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    http://abcnews.go.com/thisweek

    Stephanopolis really owned her in this interview.

    Asked at least a half dozen times why she wont allow a vote on drilling and stuttered through her non answer.

    Then asked, "well, how about a vote on drilling as part of a comprehensive bill that included all the other alternative energy programs that she said both Republicans and Democrats favored. More stuttering, confusion, and avoidance.

    They showed her when elected speaker showing her say she'd make sure Congress voted on what the people want them to vote on, then asked 'America wants you to vote to allow drilling, why won't you do it?'

    This is your Congressional leader, Democrats

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    Maybe because this unanimous citizen approval of offshore drilling only exists in the neocon area of the brain of you and your ilk?


    So ing lame how repubs freak when the democrats are in power and choose to chode bload the rest of congress (to prevent big oil from drilling and making money basically) viewing it as heresy, so banal, so wrong, not worthy of a congressperson.

    But meanwhile the republicans have power and get props for taking away liberties, handing more power to business and special interest groups, etc.

    It's called a balance of power....the repubs could have done this long ago and now its so important, but its all just a political ploy 101 to show how democrats don't want to lower the price of oil....with the added benefit of hooking up american oil companies....they have land they don't even take advantage of right now, so if we need more supply on american side, why don't we exploit that?

    Yes that's the speaker, yes she's bumbling and stumbling, but big ing deal...
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    Maybe because this unanimous citizen approval of offshore drilling only exists in the neocon area of the brain of you and your ilk?
    You mean like unilaterily invading our own shores and liberating our oil supply, is like another neocon conspiracy.

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    You mean like unilaterily invading our own shores and liberating our oil supply, is like another neocon conspiracy.
    There would be a consensus on this if there weren't alot of experts claiming this would not lower oil prices for the american people for .

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    Maybe because this unanimous citizen approval of offshore drilling only exists in the neocon area of the brain of you and your ilk?
    70% of Americans are in support of opening up the continental shelf and Alaska to drilling. Are you telling me that 70% is all conservatives? Come on, that's a juvenile response I suspect from liberal sycophants like boutons.

    I'm not a neocon, I think most of them are idiots. I'm a fiscal conservative. There isn't one magic bullet to our energy crisis, but opening these areas up to drilling is part of an interim solution until new alternative energies can be realized in the economies of scale needed to make an impact on our nation's energy dependencies.


    It's called a balance of power....the repubs could have done this long ago and now its so important, but its all just a political ploy 101 to show how democrats don't want to lower the price of oil....with the added benefit of hooking up american oil companies....they have land they don't even take advantage of right now.
    Give me a ing break. Oil was $2 a gallon with Republicans in power. That's a little different than $4/gallon...

    It's a political ploy? This all came out of Pelosi's mouth, it's her own doing. George even said 'if the Republicans sign off on the rest of your energy package, will you allow drilling as a part of that package.' And she said no.

    And you clearly didn't watch the video, because George even quoted Democratic Congressman as saying a vote would happen before the general election.

    Or are you trying to tell me the Demos in Congress that want to open up drilling are all puppets of the great 'neocons'?

    Disappointing post from you today.

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    No I think the demos want to do whatever crazy stuff they want to do and just because it does not fall in line with what repubs want to do, its making you all mad and fussy.

    I could give a if 70% of americans want all that to happen, thats still not all of us, and its still a known fact that drilling in anwr and offshore won't help our problems. Again, if its a problem of domestic supply, why not drill on the land they already have but aren't drilling on?

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    Ha, at least she does't have Bush's appr....

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    I guess I can't use that one

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    http://abcnews.go.com/thisweek

    Stephanopolis really owned her in this interview.

    Asked at least a half dozen times why she wont allow a vote on drilling and stuttered through her non answer.

    Then asked, "well, how about a vote on drilling as part of a comprehensive bill that included all the other alternative energy programs that she said both Republicans and Democrats favored. More stuttering, confusion, and avoidance.

    They showed her when elected speaker showing her say she'd make sure Congress voted on what the people want them to vote on, then asked 'America wants you to vote to allow drilling, why won't you do it?'

    This is your Congressional leader, Democrats
    If this country would be run by opinion polls and 'what people want', Bush wouldn't be our president for a while now, and we wouldn't be at war in Iraq or Afghanistan. But that's not how democracy works.

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    Again, if its a problem of domestic supply, why not drill on the land they already have but aren't drilling on?
    It's not that hard of a concept. If you want a hamburger, you don't buy new cows and set them up on the pasture when you look over the fence and see a Whataburger sitting right there.


    Pelsoi probably just dumped too much money into alternative future energy sources and wants to make sure she will get her return on investments before she croaks.

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    No I think the demos want to do whatever crazy stuff they want to do and just because it does not fall in line with what repubs want to do, its making you all mad and fussy.

    I could give a if 70% of americans want all that to happen, thats still not all of us, and its still a known fact that drilling in anwr and offshore won't help our problems. Again, if its a problem of domestic supply, why not drill on the land they already have but aren't drilling on?
    I've got an email from a buddy in the oil business on the leases they already have permitted, I'll have to do some digging to find it but he broke down what's really going on with the leases and the feds.

    And I'm sorry, but Bush just even dropping the idea of allowing drilling offshore knocked off $10 for the price of oil futures in ONE DAY. It's comical that Pelosi sits there and says this won't make a difference. The prices you hear about oil being each day are from the *futures* market, and changes in the expected future availability of oil are priced in.

    It's comical she says she wants to end our dependence on foreign oil, but won't let our oil companies drill domestically so they wouldn't have to buy all the oil from Middle East. Stupid .

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    If this country would be run by opinion polls and 'what people want', Bush wouldn't be our president for a while now, and we wouldn't be at war in Iraq or Afghanistan. But that's not how democracy works.
    Coulda fooled Obama, too....

    Damn y'all are pathetic. Pelosi was all about how Bush and Co. weren't doing what Americans wanted, how America had spoken back in 2006. Now it's 'well, Pelosi shouldn't be doing what Americans want, that's not how it works.'

    Y'all libs are funny.

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    Give me a ing break. Oil was $2 a gallon with Republicans in power. That's a little different than $4/gallon...
    Gas was $1.06/gallon when Clinton took office in 1993 (LINK)

    CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION

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    Coulda fooled Obama, too....

    Damn y'all are pathetic. Pelosi was all about how Bush and Co. weren't doing what Americans wanted, how America had spoken back in 2006. Now it's 'well, Pelosi shouldn't be doing what Americans want, that's not how it works.'

    Y'all libs are funny.
    I don't like Pelosi any more than you do. And maybe you can consider me a liberal. I don't know. I'm not American and I can't vote.
    That said, people rarely, if ever, get what they want from their politicians. That has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. It happens on both sides of the spectrum.

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    I don't like Pelosi any more than you do. And maybe you can consider me a liberal. I don't know. I'm not American and I can't vote.
    That said, people rarely, if ever, get what they want from their politicians. That has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. It happens on both sides of the spectrum.
    Which brings one to question, what happens when 25% of the population supports the other 75%...and that 75% are the ones being catered too while the 25% continue to be mistreated?

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    Republicans drill for oil, Democrats build a ing engine that does not need it. Problem solved.

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    Oil is scarce and we use too much of it.

    It will be expensive and will get even more expensive in the future.

    We will all have to deal with it.

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    Which brings one to question, what happens when 25% of the population supports the other 75%...and that 75% are the ones being catered too while the 25% continue to be mistreated?
    The same that has happened before: A 5% of that 25% will be catered to no matter what because they have enough money to make sure they do. Some of the ones in the 75% will take advantage of the opportunity and move to the 20% section, while some of the 20% section will move to the 75% section.
    If it's a relatively good government you will see the 20% part grow to 30% (albeit they'll have less money overall), while the 75% will be reduced to 65%.
    With a bad government the 20% will be reduced or stay the same, and then the government will be kicked out after 4 years.
    Democracy works well just as long as there's a rotation of ideologies going. I don't think it would work as well if you would have 20+ years of the same type of government going on.
    Again, nothing here that we haven't experienced before.

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    Gas was $1.06/gallon when Clinton took office in 1993 (LINK)

    CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION
    So why is it you, other libs, and Demos blame our gas prices on big oil? Correlation does not imply causation.

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    Which brings one to question, what happens when 25% of the population supports the other 75%...and that 75% are the ones being catered too while the 25% continue to be mistreated?
    The 25% say it and move somewhere else in the world where they are allowed to keep the fruits of their labor.

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    Oil is scarce and we use too much of it.

    It will be expensive and will get even more expensive in the future.

    We will all have to deal with it.
    Agreed. Democraps can't see past our borders though, they seem all too happy to overlook the population boom in Asia and pretend those people don't need gasoline for their vehicles.

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    70% of America was US out of Iraq, and the same is true of Iraqis. Will dubya and his puppet Maliki comply?

    As the article I posted today pointed out, the oilcos are drilling for natural gas now and in immediate future, winter is coming, NOT for oil. They're rolling in dough and spending it buy back their own stock.

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    So why is it you, other libs, and Demos blame our gas prices on big oil? Correlation does not imply causation.
    Actually, there's a cause for record profits. It's when a company charges more for something they get for the same price or cheaper. In very basics economics:

    Profits = Earnings - Expenses.

    In order to increase profits you need to increase earnings or reduce expenses (or do both). Considering there has not been any breakthrough in oil extraction technology that doubled the amount of production for the same cost, one has to consider that what doubled are the earnings, by having the common citizen pay twice as much for the oil byproduct.

    As incredible as it might seem, that formula works just the same regardless of the political party in power.

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    There would be a consensus on this if there weren't alot of experts claiming this would not lower oil prices for the american people for .
    i pray that you believe in global warming.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0FcNNeuf0E

    ENJOY YOUR VACATION, JACKASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    As the article I posted today pointed out, the oilcos are drilling for natural gas now and in immediate future, winter is coming, NOT for oil. They're rolling in dough and spending it buy back their own stock.
    We get it. Private enterprise is evil. Private initiative is what screws everything up.

    Go to Venezuela and buy yourself a plot of land there, already.

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