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you realize kobe hand is hurt right
This might sound like a bias Spurs fan assessment, but before you dismiss the claim. Look at it objectively , I've always believed that based on their strengths and skill sets (Manu's craftiness, ball handling, shooting) and Kobe's explosivness and athleticisim , Manu would age better. in their twilight of their careers in their mid 30's Manu's game is better suited to last.
If you watched Kobe's game lately, while he can still create, he has ended into primary a jump shooter. More than ever Kobe is now being asked to be a playmaker and get big's Gasol and Bynum involved, the problem is he really dosen't have the skill set for that, In contrast when you look at Manu's game it was built to get others involved, he is the ultimate crafty quarterback from the shooting guard spot. A lead guard in it's truest meaning. Argenitina's flex multiple screen offense and picks was built with Manu as the center piece. It's nothing new to him. It's not far fetch to agree that the Manu you see now at 34 is as good as the Manu in his late twenties. Although he might have lost some of his explosivness , which was really never the focal point of his game anyway, he has become more crafty and his outside shot has improved. While Bryant's game was always build around the athlete he is.
I know the rest of the NBA will consider this as blasphemy, but i really think there is some merit to it. let's see how this pan's out , if it not so evident this year , watch them play next year and this statement might not sound so silly after all. Seriously
you realize kobe hand is hurt right
if you ask Hollinger I believe he'll say Manu > Kobe the last 5 years
Quoting Hollinger as a source of basketball knowledge is sad and pathetic. He is an assclown and mutt of the highest order, check out his playoff predictions in the past for instance.
Manu > Kobe in 20never
C'mon bro. I love Manu to death. But he is not better than Kobe.
Hollinger is a numbers guy. He tells you what the stats indicate.
I wouldn't put Manu over Kobe except for the fact that Manu is a smarter player, more ready to pass and he not only trusts his teammates, he forces the issue by dishing them the ball in areas where they probably don't even trust themselves.
If I'm a name, I would rather play with Manu than Kobe, put it that way.
Kobe has better athleticism and is a better shooter and an underrated passer. Manu is a PG like passer (better than most PGs in the league actually) and is deceptively quick even when you've seen it before. He scores and defends through pure hustle and smarts, Kobe relies more on his physical abilities.
He does suck at predicting... about the same as you and your takes, tbh.
Kobe is playing pretty well this season, tbh. I expected him to suck a lot more. The Problem is he doesn't have a team as stacked as before and people think that because the Lakers are losing that Bryant is playing badly, which isn't the case. Just as when people thought he was the best player in the league just because his stacked team won championships.
It's been 2 games...
Breathe...
Mvp mvp
Mostly correct. The reason Kobe is a top 10 HOF(or very close to it) and Manu is someone who at best, a number 2 on a le team, is the difference in athleticism. Manu's skillset is actually very close, if not basically the same, as kobe's.
I think Kobe is as good a passer, just not as willing. I give him some slack in that because he played with some really horrible teams....it's not hard to "trust" your teammates when you're playing with Duncan, Parker, Horry, etc, as opposed to Kwame brown and luke en walton.
That being said, Kobe>>>Manu, this season, as well.
lol manu>dirk.
Crofl Good/BadOdor again trying to talk like if he knows something like he tried to do with football.
P/S: Manu is a hall of famer tbh, fwiw, iyi.
Its been Manu>Kobe for a while now, Manu lead the Spurs to 61 wins last year as the #1 option.
This is BS, tbh... Kobe has been a chucker (volume shooter) even when he had HoF guys scoring much easier and better than him (ie: Shaq in 03/04, Pau in 08/09).
Frankly, Kobe had a ty team around him pretty much only 2 seasons of his long ass career.
It's ok though, he's a stat-padder chasing records, nothing wrong with that.
Can't argue too much with that. He probably get's another ring with shaq if he plays as a second fiddle in those 2004 finals.This is BS, tbh... Kobe has been a chucker (volume shooter
Frankly, Kobe had a ty team around him pretty much only 2 seasons of his long ass career.
It's ok though, he's a stat-padder chasing records, nothing wrong with that.
I know you're not a GNSF, so I'll assume you're trolling when you say pau was "scoring better and easier" - that's what happens when you pair all star talent with top 10 HOF players - they get to take good shots because the D isn't focused on them.
Hollinger is part stock analyst, part (fake) psychic. Analysts look at things that have already happened, and then select the numbers that "explain" it in a particularly bizarre way. Psychics predict 10 outrageous things - then ignore the 9 that didn't come true, and tell everyone about the 1 that did.
The one thing they all understand is that people will forgive you for saying ridiculous , but they won't forgive you for being boring.
One thing for sure is that Manu is a much better defender than Kobe. Kobe is a terrible defender.
Kobe doesn't deserve his last few first team all defense, but he was at one point a shut down defender.
Manu has never been better than adequate.
The point is, good players recognize when they have a teammate with a more favorable matchup. Manu isn't just a good passer, he just won't force a shot when somebody else is open.
Kobe has no problem chucking 24 shots (and making 6).
I love Manu. But he misses too many games and doesn't play well consistently enough to proclaim Manu>Kobe.
He's currently a much better defender than Kobe. I'm not talking about the past.
Disagree with this. Kobe had all the tools to be a shut down defender, he just slacked. Manu has always been an above average defender. Not first team all defense-quality, but above average nonetheless.
Kobe+Pau won 2 rings, so Kobe taking a couple of shots more than he should have is allright in my book.
And that game 7 is one where you can't criticize kobe too much - he recognized that he was chocking and only took 4-5 shots in the fourth quarter. Great decision tbh.
This is definitely the other factor besides athleticism that favors Kobe. Health and stamina.
Well, you can look at a lot of games throughout that campaign. Fisher and Artest saved the bacon in more than one game. The point remains, however, Kobe isn't that good of a passer because he's got ty teammates. He just rather shoot. Which is ok.
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