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    Fox news is having an epic meltdown.

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    Fox news is having an epic meltdown.
    Dog bites man

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    Benghazi 10th probe!

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    LOL @ the obvious corruption and selling/buying of favors going on.

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    LOL @ the obvious corruption and selling/buying of favors going on.
    Wonderful timing isn't it? Comey's statement hours before Obama lands with Hillary in NC.

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    Wonderful timing isn't it? Comey's statement hours before Obama lands with Hillary in NC.
    It's great tactic, even if "dirty", because playing dirty is how the Repugs play.

    Or do you think your beloved Repugs are angels trying to govern the country seriously and move the country forward, so they don't deserve any dirty tricks back at them?

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    Everybody knew the fix was in but it's still disheartening to see it play out so blatantly.

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    It's great tactic, even if "dirty", because playing dirty is how the Repugs play.

    Or do you think your beloved Repugs are angels trying to govern the country seriously and move the country forward, so they don't deserve any dirty tricks back at them?
    boutons, for the most part, both sides are corrupt and dirty - owned by the donors - that's one of the reasons why I'm voting for Trump - he doesn't have any political future to consider and doesn't need their money - he should be off retired and playing golf - I actually think he's really hurt his businesses (like the golf tournament moving from Doral to Mexico) by running.

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    Trash is begging for money, haven't you heard? Even spamming Scottish MPs.

    He's not independent, won't blow his wealth on getting elected. And he losing the money war badly vs. Hillary.

    Trash was well known (by people who bother to know) and has a long history of nasty , but as private citizen asshole, not that many knew or cared.

    Now that he's the Repug joke candidate for the very public Presidency, he's going to get his nasty more widely exposed.

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    Trash is begging for money, haven't you heard? Even spamming Scottish MPs.

    He's not independent, won't blow his wealth on getting elected. And he losing the money war badly vs. Hillary.

    Trash was well known (by people who bother to know) and has a long history of nasty , but as private citizen asshole, not that many knew or cared.

    Now that he's the Repug joke candidate for the very public Presidency, he's going to get his nasty more widely exposed.
    So explain why he's even putting himself through this - hurting his brand by opening himself up to all this scrutiny? He could be off enjoying life than putting up with this rubbish. And he has spent his own money - some what $50 million? (whatever it is) - that's not pocket change - even to him.

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    Everybody knew the fix was in but it's still disheartening to see it play out so blatantly.
    Once I actually saw the cases that the DoJ over the past 20 years have prosecuted regarding classified information, I knew that this was going to be the result.

    You should watch something other than Fox News for setting expectations.

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    You know you're living in Clown World when the lib throngs are in a full force celebration over their candidate being described as "extremely careless" and "dangerously negligent", but at least she's not getting charged, AN BIGOTS! #LoveWins again! So what if she leaked Special Access Programs inadvertently to the Russians, she's AN WOMAN!

    Daily reminder we put Nixon away for sending some LARP'ers over to the Watergate and saying the N word on tape.

    I love my dead gay country.

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    Everybody knew the fix was in but it's still disheartening to see it play out so blatantly.
    (shrugs)

    ... or maybe, just maybe, it was careless, but no evidence of a crime was found.

    Nah.

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    Once I actually saw the cases that the DoJ over the past 20 years have prosecuted regarding classified information, I knew that this was going to be the result.

    You should watch something other than Fox News for setting expectations.
    you.

    How about just reading the law? It doesn't say anything about getting a pass because of "intent". You either break the law or you don't.

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    So explain why he's even putting himself through this - hurting his brand by opening himself up to all this scrutiny? He could be off enjoying life than putting up with this rubbish. And he has spent his own money - some what $50 million? (whatever it is) - that's not pocket change - even to him.
    Ego.

    Pure narcissism. If that wasn't obvious to you before, I don't think you were paying attention to the man.

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    you.

    How about just reading the law? It doesn't say anything about getting a pass because of "intent". You either break the law or you don't.
    okaaay. What law are you talking about?

    What was the evidence the FBI gathered concerning that law?

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    Just in case anyone thought we were still living under the rule of law, the head of the FBI actually said this:

    To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar cir stances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences.
    This is a pass for Hillary Clinton only. All you little people will face punishment should you do what she did.

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    okaaay. What law are you talking about?

    What was the evidence the FBI gathered concerning that law?
    18 U.S. Code § 793

    (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any do ent, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
    Shall be fined under this le or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

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    Direct quote from Comey:

    For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

    None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

    Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

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    The FBI chief explained the decision not to recommend charges by saying that previous cases that were prosecuted involved a blend of clearly intentional mishandling of national secrets, or disloyalty to the U.S., or obstruction of justice. “But we do not see those things here,” he said.
    Was there evidence of intentional mishandling, disloyalty, or obstruction of justice?

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    Just in case anyone thought we were still living under the rule of law, the head of the FBI actually said this:



    This is a pass for Hillary Clinton only. All you little people will face punishment should you do what she did.
    Still, Comey said, individuals found to have done what Clinton and her senior aides did rarely face “no consequences.”
    Instead, “those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions,” he said.
    But with Clinton and her top aides out of government, that seemed unlikely to occur.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-comey...895.html?nhp=1

    The kinds of things you get fired or reprimanded for.

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    Was there evidence of intentional mishandling, disloyalty, or obstruction of justice?
    That's a straw man

    again:

    18 U.S. Code § 793

    (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any do ent, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
    Shall be fined under this le or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
    From Comeys quote:

    lthough we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
    What exactly is the difference between extremely careless and gross negligence? It's gross negligence if someone else does it but just extremely careless if Clinton does it?

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    LOL @ the obvious corruption and selling/buying of favors going on.
    This. They're basically sticking it on our face at this point.

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