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    Spurs shot 41% for the game.

    That was an ugly, ugly game tonight but the Suns found a way to get some stops when they needed them.

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    We missed to many wide open shots.

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    Are you serious?!

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    If you think great defense,

    is the Spurs missing lots of open shots, and Duncan missing countless open shots, and Ginobili missing layups, along with Parker.

    Then, whatever lets you sleep at night I guess.

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    Suns are a damm fine team, and will be a threat and the way it will match up they will most likely get the 3 seed and avoid the 1-4 winner from the Spurs/Mavs until the finals.

    Spurs will win those series but don't kid yourself the Suns are a loaded team and I for one would love for the Spurs to pick up one more addition.

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    Is this like the Cleveland game when Detroit couldn't make anything, many wide open shots, and the Cavs got props for putting on a "Detroit defense" like performance?

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    LOL

    Nobody will answer the question?


    Nobody said great defense T_Park.

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    Sure their D is improved. See first page of the Game Blog. The Spurs are #1 in Opp. FG%, the Suns were tied for 5th. We all know they are improved.

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    Nobody said great defense T_Park
    Its slightly improved.

    Because Amare isn't playing.

    That simple.

    Bring Amare back and that D

    WOOOSH

    back down where it was before.

    Had Duncan decided to play tonight, Thomas wouldve been gone earlier and the game would've been closer.

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    Sure their D is improved. See first page of the Game Blog. The Spurs are #1 in Opp. FG%, the Suns were tied for 5th. We all know they are improved.

    Some people know.

    I had someone tell me it was a myth yesterday.


    Just wonder if anyone still thought it is not improved.

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    Its slightly improved.

    Because Amare isn't playing.

    That simple.

    Bring Amare back and that D

    WOOOSH

    back down where it was before.
    I am going to feel sorry for you when your reality comes crashing down around you. lol

    Had Duncan decided to play tonight, Thomas wouldve been gone earlier and the game would've been closer.
    Only if......

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    I also think that they have improved a lot.
    This defeat isn't a fluke, Spurs were with Parker, Duncan and Ginobili and lost to a Amare less Suns (and despite what T Park says they are still better with than without him).
    There should be more compe ion for the Spurs than some were thinking.
    All indicates that we could meet the Mavs and Suns before an eventual revenge versus the Pistons. That would be fun to watch.

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    Suns had a good defensive strategy on Parker early, with Marion assigned to keep him out of the paint. And Kurt Thomas clearly gives Duncan more trouble than most (although I still don't think they went to him often enough.)

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    I think the Spurs can still beat them in a 7 game series but they are to be reckoned with!

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    they could probably hold me to 50 points a game. i'd say that is pretty good

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    Is there defense better or improved? No, maybe, but barely noticable.

    Tonight, the Spurs made silly costly mistakes down the stretch that cost them the game.

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    i don't know why parker thought he needed to take that many outside shots. ugly, ugly game, and some of the worst officiating i have ever seen both ways. violet and bavetta.

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    CMON whose goin to take teh suns serious? not us, thats why we lost

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    and some of the worst officiating i have ever seen both ways. violet and bavetta.
    Yes, yes and yes.

    Just to give an example. Spurs foul Bell with a little over 3 seconds left on the game clock in the 4th.

    The clock continues to click away after the refs blow the whistle. It stops at .9

    Refs then tell the table to add more time. About 3.2, right? Nope, 1.4

    WTF?

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    or tim grabbing the rim right in front of bevetta and him not seeing it. the first quarter was really bad. spurs went 8-0, then it was 9-8 suns and the whistles blew for about a minute straight.

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    Evidence of improved defense:


    • 43.2% avg opposing fg% (5th in the league)
    • +7.1 pts differential (3rd in the league)
    • 6.1 blocks per game (4th in the league--.2 less than #1 Nuggets)
    • 15.5 avg opposing turn overs per game (3rd in league)
    • 20.3 fouls per game (least committed in league)
    • 34.1 defensive rebounds per game (#1 in the league--both Phx and San Antonio suck at o-rebounding--but both in top three for team fg%)
    • 16.2 avg opposing assists per game (2nd to San Antonio--although the Suns are +10.5 in the differential while the next closest is +4.4)
    The Suns are following the Spurs lead in playing defense. While they don't hold opponents under 90 like the Spurs, they keep them under 100 (97.3 to be exact). They also don't allow their opponents to get a lot of assists (something pointed out in ESPN's national broadcast last night). But the most telling is the opposing FG%. The Suns have been much improved in preventing wide open shots (hence Parkers ineffectiveness in the key). To say it's because Amare is out is a false understanding. The Suns made roster moves with defense in mind. Last season the only stellar defender Phoenix had was Marion while Stoudemire was playing out of position (center). The Suns got Kurt Thomas so they could slide Stoudemire back to PF and Marion back to SF (their natural positions). Bell is a better defender than Joe Johnson while just about anything is a better defender than Richardson although Diaw has been spectacular.

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    Evidence of improved defense:


    • 16.2 avg opposing assists per game (2nd to San Antonio--although the Suns are +10.5 in the differential while the next closest is +4.4)
    The Suns are following the Spurs lead in playing defense. While they don't hold opponents under 90 like the Spurs, they keep them under 100 (97.3 to be exact). They also don't allow their opponents to get a lot of assists (something pointed out in ESPN's national broadcast last night). But the most telling is the opposing FG%. The Suns have been much improved in preventing wide open shots (hence Parkers ineffectiveness in the key). To say it's because Amare is out is a false understanding. The Suns made roster moves with defense in mind. Last season the only stellar defender Phoenix had was Marion while Stoudemire was playing out of position (center). The Suns got Kurt Thomas so they could slide Stoudemire back to PF and Marion back to SF (their natural positions). Bell is a better defender than Joe Johnson while just about anything is a better defender than Richardson although Diaw has been spectacular.
    Good analysis Cathar..
    The one that really has struck me is the opponent assists. And as you've mentioned that leads to FG%. Having a very low opponent assist avg means the Suns are playing excellent man-on-man defense - making teams earn their points and take tougher shots.

    These two teams are headed towards another WCF show down and Amare and Bobo will be back.

    It's gonna be fun.

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    Spurs make excitings teams look ugly..

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    Yeah they do.

    That winning the whole thing after making it look "ugly" is a aint it?

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    Suns defense has much improved even from the first 10 games or so of the season.

    Props to them for being able to adjust their game while Amare and Barbosa are out and still win their fair share of games.

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