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    Paul Calvisi of KTAR FM 92.3 here in Phoenix is reporting that the Suns are in serious negotiations to bring Andre Kirilinko to the Suns in exchange for Shawn Marion. Calvisi is considered a pretty reliable source locally but is more of an NFL guy. KTAR is not yet reporting the story on it's website but here is a link in case anyone wants to monitor it.
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    this was found on another board

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    http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/200...arion-to-utah/

    The rumors are flying this morning. KTAR 620 is reporting that the Phoenix Suns are in negotiations with the Utah Jazz in a supposed deal that would send Shawn Marion north for Andrei Kirilenko.

    Andrei averaged 8.3 points, 2.1 blocks and 4.7 rebounds in one of his worst seasons last year. He stepped it up in the playoffs however and got some of his confidence back. Perhaps Utah is ready to give him a change of scenery?

    It seems the same with the Suns and Marion. The rumors crop up each off-season, they already involved him in the Kevin Garnett fiasco earlier this summer, but now this out of left field is sure be a legitimate deal. And at this point, not trading Shawn could do more harm than good come the regular season, with his fragile psyche when it comes to getting what he deserves and being wanted.


    Marion for Kirilenko? Really? Aside from a great shot blocker, is this really a good deal for Phoenix? According to RealGM, we lose 9.2 points and 5.1 rebounds. Sadly, the trade also works as a straight up deal so the reality of it sets in.

    What do you guys think? Horrible trade? Comment below and enlighten me if I’m missing anything. He obviously makes less than Marion, so are we looking at another Kurt Thomas save-some-money deal?

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    he makes about 2.5 less then shawn for 2 years but after that Andre Kirilinko makes way more
    he has a max contract

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    After his on-court performance and off-court whining last season, I would bet that Andrei's psyche is as fragile as Marion's.

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    Kirilenko kinda sucks. He was the invisible man during the conference finals, and didnt he end up crying after one of the games?
    I think it would be a horrible trade for PHX. Marion is a much better player IMO. definitely a save money kinda deal if it goes through.

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    I'm not sure if Kirilinko's style of play benefits the Suns. Maybe this is to make up for the Thomas trade. I really don't know. It's one of those trades that's confusing. It's too early to think about this kinda stuff.

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    A straight up trade for the two worst contracts in the NBA! I'd say the Jazz come out ahead on the deal. I think Marion can do everything for them that AK did, but I don't know if AK can bring Marion's numbers to the Suns.

    EDIT: I guess that should read "two of the worst contracts" since Rashard Lewis is not involved in this trade.

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    Suns management team are like the chronic gambler at the roulette wheel. They keep pulling that lever and taking chances with their roster every offseason - only to keep getting 3 lemons.

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    I actually think that deal would make Utah better and hurt Phoenix.

    The Jazz already rebound the ball like crazy on both ends and Marion would only add to that, while giving them a guy who is probably a better pure defender than Kirilenko and a guy who can truly get out on the break and finish with the best.

    I think Marion is an underrated component of what the Suns do, because he's a fairly consistent rebounder on a team full of guys who don't do that. He's a far better rebounder, in my estimation, than Kirilenko is.

    If this is legitimate, I really don't get what the Suns are doing right now.

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    steve kerr wants to put his mark on the suns... if he does this trade

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    Andre brings shot blocking.

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    Andre brings shot blocking.
    after he lets his man beat him

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    KirilEnko has been really impressive so far in the euro tournament.
    He's scoring rebounding blocking defending. He isn't the player we faced in the playoffs.

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    after he lets his man beat him
    most come from help defense.

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    KirilEnko has been really impressive so far in the euro tournament.
    He's scoring rebounding blocking defending. He isn't the player we faced in the playoffs.
    he looked awful in last years playoffs, but he's been a beast in his past.

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    KirilEnko has been really impressive so far in the euro tournament.
    He's scoring rebounding blocking defending. He isn't the player we faced in the playoffs.
    He's also not facing the Spurs.

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    ducks... you're a dumbazz

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    ducks... you're a dumbazz
    thank you

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    BB wise it doesn't make a lot of sense for Suns but they could do this trade for financial reasons. Suns are over the luxury tax and if they trade Marion for Kirilenko, they will be just under it. Suns will save something like $7M this year by doing this trade.

    Marion has too more trade value than Kirilenko, Suns could get something more like a first round pick or a cheap player like Brewer or even Millsap. Suns could too ask Utah to take Banks and his contract.

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    He's also not facing the Spurs.
    true but he played some games nearly 1 on 5 ^^

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    why would the suns wanna take this deal? Do they really wanna get rid of Marion that badly?

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    A straight up trade for the two worst contracts in the NBA! I'd say the Jazz come out ahead on the deal. I think Marion can do everything for them that AK did, but I don't know if AK can bring Marion's numbers to the Suns.

    EDIT: I guess that should read "two of the worst contracts" since Rashard Lewis is not involved in this trade.
    Francis and Foyle DID get bought out, so their contracts came off the books....but Darius Miles still has a whopping $10M+/year contract and the knees of an 80 year old.

    Miles is by far the worst contract in the NBA.

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    This would be a funny trade because these two guys are both so "sensitive." I think each team would think they were getting rid of a baby and be getting the same thing in return

    But, I think (like many have said) basketball wise, this would help Utah much more than Phoenix.

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    They might be hoping to hide Amare's defensive liabilities with AK47. Marion wasn't able to do that.

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    They might be hoping to hide Amare's defensive liabilities with AK47. Marion wasn't able to do that.
    that's the thinking, but their problem is Parker. They have absolutely no answers and at times used Marion. No way Andre plays Parker.

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