sent 22 deputies with supplies and 14 vehicles, including four all-terrain vehicles. But he called them back when Louisiana state police officials waved him off.
"I said, 'What if we just show up?' and he says, 'You probably won't get in," Simpson told CNN. Later that night, Blanco cleared legal hurdles that would have allowed local officials to accept the help, but no one ever got back to Simpson.
"I'm very frustrated, trying to figure out what went wrong in that process," Simpson said"
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/13/katrina.response/
Well, they would have derailed and crashed anyway.
They sent a train for the people in the 1935 Labor Day hurricane as well. It got blown off the tracks.
The storm formed east of the Bahamas in late August and traveled due west through the islands. It then began a gentle turn to the northwest and headed straight for Islamorada in the Upper Keys, where it struck on Labor Day, Monday, September 2 around 8 p.m. The winds at landfall are thought to have reached 200 mph (320 km/h), and the central pressure was reported as low as 26.35 inches of mercury (892 hPa). This was the record low pressure for the Western Hemisphere until it was surpassed by Hurricane Gilbert in 1988.
The main transportation route linking the Florida Keys to mainland Florida was a single railroad line, the Florida Overseas Railroad portion of the Florida East Coast Railway. A 10-car evacuation train sent down from Homestead was washed off the track by storm surge and high winds on Lower Mate be Key. The train was supposed to rescue a group of World War I veterans, who, as part of a government relief program, were building a new road bridge in the Upper Keys. The train did not reach the waiting veterans before the storm did.
In total, at least 423 people (164 residents and 259 veterans employed on the road project)(1) were killed by the hurricane. Bodies were recovered as far away as Flamingo and Cape Sable on the southwest tip of the Florida mainland. In a lucky coincidence, about 350 of the 718 veterans living in the Keys work camps were in Miami to attend a Labor Day baseball game when the storm hit.(2) If not for this outing, many more of the men, whose barracks in the Keys were flimsy shacks, might have been killed by the storm.
After striking the Keys, the hurricane continued up the west coast of Florida and landed again on the Florida Panhandle as a category 2 hurricane on September 4. It then passed over Georgia (where it continued to cause wind and flood damage), South Carolina, North Carolina and emerged back into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Virginia. The storm then continued until it became extratropical south of Greenland on September 10th.
This is a rumor with little basis in fact. Mayor Nagin insisted in an interview on Meet the Press that he never got a call from Amtrak officials willing to help. In fact, when he check on availability, all the raillines were occupied until October.
Wrong, this was the FEDS baby when both the Governer and the Mayor Declared State of Emergencies on Saturday Aug27th. It was the FEDS reponsibility to step in and coordinate evacuation efforts at that point. The Governor did not have to ask for help.It was Nagin's job to oversee the evacuation...the idea might have crossed his mind...
It was FEMA turning back offers from local officials to help not the State Police.
scoffed you with knowledge
uh...no he didn't mookie. This dispute has been covered plenty of times and Dan lost the debate. Yet he keeps hammering on the same points that have been disproven over and over again.
Your buddy Dan is the one who has been "scoffed with knowledge"
uh...no he didn't mookie. This dispute has been covered plenty of times and Dan lost the debate. Yet he keeps hammering on the same points that have been disproven over and over again.
Your buddy Dan is the one who has been "scoffed with knowledge"
I miss have missed that post, because nobody in this forum has come close to proving that the State and Local officials had complete sovereignty over this crisis. What I have seen is that the FEDS neglected to inform Governor Blanco as to its formal procedures in asking for federalizing of the NG and in the evacuation, planning and search and rescue phases
well he scoffed whottt
but who doesnt
He didn't scoff choade and I don't like the cut of your jib...now that we have the prerequisite(for a pukie dialogue) stupidity out of the way...
Dan doesn't know what the he is talking about...in fact this is just the latest in a long series of contradictions he has committed in an attempt to place blame...I can direct you to a link where Dan criticizes the President for not seizing authority from the Govenor...
Would you like that link?
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