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I have not heard an official amount of money Chicago has ofered only rumors.
Pistons offer Wallace 4-year, $48 million deal
Sunday, July 02, 2006
UPDATE: Adds contract figure and reworks lede
By A. Sherrod Blakely
AUBURN HILLS -- The Detroit Pistons got the ball rolling on negotiations with Ben Wallace on Saturday, offering the unrestricted free agent a four-year contract worth $48 million.
In presenting the proposed deal to Wallace's agent, Arn Tellum, Detroit offered Wallace a contract that would make him the highest-paid player in Pistons history.
Tellum was one of the few agents the Pistons spoke with on Saturday, the first day of free agency in the NBA. That's because the Pistons have to determine whether they can re-sign Wallace, a four-time All-Star, before they pursue other free agents.
Aware of the Pistons' priority regarding Wallace, agents didn't expect a call back from Detroit on Saturday.
Bill Duffy represents several of the more prominent free agents this summer, such as ex-Piston Mike James, Drew Gooden, Fred Jones, Michael Olowokandi (who played for Pistons coach Flip Saunders in Minnesota), and Speedy Claxton, who Joe Dumars, Detroit's president of basketball operations, is interested in.
"Joe's inundated with Ben Wallace right now," said Duffy, who also represents Pistons forward Tayshaun Prince. "That's where his focus is right now. We agents understand that."
Dumars' commitment to taking care of his own players, Duffy said, is among reasons other players are attracted to Detroit.
"That's one of his children, so you can understand why that's something Joe is really focusing in on right now," said Duffy, referring to Wallace. "He knows that part of the appeal to coming to Detroit is playing with Ben Wallace."
Still, William Phillips, who represents Bonzi Wells, said he was contacted by the Pistons regarding Wells.
A former Pistons draft pick, Wells had a great playoff series for Sacramento this spring. Although the Kings lost their first-round series in six games to the San Antonio Spurs, Wells was arguably the series' best player. The 6-foot-5 guard averaged 23.2 points and 12 rebounds per game while shooting 60.9 percent from the field in the series.
The Pistons may be willing to offer Wells a multi-year contract that would start at the mid-level exception, which should be about $5 million next season. However, because of Wells' strong postseason, other teams may be willing to pay him more than that.
Another player the Pistons may pursue later this summer as a backup point guard is ex-Piston Chucky Atkins. They also could re-sign Tony Delk or Lindsey Hunter.
http://www.mlive.com/pistons/storie...5110.xml&coll=1
I have not heard an official amount of money Chicago has ofered only rumors.
As great as Ben is he's not worth that esp. at his age. He's turning 32 in september. I think he's a $8-9 million a season player not $12 million like the Pistons offered him. Chicago is not going to offer him more then the Pistons so he'll most likely stay in Detroit.
I wish you were right. chicago might offer Ben a 5 year 75 million dollar contract
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I wish you were right. chicago might offer Ben a 5 year 75 million dollar contract
realy?
Amazing! But even if - I think Benman wants to be in a team that can win a championship. Chicago will not be a contender even with him on the lineup so probabaly he will stay with the old friends.
75 milions?!
we need bulls to sign ben
so that we can get joel from portland
ben leaving hurts pistons but helps a young bulls team alot
They will regret that every day after one or two years. What a lot of people don't realize is that Chicago has a ton of caproom, but they have several good young players to pay in the next year or two, like Gordon, Noccioni, and Deng. If they can get the Brown/Smith trade done with the Hornets and dump Chandler's deal, that makes this more doable, since Brown's $8M will come off the cap next summer.I wish you were right. chicago might offer Ben a 5 year 75 million dollar contract
Yes, they would. And more importantly, the Pistons wouldn't be a contender with him in their lineup.
That's fair. He's probably worth closer to 40 million on the court, but I'll gladly spend the extra 8 Mil to have another go at it the next few years.
That said, I expect Chicago to offer in the 4 year / 60 mil range.
and mami heat will regret trading odom for an out of shapped over payed shaq?
then again I am sure it was wade that won the finals nto shaq.
Me too.
Bulls : $60M/4 years.
Pistons : $48M/4 years.
My guess is that Pistons will raise their offer at $52M or $56M and that Ben will re-sign with them.
another positive if pistons lose ben wallace is their defense will get worse so maybe we will stop hearing DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD triot basketballllllllllll
Chicago a contender?
Not only would they be contenders, but they'd probably be the favorites to come out of the East. They'd be taking Ben away from the Pistons with no compensation, and I don't think the Pistons can afford to lose him and still contend.
Just remember they gave the Heat a very tough series, taking two games and pushing a few others to the limit. They match-up well with Miami: they have one of, if not the player who best guards Wade in Kirk Hinrich, and they're supposedly adding Ben, who will help a great deal with Shaq... as will time going by. Also, they have exploited the PF spot perfectly with Nocioni taking a sizable advantage over Haslem and Walker.
They have an excellent young team, overflowing with youth, athleticism and talent, and they're filling the holes to their team quite well. I love their moves. And it doesn't end there: They're stockpiling talent to pursue a trade for a star. Just take a look at their roster:
PG: Hinrich / Duhon
SG: Sefolosha / Gordon
SF: Deng / Nocioni / Khryapa
PF: Chandler / Tyrus Thomas / Mike Sweetney
C: Ben Wallace?
Say they package Chandler, one of Deng or Nocioni, Gordon and Duhon. With that many assets, they can realistically target basically any star around, like say Jermaine O'Neal.
If the Bulls get Ben Wallace, not only are they coming, they're doing so faster than anyone realizes.
Last edited by Ariel; 07-02-2006 at 11:51 AM.
Sefolosha starting over Ben Gordon?
If the matchups are right, yes. That's who Skiles is. They've been looking for a big defensive SG for a long time, and if Sefolosha is up to the task, there is a very good chance he's matched up against starting 2s, and Ben Gordon is used as a super sixth man, finishing the games.Sefolosha starting over Ben Gordon?
In fact, I don't know why you would be surprised, Skiles specifically addressed this on several different occasions, so...
The Bulls!
If the Bulls took Ben away from Detroit.
It would be one of the biggest power shifts since Shaq got traded to Miami.
Devastating IMO to the Pistons.
Heres the question.
Would the Pistons then be interested in a sign and trade for say, aaaa Carlos Delfino?
Here's a long thread already talking about this in the NBA Forum, in case anyone is interested.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45184
If Ben signs with the Bulls, Detroit might go after Joel Przybilla as well. And, they can offer the same thing as the Spurs, a chance to start on a championship caliber team for the full MLE. So, while Chicago signing Ben might put the Bulls out of the bidding war for Przybilla, it also brings Detroit into the biddig war.
?it also brings Detroit into the biddig war
Equal pay is a "bidding war" ?
we can compete with someone offering the same money because he woudl perfer to be here then detriot riot pistons
Paxson and Skiles have both said that Gordon is the starter.
Thats great...
Quote? I've read most Bulls articles around, and I've never read anything of the sort. All the opposite, in fact. I remember Skiles suggesting that maybe that's who Gordon is (a sixth man), when asked for the thousand time about starting him. Unfortunately I can't quite get a hold on the article, but I'll come up with it eventually.
But let's go to the facts.. Ben Gordon has started in 50 games of a total 162 in his two years in the league. The starting backcourt roles were given, for much of those seasons, to Duhon and Hinrich. If he's willing to disrupt his team by playing 2 PGs with little to no offense while constantly having to adjust by having Hinrich guard opposing 2s, doesn't that tell you anything? What is the point in having a supposedly sure starter, as you claim they say, come off the bench, when the alternative is clearly far from perfect?
It should also be noticed that, for the most part, those starts had much more to do with not having any other natural scorer on the team than with Ben himself. Eddy Curry on the Bulls would have solidified the trend, but Skiles at times needed to throw him in there just because he had no choice as first quarters droughts were becoming impossible to sustain.
Skiles has shown over time that he doesn't envision Gordon as a starter, but as a game changer through his instant offense. If Sefolosha is half decent, he'll take over the starting spot in no time, allowing Skiles to field an ortodox backcourt, and using Ben the way he means to, off the bench.
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