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Would be great to have him but I doubt the Warriors will let him go. IIRC he has a player option but he will probably opt out because he had a good year. It will be interesting to see if SA will really try to get him.
Would be great to have him but I doubt the Warriors will let him go. IIRC he has a player option but he will probably opt out because he had a good year. It will be interesting to see if SA will really try to get him.
he wouldnt hurt....he's better then most of the guys on our roster...go spurs go
Please Spurs, go after him.
I doubt the Warriors will let him go.
The warriors have to resign Baron Davis, Montae Ellis, and Him.
They probobly can only afford 2 of the 3.
Who do they let go?
Azubuike
Maybe, you have to wait and see how it plays out.
I'm sure there will be other teams vying for his services as well who might be able to offer more money.
The other point I always make with the Spurs is, we are interested in him, that doesn't mean THEY are
Whatever....
Go Jacque Vaughn!
It's no question that Baron and Andris are more important to GS than Kelenna is.
The Spurs ain't gettin . they are going to go with the parker, duncan, every fourth game manu, old ass bowen and old ass can't run finley.
same different day...
oh and vaughn and bonner off the bench....
whatever...
Yeah I forgot that Biedrins is a FA too, but knowing Don Nelson he would want to let Biderins go.
That would be a little tough seeing as Finley is retiring genius.
Well, if he does let Biedrins go, that's target #1 if Splitter stays in Europe.
Big GS fan here so I've seen him play a lot. He's a fan favorite and Nelson likes his toughness and hustle. He loves going after rebounds, gets a lot of junk baskets, and has improved on his jump shot. He moves well without the ball too. Not to mention he plays some good defense. I'd love to see the Spurs get him but I won't get my hopes up.
Not sure how the Warriors keep him when they need to focus on Ellis, Biedrins, and Davis.
A lot of teams will show interest in him.
I would rather play Mahinmi.
Warriors have some decisions to make.
Baron Davis
Pietrus
Barnes
Jasikevicius
Biedrins
O'Bryant
Croshere
Ellis
Azubuike
Mbenga
Lasme
All are free agents this summer for GS.
Assuming Baron and Biedrins both opt out (which I think is a safe assumption):
The cap will be about $58 million, and with those two opting out they'll be sitting at about $27 million in committed salary.
You have to figure they want Baron, Ellis, and Biedrins back for sure. I think they also want Pietrus and Barnes back for sure, but are willing to sacrifice one in FA to keep the other. They've also got a young big they like in O'Bryant and a couple of Euros in Lasme and Perovic they like.
My guess is that Davis, Ellis, Biedrins, and Petrius/Barnes eat up all their cap space, put them at 11 players on the books, and then they still have to fill out their roster with 1-2 more guys.
I realize some of those guys like Perovic, O'Bryant, and Lasme can be stashed in the NBDL, but they're running out of cash and roster slots in a hurry just bringing Davis, Barnes/Pietrus, Ellis, and Biedrins back in the fold.
Do it, R.C.
^I don't think GS is that interested keeping in Barnes/Petrius.
You also had to look at Warriors financial situation to know if the will keep him.
The Luxury Tax Threshold should be around $71M this year and it will be a hard cap figure.
Warriors have 5 players under contract (Harrington, SJax, Brendan Wright, Perovic and Belinelli). They also have a Foyle buyout. All this compute for $29.2M.
So Warriors have $41.8M to get at least 8 players.
Baron Davis has a $17.8 players option, it's a lot of money and even if there are some rumors I don't see him opting out.
Warriors have the 14th pick in the draft who will have a $1.7M salary.
So you have $22.3M left for at least 6 players.
Ellis and Harrington will be their first target . If they both get a new contract with a $8M starting salary, Warriors will have $6.3M to fill the roster. It's not a lot of money and Warriors will basically be able to keep only one of Azubuike, Barnes or Pietrus.
Jasikevicius is in Europe so I don't think they care about him
Petrius is gone I agree.^I don't think GS is that interested keeping in Barnes/Petrius.
Barnes I could see them resigning.
I think you're wrong. The two of them have been Golden State's best two perimeter defenders not named Stephen Jackson the last two seasons. They want to keep one of them.
The bottom line is, how much money is Golden State willing to spend at its 2/3 spots?
Ellis will be a 10 million dollar guy at the 2. They have Buckets for about 8 mil at the three, and also like to go big and slide Al Harrington to the three. Then you've got Pietrus, Barnes, Kelenna out there. They can't keep them all.
You factor in that they've got two young cheap guys already on the roster that are capable/potential capable backups at the two (Belinelli for 1.5 million this coming season) and three (Lasme for cheap as he's unproven), and it's hard to see Golden State ponying up 40 million or so at the 2 and 3 like they'd have to do to keep all those guys.
And that's not even touching on the fact Baron's was on the books this past season for $17 million and will command similar numbers and Biedrins and Ellis will both be $10 million dollar men. To keep those three, Golden State is about out of cap room unless they take 'for the good of the team' deals that are smaller than market value.
Which frankly I can't see either Ellis or Biedrins doing as this will be their first big contracts in the league. I could see Baron taking a smaller deal, but still, say he takes $10 mil, those other two are $10 mil, that's $30 million combined right there and puts GS right up at the salary cap for 2008-2009 without even talking to Pietrus, Barnes, and Kelenna.
I think if New York tries to woo baron Davis, that would pressure them into a decision quicker as well.
Unless I missed something Harrington's on the books for two more years, he's got $9.3 million due to him this coming season.
And I forgot that Baron's got a player option for $17.3 million, with his knee problems I don't see him opting out and taking a chance. Also, I think it's one more season for Foyle before the team has the option on him.
So guaranteed money you've got:
Davis $17.3 million
Foyle $9.8 million
Harrington $9.2 million
Jackson $7.2 million
Wright $2.5 million
Belinelli $1.5 million
Draft pick $1.4 million
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$49 million
And that's without even talking to Biedrins and Ellis.
We all know they want to keep Ellis, and he'll probably be a $10 million dollar guy, so they're already up against the salary cap. Then they have Bird Rights for any of Biedrins, Pietrus, Barnes that they want to re-sign, but Biedrins ain't coming cheap either.
I actually see them signing Ellis, Biedrins, one of Barnes, Pietrus, Kelenna, and then filling out the rest of the roster with minimum deals.
Of course there could be trades here and there, but you can't go crystal ball on those and have to evaluate the GS salary situation on its surface. Damn, this is actually looking better for us than I thought (assuming the Spurs front office has their eyes on the same young two guard from GS that could come and start day 1 for us and give us as many minutes a night as we need from him that I do).
Nelson hates O'Bryant so I don't see him back.
Pietrus has opened his mouth so much about wanting to be traded that I think they let him go and keep Barnes instead. Especially if they keep Azubuike instead.
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