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    Kid got his second DNP in a row and no medical condition was listed as a reason.

    It's clear he's in Karl's doghouse again and has found himself out of the rotation altogether.

    Facts for:

    - Spurs have previous interest, almost pulling off a deadline deal a few years back that didn't get completed in time.

    - Spurs are in search of cheap young wing players that can shoot....and while he's no D-league bargain, Smith certainly fits those categories.

    - Spurs have a couple assets that could be utilized. IIRC, Spurs got a trade exception from the Beno deal that might work. The other deal would be to send back Elson. Both would be accompanied with a pick I assume.


    Facts against:

    - Smith has had off-court issues in the past couple years that might deter the Spurs FO

    - Smith has also had some on-court mental lapses that might land him in the doghouse as much here as he is in Denver

    - Unless the Spurs get some cash back or make the move with Elson, getting Smith might put them over the lux tax threshold.

    - Johnson, Langford, Williams, or any number of D-league players could offer both short-term and long-term solutions at the wing position most likely for a cheaper price.


    Bottom Line: Smith is a wildly talented young player that has landed himself in Karl's doghouse and could probably be had on the cheap. But the reason he's in the doghouse is his propensity to make mental mistakes and probably some off-court baggage, so he might not be worth it.

    I just thoght I'd throw it out there and see what people thought....good, bad, feasible?

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    I'd rather give Johnson and Langford some time.

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    no thugs please... prefer to give DeMarr a chance

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    I'd rather the Spurs did not take a chance Smith. I think standing pat is their best option, with the hope that Udoka becomes more comfortable with their system between now and the playoffs.

    If they did rekindle old flames, I'd prefer they flirt with someone like C-Mags. Barry, Elson and a 2nd round pick might get it done. That works under the cap and would save the Spurs 1.5 million this season. They could still keep D. Johnson, too. If they want to gamble, Maggette is not a bad option. He only has one more year on his contract, with an option this summer. If he walked, no one would cry.

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    no thugs please... prefer to give DeMarr a chance
    Not trying to say you're wrong about thuggary, but DeMarr isn't exactly an upstanding citizen either. He's had off-court issues of his own.

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    Even if he were playing for free and had entered the seminary I doubt I could welcome JR Smith with open arms.

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    I don't want JR...

    Plus, he chocked badly against us last playoffs, so no

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    If they did rekindle old flames, I'd prefer they flirt with someone like C-Mags. Barry, Elson and a 2nd round pick might get it done. That works under the cap and would save the Spurs 1.5 million this season. They could still keep D. Johnson, too. If they want to gamble, Maggette is not a bad option. He only has one more year on his contract, with an option this summer. If he walked, no one would cry.
    I was all for the Maggette deal last year, but similar to last year, it seems the Spurs FO is content to stick with this core group of rotation players for 07-08.

    If the Spurs do make a trade, which I admit is a BIG if, I think it would be for smaller players that may or may not factor into the equation this year....like they did last year with Williams-for-Ely.

    Smith could be swapped for a guy that plays a limited role on this team (Elson), and he would be an option at the wing position down the stretch, but not necessarily counted on for production.

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    keep udoka and DJ plz

    what we need is not more wing players...but a fukn backup PG immediately

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    keep udoka and DJ plz

    what we need is not more wing players...but a fukn backup PG immediately
    Agreed. Vaughn is a stop gap at best...so why have we been without a true backup for nearly two years?

    Udoka could very easily come around as a nice piece next season and Dermarr has a pretty nice chance of panning out as well. We're looking better on the wings for the future now than I thought we would.

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    corey maggette will be available?

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    checking the trade machine, he has 2 years left on his $7mil a year contract. any thoughts on him?

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    Agreed. Vaughn is a stop gap at best...so why have we been without a true backup for nearly two years?

    Udoka could very easily come around as a nice piece next season and Dermarr has a pretty nice chance of panning out as well. We're looking better on the wings for the future now than I thought we would.
    Who are you going to get that takes care of the ball as well as Vaughn, plays defense as well as Vaughn, and makes a relatively similar salary? TP is the man at the point and there isn't anyone with big time talent willing to play second fiddle. Even if there were, that would be an expensive backup PG and money horribly spent.

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    Why give Popovich that headache?

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    Trust me you don't want JR Smith. He's a known headcase, I'm sure Pop could handle him but why do that to yourself?

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    Screw that punk.

    He does not deserve to ever wear another NBA jersey...

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    No.
    And even if Spurs want to have a look at Smith, they can wait this summer and signing him. He will likely be an unrestricted free agent.
    My fantasy trade target, among realistic options, for the deadline is Ryan Gomes.

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    Kid got his second DNP in a row and no medical condition was listed as a reason.

    It's clear he's in Karl's doghouse again and has found himself out of the rotation altogether.

    Facts for:

    - Spurs have previous interest, almost pulling off a deadline deal a few years back that didn't get completed in time.

    - Spurs are in search of cheap young wing players that can shoot....and while he's no D-league bargain, Smith certainly fits those categories.

    - Spurs have a couple assets that could be utilized. IIRC, Spurs got a trade exception from the Beno deal that might work. The other deal would be to send back Elson. Both would be accompanied with a pick I assume.


    Facts against:

    - Smith has had off-court issues in the past couple years that might deter the Spurs FO

    - Smith has also had some on-court mental lapses that might land him in the doghouse as much here as he is in Denver


    - Unless the Spurs get some cash back or make the move with Elson, getting Smith might put them over the lux tax threshold.

    - Johnson, Langford, Williams, or any number of D-league players could offer both short-term and long-term solutions at the wing position most likely for a cheaper price.


    Bottom Line: Smith is a wildly talented young player that has landed himself in Karl's doghouse and could probably be had on the cheap. But the reason he's in the doghouse is his propensity to make mental mistakes and probably some off-court baggage, so he might not be worth it.

    I just thoght I'd throw it out there and see what people thought....good, bad, feasible?
    Nice breakdown, not going to happen because of emboldened reasons.

    If Beno and Malik could'nt get out of Pop's doghouse, do you think JR ever would?

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    corey maggette will be available?

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    checking the trade machine, he has 2 years left on his $7mil a year contract. any thoughts on him?
    I know he's not a popular choice on this board, but I still like Maggette for the skills that he brings to the table. I said it last year, the Spurs could stand to benefit from his midrange game, getting into the paint, rebounding and FT shooting. I like him so much more than Smith.

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    I know he's not a popular choice on this board, but I still like Maggette for the skills that he brings to the table. I said it last year, the Spurs could stand to benefit from his midrange game, getting into the paint, rebounding and FT shooting. I like him so much more than Smith.

    I whole heartedly agree with this sentiment. But Maggette's price tag is also quite a bit bigger. JR Smith is an outcast that the Nuggets would love to part with. Maggette is a guy that plays a crucial role for his team though and is in their plans for the future right now. Not to mention how much more Maggette makes than Smith and the assets that it would require to pry him away vs. Smith.

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    corey maggette will be available?

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    checking the trade machine, he has 2 years left on his $7mil a year contract. any thoughts on him?

    NO

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    I whole heartedly agree with this sentiment. But Maggette's price tag is also quite a bit bigger. JR Smith is an outcast that the Nuggets would love to part with. Maggette is a guy that plays a crucial role for his team though and is in their plans for the future right now. Not to mention how much more Maggette makes than Smith and the assets that it would require to pry him away vs. Smith.
    I believe Maggette is an unrestricted FA after this season.

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    The Spurs should go for Arenas. Just seeing Popovich having to deal with him would be fun to watch.

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    The Spurs should go for Arenas. Just seeing Popovich having to deal with him would be fun to watch.

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    I believe Maggette is an unrestricted FA after this season.
    He still has one more year after this season, at $7M.

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