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    Here we go again boys and girls after the un ingmitigating disaster of Holting Pattern 1.0 with the Kidd pimping, the Spurs ended up with their brilliant planning by picking up Rasho Nesterovic plus Robert Horry who has been the single biggest reason the Spurs got jacked out of the '04 and '06 playoffs. Add an added bonus of passing on Josh Howard to save cap space. Trading the pick to the Suns.

    We now have Holting Pattern 1.1. Not only does the new Holting Pattern hamstring the Spurs from adding players looking for more than a two year deal this year but the fun continues next year when the Spurs have to find guys who'll take one year deals. Welcome to Holting Pattern 1.1. I hope the front office has a better clue this time around because last time they sucked.

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    one wonders what the angle is. is it simple posturing for the negotiations with javtokas? are they afraid duncan will walk in '08? are they planning for the '08 free agent class (the ones worth pursuing will be restricted free agents or signed to extensions)?

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    atleast next year they have a first round pick and bucks second round pick if they do nto trade them

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    I wouldn't underestimate the fact that the Spurs seem to be one of the few NBA organizations that have vision and they are working a plan that extends beyond the profitability model.

    It seems to be an excellence model....which would include, but not be limited to, profitability.

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    maybe it's just the realization that with duncan, ginobili, and parker and the current cast for the next 2 years that the team will be good enough to be considered a contender and make at least the 2nd round of the playoffs.

    why spend more?

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    plus Robert Horry who has been the single biggest reason the Spurs got jacked out of the '04 and '06 playoffs.
    so his contributions in 05 mean jack .

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    You would think by now that the Spurs would realize that having cap space is overrated. They never get who they are going after and along the way, they lose out on much more talented players.

    Get talent when you can and how you can. If you suddenly want to change your roster, trade that talent for other talent. Don't rely on free agency. Who is the biggest free agent the Spurs ever signed? Brent Barry?

    This clearing cap space is lame and will probably end up costing the Spurs again.

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    I gotta tell you... I have never seen such a bunch of negative ninnys year-in-and-year out in regards to the Spurs roster. You badmouth SJax. You badouth Rasho. You badmouth Nazr. You praise Horry. You want SJax back. You badmouth Bonner. You want Rasho back. You badmouth Jeffries. You madmouth Elson. You wish we could have Jeffries instead of Elson. You badmouth Horry.

    I'm just glad 1) you aren't actually calling the shots, and 2) these guys don't read these boards.

    Y'all sound like uo fans.

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    I wouldn't underestimate the fact that the Spurs seem to be one of the few NBA organizations that have vision and they are working a plan that extends beyond the profitability model.

    It seems to be an excellence model....which would include, but not be limited to, profitability.

    No holding pattern for raising ticket prices, just for adding salaries.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    I love that we are now a fanbase that cries about winning only one championship in three seasons.

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    I wouldn't underestimate the fact that the Spurs seem to be one of the few NBA organizations that have vision and they are working a plan that extends beyond the profitability model.

    It seems to be an excellence model....which would include, but not be limited to, profitability.
    I like the model where the Spurs main focus is winning.

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    No holding pattern for raising ticket prices, just for adding salaries.
    Cuban spends AND reduced ticket prices for next season...

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    I love that we are now a fanbase that cries about winning only one championship in three seasons.
    With Duncan, Manu and Parker, there's no reason why this team doesn't win the next two championships. Instead, it appears that the Spurs will be posturing for the 2009-10 season.

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    I love that we are now a fanbase that cries about winning only one championship in three seasons.
    spurs fans have now turned into george steinbrenners.

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    Is this sudden conclusion that the Spurs are freeing up cap space for 2008 based on any actual communication from the Spurs or anyone close to the team? Or just conjecture?

    I haven't read through all of the threads.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    I like the model where the Spurs main focus is winning.
    Yeah, all these trips to the lottery are starting to suck.

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    so spurs fans are spoiled because they dont want the ownership getting cheap through the rest of a nba legend's career? man you ownership asskissers. it's drones like you who allow the spurs to get by with less.

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    No holding pattern for raising ticket prices
    whos ticket prices are getting raised.

    Mine haven't been raised since they moved into the new building.

    In fact the went down a few bucks.

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    i'd pay a little more to win now

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    I like the model where the Spurs main focus is winning.
    The last data point is a franchise-best 63 wins and a loss in a very close (classic) playoff series. I don't think Spurs' leadership has demonstrated a loss of focus yet, in meaningful numbers and results, from their vision.

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    Is this sudden conclusion that the Spurs are freeing up cap space for 2008 based on any actual communication from the Spurs or anyone close to the team? Or just conjecture?

    I haven't read through all of the threads.
    Pretty much worrysome bull they are pulling out of their asses.

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    I gotta tell you... I have never seen such a bunch of negative ninnys year-in-and-year out in regards to the Spurs roster. You badmouth SJax. You badouth Rasho. You badmouth Nazr. You praise Horry. You want SJax back. You badmouth Bonner. You want Rasho back. You badmouth Jeffries. You madmouth Elson. You wish we could have Jeffries instead of Elson. You badmouth Horry.

    I'm just glad 1) you aren't actually calling the shots, and 2) these guys don't read these boards.

    Y'all sound like uo fans.
    Year in and year out? Didn't you just get here?

    Anyway, a lot of people (i.e. Sequspur) complain all the time.

    But I don't see what's wrong with people being worried right now that the Spurs are looking toward people like Francisco Elson to be a starting center.

    I don't know about you, but I'm not please thinking about the possibility of the bigmen being Tim and Elson backed up by Horry, Oberto and Bonner. That sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

    And if the Spurs just want a 2M scrub like Elson. I don't get why they don't go for one of the scrubs that is a) younger, b) a better defender and/or c) unrestricted.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    With Duncan, Manu and Parker, there's no reason why this team doesn't win the next two championships. Instead, it appears that the Spurs will be posturing for the 2009-10 season.
    With Rasho and Nazr, or without the team spotting the Mavericks game 2, there's no reason the team isn't celebrating this year's championship. The Spurs have developing talent that they haven't brought to the team yet, and they are following the exact same pattern they've always followed, which will make them a top team until the 2009 season anyway.

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    Is this sudden conclusion that the Spurs are freeing up cap space for 2008 based on any actual communication from the Spurs or anyone close to the team? Or just conjecture?

    I haven't read through all of the threads.
    The Spurs are following the same patterns we've seen before. The Spurs sign players to short contracts to open up salary cap room in the upcoming years. Two years ago, the Spurs were only offering four-year contracts. Last year they were offering three year contracts. This year it's two year contracts. Next year it'll be one year contracts.

    Some old ploy that didn't work last time.

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    Id love to know when this team's revenue stream became the Yankees or Knicks.

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