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You realize you are actually asking us to intelligently design life, don't you?
laugh at the idea of intelligent design? No intelligence huh? Well create life then. Create a living breathing human that can feel and reason. (without using anything living) I mean, no intelligence right? Shouldn't be too hard imo.
You realize you are actually asking us to intelligently design life, don't you?
Shouldn't be impossible. But nothing about that would make it easy. There's a lot that would have to go into that that people don't even begin to comprehend. In the end, skeptics would argue against such an artificial being like they do against the idea of robot intelligence. , look at Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep for an example of that.
Well yes, can non intelligence create life?
Maybe.
Who created the intelligence that created the intelligence that created life according to you?
its not necessarily that the idea of intelligent design is impossible, its just pretty baseless.
what about a theory that all life on earth was planted by aliens from a far away galaxy... i mean its plausible.
scientific theory is based on evidence and phenomena, intelligent design simply isn't. this is why scientists don't take it seriously. there's nothing to observe. there's nothing to investigate.
Yeah but wouldn't a robot only be proof of intelligence needing an intelligent creator?
But isn't the point of science to find the answers? Still, what we know is that anything with intelligence needs a creator? Did your computer create itself? Did random parts come together and create a sweet machine that allows you to communicate with people all over the world?
God has no beginning or end.
My computer doesn't' have intelligence.
Are you saying yours does?
By the way a bit OT but didn't Sagan or Dawkins believe that life was planted here by some sort of intelligent being? Can't really remember.
Says who?
Why can't your God have been created by another God?
Maybe not. But the computer was just an example. Maybe a bad one. But you and I both have intelligence. Why can't scientist create a human using non living things? I mean scientist claim that life has no intelligence behind it so it shouldn't be too hard.
That's what Chump was saying in the second post. I agree with your basic line of reasoning, but only to a point. Showing that man can create life would not disprove that god did so. But it also doesn't necessitate the existences of a creator. There have been simulations to demonstrate how complex organs could have been developed randomly over time, like vertebrate eyes and whatnot. But obviously, people can't disprove the claim that universe has intelligent origins by replicating it. It's a pointless line of debate anyway, since you should never really prove a negative.
Because that isn't what the Bible says. Again, this is only what I believe.
You are asking scientists to intelligently design life. You are actually making an argument against intelligent design.
How so? Aren't scientist intelligent beings?
You are free to believe whatever you like, but it simply isnt' the basis of a logical argument. Every religion thread ends up like this. "That's just what I believe."
Great.
But it proves nothing.
By the way there really is no point to my topic and I don't think intelligent design has to necessarily do with God. I just though it was an interesting topic.
the point of science is certainly not to blindly guess the answers. it is to determine the answers.
be careful with that statement, because you know the question that will surely followStill, what we know is that anything with intelligence needs a creator?
i can start fires. but not every fire is started artificially. it has already been demonstrated that complex organic compounds, and more complex amino can arise naturally. the urey miller experiment produced over 20 amino acids in what was roughly a 50 year time span.Did your computer create itself? Did random parts come together and create a sweet machine that allows you to communicate with people all over the world?
You are saying they can't make life out of non-living material.
Except computers, which you say they have already done.
You have now put yourself firmly on both sides of this argument. I expect you to make a good case for both.
well, it actually has a lot to do with god. if one accepts the premise of intelligent design, where everything created needs a creator, you end up at the question of what created the creator... and then what created THAT creator. its an endless loop unless you have a god. so intelligent design implies a god
Actually your topic is not only legit, but it will be a topic many will read later on when mankind already knows the answer to life others who dig up these old ass topics will ROFL
Have I? My question is simple and still hasn't been answered. If there is no intelligence behind life then why aren't scientist creating humans out of non life? According to evolution non life gave "birth" to life eventually leading to humans. Humans who are intelligent.
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