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That would mean that the Spurs were guaranteed to win if Duncan hadn't been thrown out. There's no way to know that answer for sure, though.
Just said "show me proof where JC's personal vendetta has ever affected the outcome of a game". pal i guess you did not watch the game on Sunday did you?
That would mean that the Spurs were guaranteed to win if Duncan hadn't been thrown out. There's no way to know that answer for sure, though.
he was very heated about the whole discussion on the last word, basically everyone but jay mariotti thought it was a wrong decision which was kind of funny but whatever, i'm glad for now
Of course not guranteed but JC took the best player on the floor out of the game for the whole 4th qtr in a game the Spurs were leading in. If that is not affecting the outcome of the game you tell me what is?
Yea, I like Smith a lot, he is a good reporter, but it seemed like he had personal issues invested in his argument today, didnt make a lot of sense
The Spurs were pretty much playing their style of ball before the ejection. After the ejection that all went away.
Fact is though, it is hard to say that any act by an official causes a game to be won or lost. Unless that call comes very late in the action, who knows what could have been? But when you pull a team's best player with a full quarter left in the game then that team is at an obvious disadvantage.
Would the Spurs have won? Maybe, maybe not. But with Duncan on the court the Spurs were playing the way they wanted. Dallas' chances improved monumentally with the Duncan ejection and they still only won by a handful.
There were several calls that were questionable right after Tim was tossed. (Such as with Oberto) Then the Spurs had a hard time getting back into any flow. Oh yeah, JC influenced the results.
I watched it.
That entire sequence was bull . Those are just absolutely fallacious, ridiculous arguments. The key point is that the NBA has more than enough evidence that Crawford challenged Tim Duncan to a fight.
Seriously, imagine if an authority figure at the place that you worked - say your boss - threatened you and challenged you to a fight. His ass would be gone...hopefully. And that is close enough of an analogy to what happened on Sunday.
I'm pretty peeved. I like Around the Horn but all but Mariotti were acting like ass clowns in talking about Joey's previous service and how this ruins him. Professionalism is everything, especially in being an NBA referee. There is NOTHING more important than professionalism in that career. And if you sacrifice that - which Crawford clearly did in challenging Duncan to a fight - then you have nothing. Your exemplary service before that shouldn't/doesn't count for #@%$...
David Stern was asked point blank by Dan Patrick if he thought Crawford made it personal. Stern said he didn't think it was personal at all. He also agreed that moving forward Crawford could officiate games in an unbiased fashion.
The problem is that Crawford seems to think if any player acts the way Duncan acted, he should be ejected, and he would do it again.
If he'd ejected Beno for doing the same thing, he wouldn't be suspended, in my opinion. I think this bothers Joey and it sounds like he might never return.
spurs were not guaranteed a win, regardless of being up, they lost an eight point lead earlier and a six point lead earlier in the game with duncan, so there's no assured win there, especially looking at the way manu and parker were completely ineffective on their own for long stretches in the fourth...however, they should have been given the opportunity to at least try to win with duncan and crawford took that away which is ed up
I really think that the NBA wouldnt have suspended one of their best refs unless they really felt like they had too. They must have had a lot of evidence
They clearly had proof he challenged Tim to fight and if he did not even tell Stern he was wrong and sorry for that, exactly what is Stern suppossed to do? Crawford may be done, we may never see him again and it is his own damn fault.
spurs should be thanking the mavericks...crawford's been walking a tight rope ever since the nelson ejection back in 2003...an incident where i'm fairly certain loads of spurs fans applauded! this was just icing on the cake!
JC still was calling bull calls even after TD was gone. Does anyone remember the "foul" on Oberto where he was just standing there and Howard ran over him?
The refs decided this game, no doubt about it.
I wasnt disagreeing with the assesment
wasn't he on ATH?
Very true. The outcome was still in doubt well after the ejection.That would mean that the Spurs were guaranteed to win if Duncan hadn't been thrown out. There's no way to know that answer for sure, though.
well I am cool with the suspension.. the homers at espn still think tim whines too much.. but doesn't every player in the league whine too much... I remember when shaq was in his prime in LA .. he thought he got fouled every time he touched the rock...
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