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Avery screwed him up last year. If you noticed the times he was allowed to just run free, he was freaking awesome. But once avery took over, he just looked average. if he can run more freely, then he will do very well for us.
He looked done after the trade, and it seemed like he wasn't a very good fit for Dallas. Yet why does he enjoy such a lofty reputation with his peers still? Is this a case of his game being more FIBA compatible at this point, being surrounded by more talent so you can't funnel the ball to him to shoot, and not having a moron for a head coach?
http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/...ar-beyond.html
Here's D-Chair:"I can't explain it to you," forward LeBron James says. "I don't know what Jason does, I don't know how he does it. If I could explain it to you, I'd be like a prophet or something."
KB24 chimes in:"He sees things," guard Dwyane Wade says of Kidd's sixth sense. "When you're on the court and you see him do something, you think he had to see that like three minutes ago."
What am I missing here? He seemed quite average in Dallas this spring."He just sees the game differently," (Kobe) Bryant says. "He grew up being a passer, understanding the angles. He makes very quick reads, very quick decisions. It's a different role for me and makes the game easier. Some of the shots you get you tend to be uncomfortable with because they're so damn easy. You're used to having guys on your arm all the time. With Jason, you get wide-open looks. He puts the ball right on the money."
Avery screwed him up last year. If you noticed the times he was allowed to just run free, he was freaking awesome. But once avery took over, he just looked average. if he can run more freely, then he will do very well for us.
I didn't think Kidd was all that bad in his half-season with the Mavs. He was still passing the ball as well as he always has. His assists were down from earlier in the year but still right with his career average, and he was doing this with all jump shooters.
Defensively he lacked some lateral movement and got beat 1 on 1, but he also made a lot of steals and was the team's best help defender.
His one big problem was his lack of aggression when it came to shooting the ball. That, and ALWAYS STEPPING ON THE ING 3 POINT LINE. But it's tough to fault him for passing it too much when he's expecting Josh Howard to hit wide open jumpers. Unfortunately, as Josh informed the world, "you can't control wat da ball do man, yall craaazy!"
Considering the ty coach he had to endure, and the ty non-Dirk supporting cast, Kidd played pretty well.
Avery is a . You don't have a hall of fame pass first point guard walk the ball up for a half court set, letting the coach call the plays while he spots up on the weakside as a shooter. That's the equivalent of putting Nash at center and Shaq at the point.
The assist numbers for Kidd and Harris have basically reversed. Even though I give the Mav's a lot of grief for this trade (rightly so because Harris is quicker and can pass the ball on a dime too for the older slower Kidd with no outside shot). I expect Kidd to do better next year with Carlisle who can coach circles around Avery.
A lot of it has to do with the system. The Nets run more of an International style high post offense with lots of motion and cutters. They get out and run more. Avery ran slow set offenses pick and roll and called every play out there for Kidd styfiling the offense.
Hollinger doesn't have a lot of good things to say about this trade.
Kidd's numbers, meanwhile, are pedestrian: 9.0 points, 8.5 assists, 6.5 boards. Forget triple-doubles — Dallas would be happy with a single-double at this point. The fast-breaking element he was supposed to add to the Mavs has been nonexistent since the first half of Game 1, as Dallas's inability to stop the Hornets has killed any chance of getting an advantage in numbers going the other way.
Kidd's inability to contain Paul has been at the forefront, as the smaller, speedier Hornets repeatedly navigate around him and into the paint. The irony is that in order to acquire Kidd, Dallas gave up the exact type of player who defends Paul best — the quick, agile Harris.
http://www.nysun.com/sports/mavs-sun...-trades/75307/
Never good for a veteran point guard to come to a new team and have his balls taken away from a midget dictator of a head coach.
My favorite is when Avery would call for Kidd to take it to halfcourt, dump it to Dirk on the wing and then spot up in the corner for the 3.
Classic.
um, what? Kidd's best shot is the 3 pointer. and the 2 pointer with his foot on the line. He's a much better outside shooter than Harris. And as for Devin being able to pass the ball as well as Kidd, or anywhere close to as good......that's the kind of comment that tells me you don't know what the you're talking about.
Question: At this point in their careers, is Jason Kidd even a better PG than Steve Nash? Both can't play defense, both are amazing passers, only difference is Nash can still score at will while Kidd is becoming a liability on that end.
Kidd's career three pointers are atrocious. Did you even read the Hollinger Article. Plus Harris has bloomed in the Nets offense while Kidd has completely gone the other way.
Yeah maybe you didn't get the memo that the Mavs defense got BETTER after the Kidd trade.
LOL where do you pull like this? Harris has become a low percentage chucker in New Jersey. Check the stats.
damp got better with kid. nobody would have imagined that.
looks pretty good to me. 97% owned in fantasy basketball.
Devin Harris #34 PG
2007-08 STATS PPG/APG/SPG 14.8/5.8/1.4
2007-08 FANTASY STATS % OWNWK +/-AVG DRAFT 97.3%-1.6%99.3
Birth DateFebruary 27, 1983 Birth PlaceMilwaukee, WI Height6-3 Weight185 lbs. Age25 PositionPG CollegeWisconsin Drafted2004: 1st Rnd, 5th by WAS Salary2008: $3,995,003http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3822
try shooting percentage dumb . for a tony parker layup starter kit, his shooting is ATROCIOUS.
If the Mavs can't land an impact player through trades this summer, then their game plan is probably to go to war with what they have, and if they're doing well, make a move or get a veteran buyout in February.
Trading Josh for another swingman doesn't make sense, it's a lateral move and his value is low right now. He's got a reasonable contract and he's locked up for awhile. I only move Josh if it clearly makes the team better, and they probably aren't getting those kinds of offers for him.
Kidd absolutely can still defend the bigger, muscular guards, but he gets lit up by the Barbosas, Parkers and Pauls of the league. Kidd may not be a stopper type anymore, but he is still miles ahead of Nash when it comes to D. Nash's more consistent outside shooting is offset by Kidd's defense.
Kidd is a decent 3-point shooter, but his midrange game absolutely sucks, and he blows a lot of bunnies at the rim it seems.
for some people, maturing can be a simple flip of the switch. his current value is . maybe he'll recognize that. that possibility is all we have.
Kidd is no slouch but Harris is faster.
Here's the only stat that matters.
Playoffs
Kidd
2008 Playoffs Statistics
PPG 8.6 RPG6.40 APG6.8 EFF+ 16.80
Harris
2007-08 Statistics
PPG 14.8 RPG2.70 APG5.8 EFF+ 15.66
ahh so Hollinger's own formula states that Kidd had a better PER in the playoffs than Harris did in the entire season. And everyone agrees that Kidd was horrible in the playoffs. Therefore, you and Hollinger undoubtedly agree that Kidd > Harris
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Wonderful...you win! lol
He has better players around him on the national team.....AND other team's are not forcing him to shoot like they do in the NBA.
No one even bothers to guard him on the perimeter.....Jason Kidd is an incredible passer, but team's make him shoot, and he is a very bad shooter.
DD
Kidd is now what he pretty much always has been - a 10/10/4 sorta guy. He will never get you many points, he will normally get his dimes, he's a nice rebounder from the 1. He is an awful mid range shooter, a terrible defender, not a clutch shooter. He doesn't drive.
He is at his best when he has a bevy of 'above the rim' types: K Mart, Vince, Jeffs, etc. Dallas has no player anything like those guys. Dallas has no, "I'm going to throw down this ball and there isn't crap you can do about it" type of players. THAT is what Kidd needs. No matter how good dirk is or how well he can post up on occasion - he will ALWAYS be a perimeter player. Kidd will never thrive in Dallas until he gets a KMart/Vinsanity-type guy to dish to.
Additionally, Kidd gets the vast majority of his dimes ala Steve Nash - on breaks. Kidd runs a crap half-court offense.
I think Kidd has lots left, but he isn't going to show much in Dallas' current offense/roster.
Josh Howard is really the one guy who should've thrived with Kidd, the one guy who can run the break and finish at the rim. And he was off the reservation after the trade.
Gerald Green is a super athlete, but he is pretty raw and I don't know if it's going to be a good or bad thing if he gets minutes next year.
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